Vijy Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, express bowling said: Kaul and Chahar have been sent back from the national team after they looked totally innocuous against international batsmen. Don't know why the both of them are getting selected together. There should not be more than 1 trundler in the team ... and that too if he is very highly skilled. Add to this Shardul, who is a short fast-medium bowler. This bowling attack is looking too similar in the first 3 matches. yeah, it's bad. was hoping to see aniket or tanvir and see if any left-arm alternatives to khaleed 2.0 (the trundly-wonder) could be discovered. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Vijy said: yeah, it's bad. was hoping to see aniket or tanvir and see if any left-arm alternatives to khaleed 2.0 (the trundly-wonder) could be discovered. Both Tanveer and Aniket were bowling 127 k to 133 k with moderate skills in their televised Ranji match. Did not look international quality. Link to comment
Samcric Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Surprised no one has mentioned about Prithvi Shaw? Is he injured? Mumbai hasn't qualified for Semis so he should be available. He could have opened and could become our back-up opener if KL's form does not improve. Link to comment
fineleg Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Samcric said: Surprised no one has mentioned about Prithvi Shaw? Is he injured? Mumbai hasn't qualified for Semis so he should be available. He could have opened and could become our back-up opener if KL's form does not improve. injured Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Both Tanveer and Aniket were bowling 127 k to 133 k with moderate skills in their televised Ranji match. Did not look international quality. Can’t expect them to bowl with the same intensity throughout the season. Both have bowled lots of overs - 282 for Aniket and 350 for Tanvir in last 10-11 weeks, with a FC match almost every week. No bowler will last such a gruelling schedule with back to back matches Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Can’t expect them to bowl with the same intensity throughout the season. Both have bowled lots of overs - 282 for Aniket and 350 for Tanvir in last 10-11 weeks, with a FC match almost every week. No bowler will last such a gruelling schedule with back to back matches A good bowler will still bowl atleast 2 out of 6 spells at high intensity in an important and televised knockout match. Remember Saini last season. Was bowling 137 k to 145 k with accuracy even in the 10th over of a spell of his 10 match of the season. And picked fifers. Earned him a test squad berth. Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 57 minutes ago, express bowling said: A good bowler will still bowl atleast 2 out of 6 spells at high intensity in an important and televised knockout match. Remember Saini last season. Was bowling 137 k to 145 k with accuracy even in the 10th over of a spell of his 10 match of the season. And picked fifers. Earned him a test squad berth. You seem to have some weird criteria and give up on players far too easily. The guy took 7 back to back 5-ears and you’ve declared him not good enough after one match! Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 6 hours ago, express bowling said: Kaul and Chahar have been sent back from the national team after they looked totally innocuous against international batsmen. Don't know why the both of them are getting selected together. There should not be more than 1 trundler in the team ... and that too if he is very highly skilled. Add to this Shardul, who is a short fast-medium bowler. This bowling attack is looking too similar in the first 3 matches. Takur , Chahar - One common link i see is they play for CSK . And india one day has MSD, Jadhav , Jadeja , Raydu .. Sometimes it makes think and think hard & long why these leeches do not go out of favour ....? Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: You seem to have some weird criteria and give up on players far too easily. The guy took 7 back to back 5-ears and you’ve declared him not good enough after one match! I never put too much importance on FC performances and stats by themselves. The quality of average opposition batters and opposition bowlers is not that high. First, the game of the player must look suitable for international cricket. That is the key. Then I look for performers among the right kinds of players. At least 80% of the top run getters and wicket takers in Ranji Trophy never end up being international players. Jimmypage 1 Link to comment
Jimmypage Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, express bowling said: I never put too much importance on FC performances and stats by themselves. The quality of average opposition batters and opposition bowlers is not that high. First, the game of the player must look suitable for international cricket. That is the key. Then I look for performers among the right kinds of players. At least 80% of the top run getters and wicket takers in Ranji Trophy never end up being international players. True, stats in domestic cricket can be quite deceptive, that's why it's all more important that you should have selectors who have got an eye for talent. What better example of this than Vinay Kumar, he is a legend in domestic cricket, but when you see him bowl, you just know he is nowhere near international quality. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 12 hours ago, express bowling said: I never put too much importance on FC performances and stats by themselves. The quality of average opposition batters and opposition bowlers is not that high. First, the game of the player must look suitable for international cricket. That is the key. Then I look for performers among the right kinds of players. At least 80% of the top run getters and wicket takers in Ranji Trophy never end up being international players. we can't take FC stats to be conclusive, but they still tell us part of the story - it's just that they don't tell us everything. otherwise, someone would think aditya sarwate is the best spinner in the country (as per stats). in reality, it's more likely he has bagged a lot of wkts on rank turners. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Vijy said: we can't take FC stats to be conclusive, but they still tell us part of the story - it's just that they don't tell us everything. otherwise, someone would think aditya sarwate is the best spinner in the country (as per stats). in reality, it's more likely he has bagged a lot of wkts on rank turners. Best way to select an international player is to first look at him bat or bowl. If he looks to have the requisite qualities then choose him if he is performing. Performances in FC is important to weed out the non performers among the international prospects. Otherwise, we have had Joginder Sharma averaging 21 and Vinay Kumar averaging 23 in FC cricket. Are they our best pacers ever ? Edited January 21, 2019 by express bowling Mosher, Vijy and kooljatt 1 2 Link to comment
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