Special cell setup in RAW to foil China-Pakistan Economic Corridor

[Sachin=GOD]

Special cell setup in RAW to foil China-Pakistan Economic Corridor http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-37418-Special-cell-set-up-in-RAW-to-foil-Economic-Corridor Pakistanis and their paranoia

[Invasion 550]

Special cell setup in RAW to foil China-Pakistan Economic Corridor http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-37418-Special-cell-set-up-in-RAW-to-foil-Economic-Corridor Pakistanis and their paranoia

Sachin bhai, the news is a very reputable source btw. So.

[sandeep]

creation of bangladesh by RAW. yeah, it wasn't the exploitation and treatment of bengalis as 2nd class citizens, and responding to their election win with martial law that created Bangladesh. It was the "Indians" and their spies. yep very reputable. Until Pakistanis stop lying to themselves and their children, its not possible to have 'peace in our time'.

[Gollum]

creation of bangladesh by RAW. yeah, it wasn't the exploitation and treatment of bengalis as 2nd class citizens, and responding to their election win with martial law that created Bangladesh. It was the "Indians" and their spies. yep very reputable. Until Pakistanis stop lying to themselves and their children, its not possible to have 'peace in our time'.

+1 The Bangladesh fiasco was entirely Pakistan's fault. They treated them as 3rd grade citizens(especially the minority Hindus and Muslim secularists), exploited them economically(used them as a dumping ground for finished goods after buying raw materials from them just like the European colonialists did to SC, even not being of any help during floods in East Pakistan) and denied Bangabandhu the PM post without acknowledging the election results

[Shivaji bhonsle]

Good if its true. We don't have to be defensive in such things when Pakistan is accommodating people like hafeez, lakhvi and dawood. Yes, we are supporting Baluchistan, yes we are supporting Taliban who wants to hurt Pakistan and I am glad we are doing it. Remember, Musharraf who openly admitted that they support Kashmiri miltants and used US money to buy weapons that can be used against India? When they have such people, there is no shame in accepting and hitting Pakistan where it hurts the most..let em suffer. I don't care..

[Invasion 550]

+1 The Bangladesh fiasco was entirely Pakistan's fault. They treated them as 3rd grade citizens(especially the minority Hindus and Muslim secularists)' date=' exploited them economically(used them as a dumping ground for finished goods after buying raw materials from them just like the European colonialists did to SC, even not being of any help during floods in East Pakistan) and denied Bangabandhu the PM post without acknowledging the election results[/quote'] It wasnt exactly entirely Pakistan's fault. But yes majority it was. Indian intervention was the final strike in the coffin.

[Gollum]

It wasnt exactly entirely Pakistan's fault. But yes majority it was. Indian intervention was the final strike in the coffin.

Firstly I respect you as a poster, this post is just to gain a perspective on the 1971 Bangladesh liberation war from across the border. You are free to answer/avoid my questions depending on how you feel about it. As you said Indian intervention just hastened the process, no smoke without fire. Of course there were geographical difficulties(2 provinces separated by an enemy nation is a formidable task). My view :But had the Pakistani generals/politicians not shoved Urdu down the throats of the Bengalis(believe me from personal experience Bengalis are very protective/passionate when it comes to their mother tongue !!!); had they been more sympathetic to the frequently flood ravaged Eastern province; had Bhutto allowed Mujibur to become PM whose party won the elections fair and square; had they not oppressed Bengali Hindus(again the thread of Bengali language unites majority Muslims and Hindus, Bengali Muslims are closer to Hindus in terms of culture than Muslim Biharis and are amongst the most secular population), had they set up more industries and not used that province as a dumping ground for finished goods, history may have been different. I read about many brave Bengalis who died fighting for Pakistan in the 1965 war,1967 six day war, so the condescending attitude was a bit shocking to understand. When you say "It wasn't entirely Pakistan's fault" what do you mean? Do you know the scale of atrocities during those 2-3 years committed on the Bengali population by the Pakistani army, heard of Tikka Khan? Do you think the Army looked down upon the Bengali Muslims whose culture had borrowed heavily from many local Hindu customs and hence was against their perceived idea of Islam? Till date Pakistan hasn't apologized for the genocide, don't you think the Bengalis deserve at least an apology from the Pakistani state? How is that part of history covered in Pakistani textbooks/literature? Are majority Pakistanis in denial about it(like say for instance calling it RAW backed operation, KGB operation,Cold War side effect etc) or are they willing to look at things objectively? Has the younger generation forgotten about it or do they long for he old days of united Pakistan? I think it will be tough for anyone because losing part of your country is never easy to accept for any sovereign state. In your opinion did the division strike a death knell to Jinnah's 2 nation theory because afterall Urdu/Punjabi speaking Muslims and Bengali Muslims couldn't get along?

