vvvslaxman Posted August 2, 2014 Posted August 2, 2014 Without video evidence it is hard to one way or the other. I think Jadejas charge was not level 3 so may be a different verdict. In a Level 3 probably they look more for proof. India should stop focussing on this and try to win a match now that verdict is out.
express bowling Posted August 2, 2014 Posted August 2, 2014 So if Anderson is not guilty due to lack of video evidence, how had the match referee indicted Jadeja before this verdict despite no video footage? In that case also it was one team's word against another. So, in that case the referee believed the England team's word? And people think there is no racial bias in these kind of decisions :facepalm: Spot on. The racism in ICC continues.
Texan Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 An abusive England pacer James Anderson had threatened to walk into the Indian dressing room and break all-rounder Ravindra Jadeja’s teeth during the incident that happened in the corridor approaching the dressing room at Trent Bridge last month. This has emerged from the hearing of the incident on Friday, where judicial commissioner Gordon Lewis found Anderson and Jadeja not guilty of breaching the ICC code of conduct. During the hearing, Anderson confessed to pushing and abusing Jadeja but insisted that the physical contact was an instinctive reaction, a move in self-defence as the Indian all-rounder had moved aggressively towards him. The Indians who testified at the hearing said Jadeja did not react at all to the string of abuses that Anderson directed at him towards the end of the second session during the first Test. Going by the cross-examination and witness statements, it is learnt that the following sequence of events unfolded at Trent Bridge. It started with Anderson repeated calling Jadeja “f***ing c**t, f***ing p**k†as the players left the field for lunch on day 2 of the first Test. Once in the corridor before the dressing room, things came to a boil. When Jadeja turned towards Anderson, he pushed him and said, “Go to your f***ing dressing room. I’ll come there and break your f***ing teeth.†By then, Indian skipper M S Dhoni intervened and dared Anderson to do that, if he was ready to face the consequences. It has also come to light that one of the field umpires said at the hearing that he had intervened when Anderson had started abusing Jadeja on the field. The umpire had asked the England pacer “not to utter any other wordâ€. Meanwhile, coach Duncan Fletcher said at the hearing that the ECB, through their officials, had tried to cut a deal with him. They wanted India to bring down the charges from Level 3 to 2. It is also understood that the conflicting statements by the witnesses from either sides, combined with the lack of visual evidence — there was no camera in the corridor where the incident took place — was the reason behind Anderson being let off the hook and the judicial commissioner squashing the Level 3 charges. The written verdict will be out within 24 hours. The Indian board can’t appeal this decision. According to the norms, it is only the ICC’s chief executive who can ask for a fresh review of a dispute for which the verdict has been given by a judicial commissioner. http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/anderson-told-jadeja-ill-come-and-break-your-fing-teeth/
Texan Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 So none of the above counts as "violating the spirit of the game"?
IndianRenegade Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 So none of the above counts as "violating the spirit of the game"? Looks serious especially Go to your f***ing dressing room. I’ll come there and break your f***ing teeth. Looking like a assault, considering Jaddu was also pushed..
SLICKR392 Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Without video evidence it is hard to one way or the other. I think Jadejas charge was not level 3 so may be a different verdict. In a Level 3 probably they look more for proof. India should stop focussing on this and try to win a match now that verdict is out. Anderson has admitted of pushing Jadeja. Has been termed self defence. Exactly from what? He's clearly breached the Level 3 offence with that assault. Anderson claims it to be self defence without any solid evidence and at the same time admits of assaulting Jadeja.
achilles Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 THis has got to the most absurd decision in the history of modern cricket.
achilles Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/anderson-told-jadeja-ill-come-and-break-your-fing-teeth/ My GOd. THis is incredible ****-sucking on the part of the ECB to get away with this.
vvvslaxman Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Anderson has admitted of pushing Jadeja. Has been termed self defence. Exactly from what? He's clearly breached the Level 3 offence with that assault. Anderson claims it to be self defence without any solid evidence and at the same time admits of assaulting Jadeja. May be he retracte.what he said .it is basically words right.
asterix Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 English news papers are laying on M$D and the humiliation meted out to Team India... I always felt that Dhoni went too far in defending Jaddu, just to ensure that Jaddu plays all the 5 matches... Players like Andu needs to be tackled in a different way, on the field but a"Nobel Peace Prize" aspirant Dhoni will never allow thin, on field...
vvvslaxman Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 India just has to sledge back instead of waiting for inquiry. But I have heard lot more worse things being said on the field. Physical contact is a no no. Everything else will not hold much water.
vvvslaxman Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 English news papers are laying on M and the humiliation meted out to Team India... If it comes to one word against other this is what happens. Remember bhajji incident monkey became maa ki. It is easy to get away on a technicality.
Crookbond Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 May be he retracte.what he said .it is basically words right. He didn't retract.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Srini is just an ECB puppet.Each day he becomes more pathetic as the BCCI all in all.
IndianRenegade Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 May be he retracte.what he said .it is basically words right. The problem is he had basically accepted these things in the court, and to later retract what you said in court doesn't make a lot of sense. Also I don't think he retracted these things.
express bowling Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 So, basically, Anderson has agreed to pushing Jadeja and threatening him of further physical injury. How can he go scott free after that !! The dispute is regarding whether Jadeja retaliated to the verbal abuse or not. The word of one guy again another. So, it can't be proved. The only sure thing, that Anderson pushed and physically threatened Jadeja, is not being punished. STRANGE !!!!
special K Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Just proof once again that ECB is the true ruler of cricket.
brendan07 Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Not a lot in in, would have been happy with a 50% fine for both, but it really is a minor incident. I'm more old school and honestly these blokes are 30 years old, sort it out over a drink after the game!
vvvslaxman Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 He didn't retract. Looks like he denied i "Importantly Anderson denies pushing Jadeja in the back or in any way provoking him after entering the corridor. Obviously one version of the facts must be untrue, but the existing CCTV image is unhelpful and the witnesses hopelessly biased in favour of one party or the other."
Crookbond Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Looks like he denied i "Importantly Anderson denies pushing Jadeja in the back or in any way provoking him after entering the corridor. Obviously one version of the facts must be untrue, but the existing CCTV image is unhelpful and the witnesses hopelessly biased in favour of one party or the other." No, this is from Gordon Lewis - the judicial commissioner. http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/766609.html According to Anderson, Jadeja's action in walking back to stop in front of him caused Jadeja to block Anderson's way and the way of his team mates who were coming behind him. Anderson said he then used his right arm to push Jadeja's shoulder to get him to turn around and go back towards the Indian dressing room. He agrees he said words along the lines, 'F*** off and get in your dressing room'.
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