NADA at risk of losing affiliation if BCCI stays reluctant for cricketers' dope test, warns WADA

[Khota]

1 hour ago, cricketrulez said:

so you don't mind submitting to a hypocritical organization? this matter was discussed to death 10 years ago. this is WADA trying to screw with BCCI when they are under supreme court control. morons like you are the prime reason for colonization of easy rule over india by the poms.

 

Cycling is apparently under WADA control, yet they never caught Lance armistraong or ulrich. Many cyclist who passed all WADa tests confessed after their career was over?

 

What is used of WADA certification?

 

 

why do you have a problem with cleaning up the game? Why should druggies have an advantage? Cheating must be part of your genetic makeup that is why you think it is OK.

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[rkt.india]

3 minutes ago, Khota said:

BCCI is hurting BCCI not some outside organization.

Lance Armstrong was caught so get off your high horse here.

Tour de France like I mentioned keeps urine samples in freezer so that they can go back and test too.

Doping in cycling was rampant anyway but they were smart about it.

Armstrong wasn't caught.

[Khota]

8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Armstrong wasn't caught.

He never tested positive.

He was caught during the grand jury investigation. USADA said he had a sophisticated program of drug violation.

random testing would have caught him earlier.

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[beetle]

6 minutes ago, Khota said:

He never tested positive.

He was caught during the grand jury investigation.

Exactly...so what is WADA's role in testing him negative for so long.

 

[Khota]

In defense of Armstrong everyone in biking was doing it. It was rampant. But he was still the best. In the tour everyone felt that if he did not do it he still might have won two or three but not the six (7?).

[Khota]

1 minute ago, beetle said:

Exactly...so what is WADA's role in testing him negative for so long.

 

He was beating the sytem by timing it. He ran a very sophisticated doping program with doctors and trainers involved to beat the system. He would have been easily caught if testing was random as WADA wants it.

[Trichromatic]

36 minutes ago, beetle said:

Exactly...so what is WADA's role in testing him negative for so long.

 

Apart from every other method used by Armstrong and team, one common method was to pretend that they are not at home when tester comes to collect the sample and they took very small doses that won't be detected next time (after few hours) testers found them.

 

I guess that's when 60 minutes clause was added.

[Trichromatic]

35 minutes ago, Khota said:

He was beating the sytem by timing it. He ran a very sophisticated doping program with doctors and trainers involved to beat the system. He would have been easily caught if testing was random as WADA wants it.

Not easily as they always remained ahead of testing. They would have found another way to beat the system, but yes just because there is way to beat system doesn't mean system is complete failure.

[BeautifulGame]

7 hours ago, Khota said:

Yes they will. They know it is banned and one lab was more sensitive than others.

There was no uniformity in testing by labs because wada is incompetent.

 

 

7 hours ago, Khota said:

He was hiding. teams dont take action against their own players only for one reason. They want to win.

 

No .

7 hours ago, Khota said:

 

Exactly. Trainers know what drugs to take and not get caught. He got caught.

Wrongly accused and acquited .So not caught.

7 hours ago, Khota said:

They knew it is a stimulant they were just testing it under a broader umbrella and not that specific name. That is why he got caught.

Again no.Wada itself didn't ban it.

7 hours ago, Khota said:

 

He knew he could take a banned substance under a different name.

No different same.Same name just that it wasn't banned substance.Wada wrongly tested him positive and had to retreat after their mess.

7 hours ago, Khota said:

He got off on a technicality. He is still a druggie.

So why didn't wada appeal to cos ?

Funny why you keep evading it.

7 hours ago, Khota said:

So you encourage a culture of cheating and unfair advantage.

 

Everything he did was a drug induced advantage.

You clearly prefer kangaroo court instead of understanding what actual justice system is.

 

 

[BeautifulGame]

2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Not easily as they always remained ahead of testing. They would have found another way to beat the system, but yes just because there is way to beat system doesn't mean system is complete failure.

No it means the system is incompetent and useless.

 

Just Google how wada messed up in the Meldonium drug banning.

 

They banned the Meldonium drug because a large number of athletes were taking it not because it was a performance enhancing drug.Tahts how incompetent wada is.

[Trichromatic]

4 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

No it means the system is incompetent and useless.

 

Just Google how wada messed up in the Meldonium drug banning.

 

They banned the Meldonium drug because a large number of athletes were taking it not because it was a performance enhancing drug.Tahts how incompetent wada is.

Not arguing in favor of WADA. Just stating that every sports needs a system as strict as possible. However no such system would be fool proof and there will always be players who would beat such system.

 

Cricket doesn't need WADA, but can't say for sure that it doesn't need random tests like those no matter who conducts those tests.

