India-KXIP fan Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Very clever to keep average above 58 and not reduce it. Very clever in his CV for GOAT. :clap: :finger:
Laaloo Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 I suppose SRT is #2 eh? SRT is 1 bradman is 2
sweetaskandy Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 SRT is 1 bradman is 2 How can you possibly defend that stance? At minimum, Bradman, Sobers, Greg Chappell were superior players. In the modern age, Lara, Ponting and Sangakkara are/were superior players.
sweetaskandy Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Very clever to keep average above 58 and not reduce it. Very clever in his CV for GOAT. :clap: :finger: If you exclude his time as wkt, he averages almost 70 over 80 tests. This destroys all rivals except Bradman.
sweetaskandy Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 without bangladesh and zimbabwe, he averages almost 54. when not keeping - against other major sides, his average is 62.30. This surpasses all modern rivals by far. He is another level.
SLICKR392 Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 ^ Hmmm. OK- So what's his avg. average overseas and out of those 30 something tons, how many scored there?
sweetaskandy Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 as not wkt, exc Bang and Zim: He averages 55.95 away from home. 8 tons in 25 games. At all levels his record stands up.
kaptaan Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 How can you possibly defend that stance? At minimum, Bradman, Sobers, Greg Chappell were superior players. In the modern age, Lara, Ponting and Sangakkara are/were superior players. Don't put lara and sanga in same bracket. Lara debuted in 1990, ponting in 95 and sanga in 2000. The quality of bowlers they faced is different. younis khan (who debuted in 2000) vs sanga vs sehwag (who debuted in 2001) would be a fair comparision :hmmm:
kaptaan Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 All the three players i mentioned have similar record away from home (excluding ban and zim) Sehwag Mat - 43 Inn - 82 Notouts -1 Runs 3652 HS - 309 avg - 45.08 SR - 80.28 100s -10 50s - 11 Younis Khan Mat - 45 Inn - 82 Notouts -1 Runs 3450 HS - 269 avg - 45.39 SR - 52.33 100s -9 50s - 14 Sanga Mat - 43 Inn - 81 Notouts -5 Runs 3609 HS - 309 avg - 47.48 SR - 50.92 100s -10 50s - 19
Lord Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 All the three players i mentioned have similar record away from home (excluding ban and zim) Sehwag Mat - 43 Inn - 82 Notouts -1 Runs 3652 HS - 309 avg - 45.08 SR - 80.28 100s -10 50s - 11 Younis Khan Mat - 45 Inn - 82 Notouts -1 Runs 3450 HS - 269 avg - 45.39 SR - 52.33 100s -9 50s - 14 Sanga Mat - 43 Inn - 81 Notouts -5 Runs 3609 HS - 309 avg - 47.48 SR - 50.92 100s -10 50s - 19 Viru wins due to SR:hatsoff:
aceofbase Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 sachins average in SA,AUS,ENG and NZ is 51.30 and he played more matches there...Sangas average there is nowhere near...Please dont insult Sachin by comparing to Sanga.
vijay50 Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 All the three players i mentioned have similar record away from home (excluding ban and zim) Sehwag Mat - 43 Inn - 82 Notouts -1 Runs 3652 HS - 309 avg - 45.08 SR - 80.28 100s -10 50s - 11 Younis Khan Mat - 45 Inn - 82 Notouts -1 Runs 3450 HS - 269 avg - 45.39 SR - 52.33 100s -9 50s - 14 Sanga Mat - 43 Inn - 81 Notouts -5 Runs 3609 HS - 309 avg - 47.48 SR - 50.92 100s -10 50s - 19 This exposes Sanga clearly. But the blind SLs always think Sanga as next Bradman based on overall average. Quite laughable.
sweetaskandy Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Sanga's away record exc B and Z is as I posted. When he is not keeping - and away from home - he averages 62.3 You are including his time as wkt in your stats. Do you think keeping does not tire a man and reduce his effectiveness with the bat? When NOT keeping and away from home v other big sides - he ave 62. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/50710.html?class=1;filter=advanced;keeper=0;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=6;opposition=7;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting That is a level ahead of Sachin. Accept it.
aceofbase Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Sanga's away record exc B and Z is as I posted. When he is not keeping - and away from home - he averages 62.3 You are including his time as wkt in your stats. Do you think keeping does not tire a man and reduce his effectiveness with the bat? When NOT keeping and away from home v other big sides - he ave 62. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/50710.html?class=1;filter=advanced;keeper=0;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=6;opposition=7;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting That is a level ahead of Sachin. Accept it. ONLY SRILANKANS BELIEVE IT....FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD,, SANGA IS JUST ANOTHER CRICKETER FROM SL....
kaptaan Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Sanga's away record exc B and Z is as I posted. When he is not keeping - and away from home - he averages 62.3 You are including his time as wkt in your stats. Do you think keeping does not tire a man and reduce his effectiveness with the bat? When NOT keeping and away from home v other big sides - he ave 62. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/50710.html?class=1;filter=advanced;keeper=0;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=6;opposition=7;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting That is a level ahead of Sachin. Accept it. AB averages more as a wk-batsman than as a pure batsman http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/44936.html?class=1;filter=advanced;keeper=1;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting lame excuses
BeautifulGame Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 The problem with Sanga away record without wk is that the sample size is way to small to compare with ATG players Kohli has already played same no of away tests in AUS end nzl SA and WI as Sanga w/o wk .Sachin or. Lara have played 20 tests in Aus alone whereas Sanga has 30 tests away from home his entire career (w/o wk).That's way too sample size So no one will seriously consider him among the levels of ATG like Sachin Lara or waugh regardless of his average and stats .This not even delving into the quality of attacks faced which will make it even worse
aceofbase Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Sachin was compared with the best always...to Inzamam during his early days...then with Lara and Mark Waugh during the middle part and finally with Ricky ponting in his final years of his career. he was never compared with sanga even once by any of the cricket experts..All these batsmen were known to destroy bowling attacks...sanga never had that ability...he himself accepted that...The only batsman that can be compared with sanga is chanderpaul...Both of them were grafters...I think srilankans have an inferiority complex ...that is why they bring up such comparisions....
BeautifulGame Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Chanderpaul far more than a mere grafter When chanders gets going he can demolish attacks .That 62 ball century in Guyana was as good as any attack Lara has destroyed . Sanga never had that sort of ability imo
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