Laaloo Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 More than twice as many british muslims are fighting for ISIS as in UK armed forces... UK should deport the families of all of these bastards and revoke their visas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir john Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 wth where syria nd iraq heading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 UK should deport the families of all of these bastards and revoke their visas. If they do that the padosi forum will not run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 US has to be more aggressive now in wiping off these scums. They should take Assad's offer of help in fighting ISIS. I know Assad is no angel either and strategically that would be bad for US and western forces, but first need should be to kill these ISIS terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Admire one thing about US/UK etc . Their no bargaining with terrorist policy no matter what. Imagine if these were Indians being held hostage and killed , the families would be up in arm and government would have been in danger of falling if they had not agreed to the demands. Kandhar comes to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Admire one thing about US/UK etc . Their no bargaining with terrorist policy no matter what. Imagine if these were Indians being held hostage and killed ' date=' the families would be up in arm and government would have been in danger of falling if they had not agreed to the demands. Kandhar comes to mind[/quote'] Can we compare Kandahar to beheading of two journalists ? Kandahar had lot of civilians. They have a no negotiation with terrorists I understand that part would like to to see how they respond when their is high profile person or large no of people involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Can we compare Kandahar to beheading to journalists ? Kandahar had lot of civilians. They have a no negotiation with terrorists I understand that part would like to to see how they respond when their is high profile person or large no of people involved. Russia etc have shown this. They even storm places were kids were hostage with lots of kids dying. And pretty sure even with a large group they will behave the same way, they are very clear about this. This is also the reason US citizens usually don't get taken hostage very often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Admire one thing about US/UK etc . Their no bargaining with terrorist policy no matter what. Imagine if these were Indians being held hostage and killed ' date=' the families would be up in arm and government would have been in danger of falling if they had not agreed to the demands. Kandhar comes to mind[/quote'] Not always true. US too does negotiations if need be. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/us/bowe-bergdahl-american-soldier-is-freed-by-taliban.html?referrer= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Russia etc have shown this. They even storm places were kids were hostage with lots of kids dying. And pretty sure even with a large group they will behave the same way' date=' they are very clear about this. This is also the reason US citizens usually don't get taken hostage very often[/quote'] If Kandahar had happened in India it would have been different. If we had to storm Kandahar Pakistan should be India's ally to use the airspace. There was never a possibility for Kandahar for storming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rising Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 US has to be more aggressive now in wiping off these scums. They should take Assad's offer of help in fighting ISIS. I know Assad is no angel either and strategically that would be bad for US and western forces' date=' but first need should be to kill these ISIS terrorists.[/quote'] The problem is it was the USA which were supporting ISIS which was unknown organization as the time to get ride of Assad by providing them ammunition and support now it might suddenly difficult to join hands with Assad I am sure Assad will ask for something which benefits which US might be unwilling when they only helped ISIS with purpose of destroying Assad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 A prominent writer has used a word to describe the mental/emotional state of an average muslim pertaining to his/her islamiyat and that of the qoum as a whole: Phantasmagoria. Reasons for this confounding state: Since a "true" Islamic state ceased to exist after Rashidun (first 4 caliphs), muslims are in a state of incertitude of what it'll take to achieve this utopia and how they will sustain it. Consequence of that is that the greenest of the lot (i.e. jihadis) always feel the need to be more green and propagate their greenness on the less green and non green. While the less green(i.e. moderate or anything left of the greenest) are perpetually caught in a bind and the only way to escape is to expound on the finer of points of their philosophy and a utopia, which if it ever existed, existed for a very brief time. Important thing to note here is that both camps wish to arrive at the same objective. Difference is simply the approach: First group wants to use a cleaver - characteristic of most despotic leaderships. While the latter group engages in an intellectual circle jerk (if you can call writing hosannas to such mediocre piece of philosophy intellectual) to gradually move the quom to "good times". Some people will see similarities (and much has been written about it) in this second, "moderate" faction of Islam with many pre-socialist/communist societies. Which is further supported by the fact that many of the Muslim countries, before the Saudi/Wahhabi oil money started pouring in, were hotbeds of socialists revolutions. And that is why you see all the left idiots all over the democratic world having a soft spot for Islam in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 If Kandahar had happened in India it would have been different. If we had to storm Kandahar Pakistan should be India's ally to use the airspace. There was never a possibility for Kandahar for storming in. Kandhar is in Afghanistan, not Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 If Kandahar had happened in India it would have been different. If we had to storm Kandahar Pakistan should be India's ally to use the airspace. There was never a possibility for Kandahar for storming in. US might not have stormed in, but they would never have released the prisoners either. They are very clear about this as they know any such thing will come back to bite them big time. Lots of US citizens would have been kidnapped. Also, the release of the prisoners led to killing of Daniel Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Kandhar is in Afghanistan' date=' not Pakistan.[/quote'] I know sir but for India to storm India have to use Pakistan's airspace. Historically it was called ghandari which was kauravas mothers teritory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotating Potato Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 If Kandahar had happened in India it would have been different. If we had to storm Kandahar Pakistan should be India's ally to use the airspace. There was never a possibility for Kandahar for storming in. Entebbe airport storming comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I know sir but for India to storm India have to use Pakistan's airspace. Historically it was called ghandari which was kauravas mothers teritory. India could have got there using a route through some of the former Soviet republics like Uzbekistan or Tajikistan, but chances of success in such an operation are very low. Could have resulted in a lot of casualties, both civilian and military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBee Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Al Qaeda looking to attack India after the sudden rise of ISIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 India could have got there using a route through some of the former Soviet republics like Uzbekistan or Tajikistan' date=' but chances of success in such an operation are very low. Could have resulted in a lot of casualties, both civilian and military.[/quote'] But the last time I read the runway in Tajikistan was not operational which was closer to the border of pak/afg. Dont know about uzebkistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Entebbe airport storming comes to mind. Interesting read and also US it seems modeled delta forces based on Israeli IDF after this operation. Israeli is Such small country but much advacned than many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Al Qaeda looking to attack India after the sudden rise of ISIS Probably looking for a soft target with no fear of retribution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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