The Ashes (2019)

[putrevus]

Just now, Nikola said:

Starc starts spraying at times and can't maintain pressure built by others. Siddle has bowled really tight in this series without luck but starc has x factor like archer.

Siddle will not win you matches, Starc can win you matches in one spell.I would take Starc over Siddle any day.

[Nikola]

Just now, putrevus said:

Siddle will not win you matches, Starc can win you matches in one spell.I would take Starc over Siddle any day.

Starc has played 2013, 2015 ashes in eng and hasn't done much imo. Siddle has had good tight spell and did great containing job multiple times. 

[putrevus]

England is ruining Root, he should bat at no4.Why is he protecting Denly.

[Nikola]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

England is ruining Root, he should bat at no4.Why is he protecting Denly.

Root is no good at 4 as well. he should give up captaincy and focus on his batting.

[Frustrated]

England team selection is more baffling than ours.

 

Hack Roy has scores of 0 & 2 in this match.   Even 2 days of washout may not be enough to stop the poms from losing this match. LOL

[MK55]

England’s top order is vulnerable against the short ball. Starc definitely has to play

[Nikola]

Dropped again for siddle. Poor man.

[Nikola]

Warner has dropped two. Eng has been really lucky this session.

[Nikola]

Burns gone. Siddle deserves this.

[cricketfan28]

kamaan englaaand .. win this one.

[-Robin-]

Why steven finn dont play anymore?? 

[Nikola]

9 minutes ago, -Robin- said:

Why steven finn dont play anymore?? 

He changed his action i guess due to injuries and was never same bowler. 

[TheWall]

11 hours ago, rkt.india said:

No. They were not. 95 mph in tests is no joke and is an extremely rare commodity. You can count them in one hand since speed guns are in use from 99. Lee, Akhtar, Johnson, Starc who have done it in test cricket more consistently than anyone. Only 4 in last 20 years and you supposed to say WI had 4 at once. Even WI has only produced Jofra in two decades.

WI had more than 4 at once. That team was the most fearsome and the best .....

Akhtar, Lee, jofra etc are just nothing when compared to them....

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, TheWall said:

WI had more than 4 at once. That team was the most fearsome and the best .....

Akhtar, Lee, jofra etc are just nothing when compared to them....

no, that's a myth. akhtar and lee were faster than virtually every bowler in the 70s and 80s with the sole exception of the freak thommo. the next fastest were holder, marshall and roberts but none of them were as fast as akhtar and lee (garner and croft were not as fast - they were low 140s whose main asset was massive bounce). as for archer, he has played too few tests to undertake a direct comparison.

Edited August 18, 2019 by Vijy

[Insidious]

3 hours ago, Vijy said:

no, that's a myth. akhtar and lee were faster than virtually every bowler in the 70s and 80s with the sole exception of the freak thommo. the next fastest were holder, marshall and roberts but none of them were as fast as akhtar and lee (garner and croft were not as fast - they were low 140s whose main asset was massive bounce). as for archer, he has played too few tests to undertake a direct comparison.

Being just quicker means nothing. Mitchel Johnson in 2013-15 was more devastating than Lee ever was in his entire career. Those 4 west indian bowlers knew how to bowl effective bouncers, by using crease.

[rkt.india]

17 hours ago, putrevus said:

Common man stop it with your speed gun nonsense, they did not have to hit 95mph every ball  to be effective.They all had genuine pace go and read accounts the players who faced them.

You were saying they had 4 Jofra Archers which is untrue. They are more bowlers now than ever who have genuine pace. You just have to admit it wasn't the greatest quality of cricket in 80s with only one good team around. India was ****, England was ****, Aus was ****, SA was banned, Pak was high on bottle caps.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Insidious said:

Being just quicker means nothing. Mitchel Johnson in 2013-15 was more devastating than Lee ever was in his entire career. Those 4 west indian bowlers knew how to bowl effective bouncers, by using crease.

Because Lee never used intimidation as weapon.

[rkt.india]

5 hours ago, TheWall said:

WI had more than 4 at once. That team was the most fearsome and the best .....

Akhtar, Lee, jofra etc are just nothing when compared to them....

That's just a myth. They weren't even faster than Umesh Yadav. They just played in an era when other teams were quite ****. 

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Insidious said:

Being just quicker means nothing. Mitchel Johnson in 2013-15 was more devastating than Lee ever was in his entire career. Those 4 west indian bowlers knew how to bowl effective bouncers, by using crease.

I believe you have misread the context. I was rebutting the claim by TheWall that WI had >4 pace bowlers who consistently bowled above 95 mph. this is patently untrue. they had 3 who bowled over 90 mph consistently and a few more who operated in the 87-90 mph.

Edited August 18, 2019 by Vijy

[Vijy]

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

That's just a myth. They weren't even faster than Umesh Yadav. They just played in an era when other teams were quite ****. 

you should listen to some of the other myths. some are truly funny. claims that mohd zahid bowled 170 kmph, that frank tyson bowled 160-170 kmph, that larwood bowled 160 kmph, etc. I am surprised we have not seen claims of someone bowling 200 kmph in the past.