[Invasion 550]

Firstly I respect you as a poster, this post is just to gain a perspective on the 1971 Bangladesh liberation war from across the border. You are free to answer/avoid my questions depending on how you feel about it. As you said Indian intervention just hastened the process, no smoke without fire. Of course there were geographical difficulties(2 provinces separated by an enemy nation is a formidable task). My view :But had the Pakistani generals/politicians not shoved Urdu down the throats of the Bengalis(believe me from personal experience Bengalis are very protective/passionate when it comes to their mother tongue !!!); had they been more sympathetic to the frequently flood ravaged Eastern province; had Bhutto allowed Mujibur to become PM whose party won the elections fair and square; had they not oppressed Bengali Hindus(again the thread of Bengali language unites majority Muslims and Hindus, Bengali Muslims are closer to Hindus in terms of culture than Muslim Biharis and are amongst the most secular population), had they set up more industries and not used that province as a dumping ground for finished goods, history may have been different. I read about many brave Bengalis who died fighting for Pakistan in the 1965 war,1967 six day war, so the condescending attitude was a bit shocking to understand. When you say "It wasn't entirely Pakistan's fault" what do you mean? Do you know the scale of atrocities during those 2-3 years committed on the Bengali population by the Pakistani army, heard of Tikka Khan? Do you think the Army looked down upon the Bengali Muslims whose culture had borrowed heavily from many local Hindu customs and hence was against their perceived idea of Islam? Till date Pakistan hasn't apologized for the genocide, don't you think the Bengalis deserve at least an apology from the Pakistani state? How is that part of history covered in Pakistani textbooks/literature? Are majority Pakistanis in denial about it(like say for instance calling it RAW backed operation, KGB operation,Cold War side effect etc) or are they willing to look at things objectively? Has the younger generation forgotten about it or do they long for he old days of united Pakistan? I think it will be tough for anyone because losing part of your country is never easy to accept for any sovereign state. In your opinion did the division strike a death knell to Jinnah's 2 nation theory because afterall Urdu/Punjabi speaking Muslims and Bengali Muslims couldn't get along?

Whatever you wrote, our side says the same. Take a look at the 1971 section in Pakistan Studies syllabus of GCE exams: http://www.cie.org.uk/programmes-and-qualifications/cambridge-o-level-pakistan-studies-2059/ However, i just wanted to mention that putting the blame wholly on Pakistan is factually wrong as indian intervention was necessary for the formation to bangladesh. Otherwise Pak army is too strong to be taken down as an institution. West Pakistanis in that time and even now have a condescending views due to their short heights, darker colors and weak body frames. It is without doubt very racist and explains the mentality with what East Pakistan was dealt with. However, Indian infiltration through Banhi Mukhti, teachers and support for Shiekh Mujeeb was significant. In my opinion yes, it did stirke a death knell on the two nation theory in a way. However, as we already know that was just a political propaganda to attain Pakistan which imo was very successful.

[Gollum]

Whatever you wrote' date=' our side says the same. Take a look at the 1971 section in Pakistan Studies syllabus of GCE exams: [url']http://www.cie.org.uk/programmes-and-qualifications/cambridge-o-level-pakistan-studies-2059/ However, i just wanted to mention that putting the blame wholly on Pakistan is factually wrong as indian intervention was necessary for the formation to bangladesh. Otherwise Pak army is too strong to be taken down as an institution. West Pakistanis in that time and even now have a condescending views due to their short heights, darker colors and weak body frames. It is without doubt very racist and explains the mentality with what East Pakistan was dealt with. However, Indian infiltration through Banhi Mukhti, teachers and support for Shiekh Mujeeb was significant. In my opinion yes, it did stirke a death knell on the two nation theory in a way. However, as we already know that was just a political propaganda to attain Pakistan which imo was very successful.

Thanks for the post

[zen]

I will not be surprised if such ideas are being thrown around by retired ISI / Army people trying to milk the corridor to create additional income for themselves where by their expertise will be used to protect the corridor from external / internal threats .... The corridor may also be portrayed as the land equivalent to Panama or Suez Canal to China :hysterical: Hopefully, the Chabahar port in Iran will help to create an alternate route to the CIS and Afghanistan region, and may be also to Europe via Turkey