Indian Batsmen vs Spin

[Straight Drive]

Not just against spin, the overall test batting has degraded. Gauti,Sehwag,Rahul Dravid, Sachin, VVS and Saurav were many times better in tests than Vijay,Shikhar, Rahul, Chet,Virat and Ajinkya.It's been more than 7 years and the only quality long term replacement we have found in this time is Virat Kohli. The loss of Sehwag,Rahul,Sachin and VVS cannot be made by just Virat Kohli.We needed few more batsmen who could have a much better career batting average.

[Vilander]

19 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Perhaps but he has been a damn good spinner. His revs have been as high as 2400 rpm compared to ashwins peak of around 1600 rpm. That's a massive difference.  That why he was getting so much bounce and turn on the odd delivery. Currently among offspinner s - Lyon and Ali give it the biggest rip consistently. Ashwin is no match for that. We need a spinner who can match that. 

May be we wil see about ashwin.

[Moochad]

On 9/3/2018 at 2:00 AM, rkt.india said:

it shows how perception works.

I bet he'd average higher if he batted higher up the order

[Deleted_User_1]

Sadly the video available is crappy as heck, but if you want to see how to play against spin on a minefield, there is no better example than Sunnyji's last test innings in Bangalore against Pak in late 1986 where he scored 96. That's is how you play spin bachhu!

[Tibarn]

Checking the stats for Sunny because the other poster mentioned him:

S. Gavaskar

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/28794.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting;view=dismissal_summary

Dismissal summary

Grouping	Span	Dis	bwd	c fie	c wk	st	lbw	hw	ro	oth	no	Ave	0s
pace bowler	1971-1987	144	23	52	52	1	16	0	0	0	0	34.94	12
spin bowler	1971-1987	47	9	34	2	1	1	0	0	0	0	68.02	0
mixture/unknown	1971-1985	7	1	1	0	0	0	0	5	0	0	72.85	0

 

68.02 avg is superb, but is 3rd on the list: 

 

Based on all the stats in this thread, by average the top 5 Indian batsmen vs spin are

1) Sehwag 74.09

2) Vijay 69.74

3) Gavaskar 68.02

4) Kohli 67.71

5) Gambhir 64.12

 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Tibarn

[Moochad]

1 hour ago, Tibarn said:

Checking the stats for Sunny because the other poster mentioned him:

S. Gavaskar

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/28794.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting;view=dismissal_summary

Dismissal summary

Grouping	Span	Dis	bwd	c fie	c wk	st	lbw	hw	ro	oth	no	Ave	0s
pace bowler	1971-1987	144	23	52	52	1	16	0	0	0	0	34.94	12
spin bowler	1971-1987	47	9	34	2	1	1	0	0	0	0	68.02	0
mixture/unknown	1971-1985	7	1	1	0	0	0	0	5	0	0	72.85	0

 

68.02 avg is superb, but is 3rd on the list: 

 

Based on all the stats in this thread, by average the top 5 Indian batsmen vs spin are

1) Sehwag 74.09

2) Vijay 69.74

3) Gavaskar 68.02

4) Kohli 67.71

5) Gambhir 64.12

 

4 are openers, only Kohli is a middle order batsmen 

[Nikola]

Compare either batsman of this era with themselves or old era. Facing Murli & Warne was no joke. Pak had Saqlain Mushtaq. These batsman score against spinner in india only that too if its highway else they can get to out to part timers on rank turners. In SENA countries if there is bit rough i bet these all batsman in current team will struggle to chase anything about 200 no matter who the spinner is. 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Nikola