 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

 EPL, UEFA, LA liga, serie A do not have to abide by the Whereabouts clause. You are gora bootlicker.

Is there a source for this?

[Malcolm Merlyn]

When they play domestic circuit they dont when they play olympics all rules are the same.

That is once in 4 years.

When Indian team.plays ICC events ICC tests them.ICC even tests them during international matches.

[Khota]

7 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

Not easily as they always remained ahead of testing. They would have found another way to beat the system, but yes just because there is way to beat system doesn't mean system is complete failure.

First sane comment on this topic. Not a perfect system but far from a failure. Main reason drugs are not rampant is because of them. Moreover a rigrous testing like this is beneficial to India. In Australia and England where sports medicine is decade aheads they can easily beat the system by timing it and blood transfusion with a combination of diuretics. Always will test negative.

[Khota]

7 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

There was no uniformity in testing by labs because wada is incompetent.

There was a minimum standard and enhanced testing. The lab that caught him had more sophisticated testing. He was not aware of that the testing evolved. He was hoping to get away but was very fortunately caught.

 

7 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

No

Can you name one team that plays for the spirit of the game. They all want to win.

 

7 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

Wrongly accused and acquited .So not caught.

Just because you steal something and not get caught does not mean you are not a thief. You are still a crook. He was not fully prosecuted to the extent of the law. If it was made a criminal prosecution there would half a dozen pleas. You have no clue how the system works.

 

7 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

Again no.Wada itself didn't ban it.

For the tenth time they were not testing that name they were testing beta2 agonist. He should have duly infomed his team that he was taking these pills for a medical reason and there would have been no problem.

 

 

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[Khota]

7 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

So why didn't wada appeal to cos ?

Funny why you keep evading it.

 

There is no evasion. His team suspended him and he did not play. There was no point of further prosecuting him and moreover it got dirty.

 

Now the question you have been evading is if he was so done wrong as he and his blind followers claim why did he not file a defamation lawsuit. I would have done that. Is that out of goodness of his heart.

 

This is where I am going to explain you for the last time and no more. He did not do it for the same reason as none of the atheletes does it. This is when they will get caught. Once they file defamation law suit the lawyers will under oath make all the trainers and staff testify what excatly wa he doing and get all the medical records. then they will caught and perjuring yourself in the court will carry stiff senytence and jail time. Hence no defamation suit. 

 

That is exactly how lance got caught in a court not  by testing.

 

As far as western justice system is concerned it may not be perfect but it is far from Kangaroo courts. They go after their athletes and celebrities real hard. They did not spare lance Armstrong. german courts did not spare Steffi. Aussies court did not spare crocodile dundee. You are stuck with hero worship. Amitabh bachan is waliking free with panama accounts. Nothing is perfect but they try to be fair.

[Khota]

4 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

That is once in 4 years.

When Indian team.plays ICC events ICC tests them.ICC even tests them during international matches.

I think swimming is checked year round.

[BeautifulGame]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

 

There is no evasion. His team suspended him and he did not play. There was no point of further prosecuting him and moreover it got dirty.

What the * are u on about ? Find me a single link Liverpool suspended him during the entire episode?

 

Are you finally gonna accept you are making up stuff ?

 

1 minute ago, Khota said:

 

Now the question you have been evading is if he was so done wrong as he and his blind followers claim why did he not file a defamation lawsuit. I would have done that. Is that out of goodness of his heart.

He didn't file defamation suit because all he cared was proving he was innocent.

 

So how about annswering why wada didn't appeal?

1 minute ago, Khota said:

This is where I am going to explain you for the last time and no more. He did not do it for the same reason as none of the atheletes does it. This is when they will get caught. Once they file defamation law suit the lawyers will under oath make all the trainers and staff testify what excatly wa he doing and get all the medical records. then they will caught and perjuring yourself in the court will carry stiff senytence and jail time. Hence no defamation suit. 

Stop making up stuff

1 minute ago, Khota said:

That is exactly how lance got caught in a court not  by testing.

The

As far as western justice system is concerned it may not be perfect but it is far from Kangaroo courts. They go after their athletes and celebrities real hard. They did not spare lance Armstrong. german courts did not spare Steffi. Aussies court did not spare crocodile dundee. You are stuck with hero worship. Amitabh bachan is waliking free with panama accounts. Nothing is perfect but they try to be fair.

Wada isn't some western govt system lmao 

 

 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

I think swimming is checked year round.

Swimming is under USADA.Mlb Nhl Nba Nfl isnt and Wada cannot test them.

Wada cant even test players of la liga or epl who are not playing uefa or fifa matches. Neither enforces whereabouts clauses either.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Wada isn't some western govt system lmao 
 
 

WADA is a political organisation to project soft power of certain nations.