the don Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 16 minutes ago, Vilander said: Still no evidence you sir are pathetic lier but its par for the course for a pak national.. Cool. What do you mean by evidence you numpty ?? Are you too dumb to read or make an effort. Link to comment
the don Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, Vilander said: Lol Gillespie ...sorry post wasim and waqar or stfu ;) Why would i degrade wasim and waqar . Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, the don said: This is what i meant when i said in the other thread that back in the day Gillespie was consistently a much quicker bowler than srinath and the opposition and pundits rated him as such . an article from when shoaib and lee reignited the pace wars. http://www.espncricinfo.com/cricinfoat20/content/current/story/661125.html watch this. This is much quicker than Gillespie ever bowled. Gillespie never made batsmen hop and jump. Only bowlers who did that in last 10-15 years are Lee, Shoaib, Harmison, Starc, Johnson and they all clocked 150 when they did that. JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
the don Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: watch this. This is much quicker than Gillespie ever bowled. Gillespie never made batsmen hop and jump. Only bowlers who did that in last 10-15 years are Lee, Shoaib, Harmison, Starc, Johnson and they all clocked 150 when they did that. In the absence of speed guns we have to go with the batsmen's view. In this instance the batsmen are the likes of Hussain , thorpe and stewart . They all have mentioned the pace of waqar , donald . I havent heard them say srinath . He is bowling sharp here but its more the cut off the seam than sheer air speed . You guys are underestimating Gillespie . He lost a lot of pace later on but he 2 was very sharp at one point. JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Lolz.... Suddenly, why are we jumping to Gillespie? Hehehehe... You clearly said that Wasim and Waqar were faster, and just a few posts above you said they bowled faster than Srinath in 2003 WC. Please provide your proof JaFanatic and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, the don said: In the absence of speed guns we have to go with the batsmen's view. In this instance the batsmen are the likes of Hussain , thorpe and stewart . They all have mentioned the pace of waqar , donald . I havent heard them say srinath . He is bowling sharp here but its more the cut off the seam than sheer air speed . You guys are underestimating Gillespie . He lost a lot of pace later on but he 2 was very sharp at one point. Gillespie was fast medium at best like Bumrah (same pace range) and not genuine fast. Regarding the above video. Check the bouncers, they have not cuts look how batsmen are jumping and hopping. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
the don Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 57 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Gillespie was fast medium at best like Bumrah (same pace range) and not genuine fast. Regarding the above video. Check the bouncers, they have not cuts look how batsmen are jumping and hopping. No . Gillespie clocked over 150 kph several times in test matches even upto 153 kph. Bumrah doesnt even play test matches and has not clocked anything above 150 kph. Link to comment
the don Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said: Lolz.... Suddenly, why are we jumping to Gillespie? Hehehehe... You clearly said that Wasim and Waqar were faster, and just a few posts above you said they bowled faster than Srinath in 2003 WC. Please provide your proof My proof is the countless matches from the carlton and united series and others they played together . Not to mentiom opposition testimonies . Waqar is widely regarded as the fastest bowler of the 90s much quicker than srinath . What's your proof again , internet expert lol ?? Link to comment
the don Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said: Lolz.... Suddenly, why are we jumping to Gillespie? Hehehehe... You clearly said that Wasim and Waqar were faster, and just a few posts above you said they bowled faster than Srinath in 2003 WC. Please provide your proof Typical India pakistan game Mohanty 120 kph Prasad 120 kph Srinath 130 kph Lol thats trundling Compare 40 plus year old wasim and waqar clocking above 135 kph Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, the don said: Waqar is widely regarded as the fastest bowler of the 90s much quicker than srinath . Waqar was the quickest bowler from 1989 to 1994 or thereabouts. He was really fast in this period. His reputation was true and augmented due to his high quality toe-crushers. But his pace reduced after that due to injuries. Srinath was at his quickest from 1995 to 1997 .... hit those 157 k, 156 k speeds in this period and was quicker than Waqar during this period. Then had his shoulder surgery. The lives of fast bowlers are tough .... No-one stays the fastest bowler for a decade and injuries are inevitable. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 42 minutes ago, the don said: Typical India pakistan game Mohanty 120 kph Prasad 120 kph Srinath 130 kph Lol thats trundling Compare 40 plus year old wasim and waqar clocking above 135 kph Akram is 34 in that game, Srinath is 31, Waqar is 29. Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, the don said: Typical India pakistan game Mohanty 120 kph Prasad 120 kph Srinath 130 kph Lol thats trundling Compare 40 plus year old wasim and waqar clocking above 135 kph 1. Every Indian knows that Prasad and Mohanty are 2 of our slowest seamers in the last 25 years.... what is the point of giving their reference ? Moreover, Prasad bowled upto 130 k but somehow becomes 120 k 2. Not a single speed of Srinath is shown in his opening spell or middle spell. All speeds are 43 over onwards .... when Srinath was bowling slowish-cutters and slower balls almost all the time. 3. Srinath was nowhere near his top speed in the 2000s. 3. Akram and Waqar are not seen bowling in this video. The 130 k - 135 k guy was Razzak. 4. Wasim was 34 and Waqar 29 in year 2000 .... none of them were 40. Edited September 28, 2017 by express bowling Mosher and Rightarmfast 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) Test match vs SL Average speeds of Pakistani seamers till the 38th over Md. Amir 132 k Hasan Ali 134 k ..... hasn't touched 140 k in his first 5 overs Md. Abbas 129 k https://www.icc-cricket.com/match/6890#hawk-eye Edited September 28, 2017 by express bowling Rightarmfast and Mosher 2 Link to comment
the don Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, express bowling said: 1. Every Indian knows that Prasad and Mohanty are 2 of our slowest seamers in the last 25 years.... what is the point of giving their reference ? Moreover, Prasad bowled upto 130 k but somehow becomes 120 k 2. Not a single speed of Srinath is shown in his opening spell or middle spell. All speeds are 43 over onwards .... when Srinath was bowling slowish-cutters and slower balls almost all the time. 3. Srinath was nowhere near his top speed in the 2000s. 3. Akram and Waqar are not seen bowling in this video. The 130 k - 135 k guy was Razzak. 4. Wasim was 34 and Waqar 29 in year 2000 .... none of them were 40. Wrong Srinath is not bowling cutters but rather fast yorkers. You need to watch again if you cant see anyone other than razzak . Akram is bowling quicker than srinath . Lol waqars age is not acurate . Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, the don said: Wrong Srinath is not bowling cutters but rather fast yorkers. You need to watch again if you cant see anyone other than razzak . Akram is bowling quicker than srinath . Lol waqars age is not acurate . Don't worry, we all know that lying and cheating comes naturally to Pakistani cricketers, so no surprises there. Whats hilarious is, someone trying to win an argument by proving they had cheated about their age! Link to comment
the don Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: Don't worry, we all know that lying and cheating comes naturally to Pakistani cricketers, so no surprises there. Whats hilarious is, someone trying to win an argument by proving they had cheated about their age! Lol i am not trying to win any argument . I am just stating a fact here . Not really indian cricketers are just as big if not bigger cheaters . Not as good at cricket though. Indian pacers do bowl fast in the forums dont know why they trundle in an actual india pakistan game. Edited September 28, 2017 by the don Link to comment
the don Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 27 minutes ago, express bowling said: 8 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: Don't worry, we all know that lying and cheating comes naturally to Pakistani cricketers, so no surprises there. Whats hilarious is, someone trying to win an argument by proving they had cheated about their age! Now where is that video of srinath clocking demonic speeds on the speed gun lol ?? Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, the don said: Wrong Srinath is not bowling cutters but rather fast yorkers. Most deliveries bowled by him are either slower cutters or slower balls . Quote You need to watch again if you cant see anyone other than razzak . Akram is bowling quicker than srinath . Find a proper video if you want to prove your point. Saw again and they may have shown 1 delivery of Akram at the beginning. No Waqar. While Srinath's speed has not been shown in his opening spell, where he used to bowl the fastest. Slog overs are very bad times to gauge speeds unless you are a yorker specialist. Quote Lol waqars age is not acurate . Happens with so many cricketers in Pakistan ..... but he was nowhere near 40 ... may have been 31 or 32 actually Edited September 28, 2017 by express bowling Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, the don said: Not as good at cricket though. Really ! .... winner of 2 World Cups vs your 1 No.1 test team for the last 1 year .... you are No. 6 or No.5 No.1 ODI team now too Quote Indian pacers do bowl fast in the forums dont know why they trundle in an actual india pakistan game. The fastest bowler in the CT 17 final was Bumrah . Fastest Bumrah 148 k Pandya 146 k Amir 145 k Bhuvi 143 k Hasan 143 k Junaid 139 k http://www.bcci.tv/icc-champions-trophy-2017/match/15 Edited September 28, 2017 by express bowling Rightarmfast and tweaker 2 Link to comment
WC2011INDIA Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 great jinx thread. Link to comment
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