Shunya Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tattieboy said: Who are the other top 7 batsmen? Pick any of the 7 out of ICC top 20 ODI batsman list. Personally I would go with ABD, FAF, Root, Babar, Warner, Williamson, Decock/Buttler Link to comment
shortbread Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, Shunya said: All 3 of our top order batsman are Top 10 batsman in the world. Rohit has flopped big time this series, but he is still in top 10 overall. NoH!t is guaranteed to flop outside India against a decent pace attack. Need a new opener to accompany Dhawan. Link to comment
Shunya Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, shortbread said: NoH!t is guaranteed to flop outside India against a decent pace attack. Need a new opener to accompany Dhawan. I hope not. Considering this series as aberration, he is decent ODI player hopefully will turn it around by WC Link to comment
Tattieboy Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Shunya said: I hope not. Considering this series as aberration, he is decent ODI player hopefully will turn it around by WC As it's just an aberration I look forward to seeing him score runs for fun in England Link to comment
Khota Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, Tattieboy said: I would agree he is a good ODI player and on his day he is destructive , where I don't agree is that he is a good test opener He is the best India has. Name one better? Link to comment
gakgupta Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 I would agree he is a good ODI player and on his day he is destructive , where I don't agree is that he is a good test opener He is not made for test cricket....but he is one of the best one day openers....if he is more conscious and pay little more attention on his wicket, he can make more one day hundreds....Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Tapatalk Tattieboy 1 Link to comment
Tattieboy Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Khota said: He is the best India has. Name one better? I didn't say there was a better Indian test opener , I said he wasn't a good test opener Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Dhawan is good in odi wickets. He can not survive on test grade wickets that have some assistance for bowlers. He is an active scoring batsman who needs to be more circumspect and needs the game for it to survive in challenging wickets. ODI wickets are true wickets and players like Dhawan thrive in it. It's a bit like wrist Vs finger because wrist takes pitch out of equation they can play in flat wickets and pick wickets at the same time that wide one long hop is not an issue. In tests you need spinners with much more control as batsmen don't have to score they can just wait so spinners have to attack the stumps pressure releasing balls means you will never pick wickets. Even when you pick wickets runs could become an issue as well; Look at recent BD Vs SL test both spinners took wickets but BD gave one long hop per over. Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 50 minutes ago, Tattieboy said: I didn't say there was a better Indian test opener , I said he wasn't a good test opener There is Vijay Rahul and PP Patel's grandma who are better than Dhawan Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Khota said: make it 4. Our top 4 are the best in the world. We dnt have a fixed no.4 ever since yuvraj singh.......how on earth we have best top 4 Link to comment
Tattieboy Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Vilander said: There is Vijay Rahul and PP Patel's grandma who are better than Dhawan PP Patel's grandma yes , other two is stretching it a bit Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tattieboy said: PP Patel's grandma yes , other two is stretching it a bit Lol you are saying Dhawan is better than Vijay and KLR? Link to comment
Tattieboy Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Vilander said: Lol you are saying Dhawan is better than Vijay and KLR? Tests or ODI? Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tattieboy said: Tests or ODI? Tests Link to comment
Tattieboy Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Just now, Vilander said: Tests No he is not But I don't think India at this moment have any opener for overseas series in England and Australia that is upto the job required in Tests Vilander 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: We dnt have a fixed no.4 ever since yuvraj singh.......how on earth we have best top 4 We do have fixed 4. You just dont want to agree to it. That could change in the future. Yuvraj was useless for last year or two. Link to comment
Khota Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, Vilander said: Dhawan is good in odi wickets. He can not survive on test grade wickets that have some assistance for bowlers. He is an active scoring batsman who needs to be more circumspect and needs the game for it to survive in challenging wickets. ODI wickets are true wickets and players like Dhawan thrive in it. It's a bit like wrist Vs finger because wrist takes pitch out of equation they can play in flat wickets and pick wickets at the same time that wide one long hop is not an issue. In tests you need spinners with much more control as batsmen don't have to score they can just wait so spinners have to attack the stumps pressure releasing balls means you will never pick wickets. Even when you pick wickets runs could become an issue as well; Look at recent BD Vs SL test both spinners took wickets but BD gave one long hop per over. last time he played on doctored pitches he did better than Vijay. And then he was dropped. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Khota said: We do have fixed 4. You just dont want to agree to it. That could change in the future. Yuvraj was useless for last year or two. Where??? who ???? If ur talking about rahane let him keep his spot for 20 games at 4 then say he is fixed. Its not about my liking or disliking if ur talking about him being permanent let him play their for few series regulalry M talking about old yuvraj, the problem of no.4 has been ever since Link to comment
Khota Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Where??? who ???? If ur talking about rahane let him keep his spot for 20 games at 4 then say he is fixed. Its not about my liking or disliking if ur talking about him being permanent let him play their for few series regulalry M talking about old yuvraj, the problem of no.4 has been ever since Rahane. He is good but I have no idea why he is misfiring. Like I said these guys need to be benched for a game. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Khota said: Rahane. He is good but I have no idea why he is misfiring. Like I said these guys need to be benched for a game. No idea, his 80 match career wasnt a sample for u Link to comment
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