Indian cricket held on Ransom, Bunty Sajdeh n conflict of interest

[Silva]

36 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

How can you back Jadeja potential who is now the world no.1 bowler .

 

Dumb Dhoni.

In test cricket. In ODIs his bowling average is in the mid 30s and in T20Is he is somehow averaging over 30 yet he for some reason his selection is guaranteed. I don't even know how its even possible for a specialist spin bowler to not average under 30 in T20s after playing so many matches.

[BeautifulGame]

In test cricket. In ODIs his bowling average is in the mid 30s and in T20Is he is somehow averaging over 30 yet he for some reason his selection is guaranteed. I don't even know how its even possible for a specialist spin bowler to not average under 30 in T20s after playing so many matches.

 

Yes now he deserves to be benched.

 

But also won the Golden ball and a major reason won us the last CT .So he was one of the first names in the team till the emergence of Pandya because he added balance.

 

 

 

 

[Silva]

11 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

Yes now he deserves to be benched.

 

But also won the Golden ball and a major reason won us the last CT .So he was one of the first names in the team till the emergence of Pandya because he added balance.

 

 

 

 

I agree that Jadeja served his purpose since India did have issue with the 5th bowler spot since 2011 world cup and Jadeja seemed like the only real dependable option given his main competition was Yusuf Pathan and Stuart Binny. But team management screwed up big time when he kept getting picked even after the emergence Pandya. The Sri Lanka game should have been a warning. In hindsight Its especially sad considering Shami was their.

 

[BeautifulGame]

I agree that Jadeja served his purpose since India did have issue with the 5th bowler spot since 2011 world cup and Jadeja seemed like the only real dependable option given his main competition was Yusuf Pathan and Stuart Binny. But team management screwed up big time when he kept getting picked even after the emergence Pandya. The Sri Lanka game should have been a warning. In hindsight Its especially sad considering Shami was their.

 

 

Agree both Jadeja and Ashwin should now stick to test cricket.

 

Need attacking wrist spinners for ODIs.Him being benched for Kuldeep yesterday was a start.

[gattaca]

1 hour ago, BeautifulGame said:

How can you back Jadeja potential who is now the world no.1 bowler .

 

Dumb Dhoni.

Dhoni is good captain only in subcontinent conditions he backed one dimensional players like Ashwin and jadeja. You have both spinners who are one dimension that is a big issue for now since they are senior players even selectors will have trouble benching them this is what happens when a captain with limited vision backs players of his choice.

[BeautifulGame]

 

 

 

 

Dhoni is good captain only in subcontinent conditions  

 

 

 

England isn't in subcontinent

Neither is South Africa

[Rasgulla]

4 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Dhoni is good captain only in subcontinent conditions he backed one dimensional players like Ashwin and jadeja. You have both spinners who are one dimension that is a big issue for now since they are senior players even selectors will have trouble benching them this is what happens when a captain with limited vision backs players of his choice.

Yeh should have backed mishra alot cause he runs like a cheetah on the field and chawla who has 6 pack... Both can bat better than ashwin and jadeja  i fail to mention

[BeautifulGame]

 

You have both spinners who are one dimension that is a big issue for now since they are senior players even selectors will have trouble benching them this is what happens when a captain with limited vision backs players of his choice.

 

 

 

 

Sorry for the amusement.

 

 

But Dhoni was able to drop Ganguly Dravid Yuvi Gmabhir Sehwag and Zaheer from the ODI team.In what world are Ashwin bigger stars or more senior players than any of the above mentioned stars ?

 

Seriously n what world are Ashwin and Jadeja bigger stars than Sehwag or Ganguly .Or more senior players lol

 

If the current selection committee and captain can't drop fking Jadeja because he is a senior player then Dhoni isn't the problem.

 

 

[coffee_rules]

No wonder, Kumble was kicked out to keep the sanctity (read yaarana) of the change room.

[gattaca]

28 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

England isn't in subcontinent

Neither is South Africa

Lol have you heard of dry surfaces ?

[CG]

It's sad state of Indian cricket first it was Dhoni with rhiti sports and now Kohli with cornerstone but unlike Dhoni, Kohli does not hold shares in buntys company cornerstone.One agent can manage many players it's not against Sc guidelines.

[BeautifulGame]

Lol have you heard of dry surfaces ?

 

 

 

Apart from final neither had any dry surface .If anything 2013 there was turn due to rain and stickyness because of that.

[CG]

That's why there needs to checks and balances on captains power.Coach,senior players ,selectors all play a role in building a team.

[gattaca]

42 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

 

 

Apart from final neither had any dry surface .If anything 2013 there was turn due to rain and stickyness because of that.

You still missing the point they are in effective if they got no help from the surface. Hence one dimensional.

[gattaca]

37 minutes ago, CG said:

That's why there needs to checks and balances on captains power.Coach,senior players ,selectors all play a role in building a team.

Even after the Supreme Court committee nothing is changing.

[BeautifulGame]

You still missing the point they are in effective if they got no help from the surface. Hence one dimensional.

 

Which I fully agree.

 

But the point is they weren't an issue till 2015 WC .

 

Jadeja was important because we needed an all rounder at no.7 and he was the only viable option till Pandya emerged.

 

Ashwin was really good in the 2015 world obviously both were excellent in 2013 CT win.

 

But their downward spiral started after 2015 world cup when they should have been replaced.Particularly after the emergence of Kuldeep Yadav and Pandya .That's the job of current Captain n selectors.

 

What I have issue and find ridiculous is the nonsense in your post that we can't drop them now because Ashwin and Jadeja are senior players.If our Captain and Selectors are afraid that they can't replace these two because they are seniors it's not Dhoni's fault lol

 

It's fking Ashwin and Jadeja not Sehwag and Ganguly.

[Rasgulla]

How are you saying kohli doesn't have any shares lol ? There are many ways to profit if rohit and rahane is already signed... LOL 

 

Agent could just ask kohli to have them in the team and some deals can be done under the table  what a lot of plastic we got here from that guy LOL 

 

Dhoni has shares and kohli doesn't 

[gattaca]

19 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

Which I fully agree.

 

But the point is they weren't an issue till 2015 WC .

 

Jadeja was important because we needed an all rounder at no.7 and he was the only viable option till Pandya emerged.

 

Ashwin was really good in the 2015 world obviously both were excellent in 2013 CT win.

 

But their downward spiral started after 2015 world cup when they should have been replaced.Particularly after the emergence of Kuldeep Yadav and Pandya .That's the job of current Captain n selectors.

 

What I have issue and find ridiculous is the nonsense in your post that we can't drop them now because Ashwin and Jadeja are senior players.If our Captain and Selectors are afraid that they can't replace these two because they are seniors it's not Dhoni's fault lol

 

It's fking Ashwin and Jadeja not Sehwag and Ganguly.

Clearly kohli thinks other way. He is not going to drop them. Ashwin was so poor in the Bangladesh game and fielding he could easily played shami. 

[Cricketics]

1 hour ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

If the current selection committee and captain can't drop fking Jadeja because he is a senior player then Dhoni isn't the problem.

 

 

We have said million times give some effing time to the captain to drop players.

 

Dhoni did not drop players over night.

 

 

[BeautifulGame]

We have said million times give some effing time to the captain to drop players.

 

Dhoni did not drop players over night.

 

 

Clearly kohli thinks other way. He is not going to drop them. Ashwin was so poor in the Bangladesh game and fielding he could easily played shami. 

@cricketics You are quoting me out of context.