West Indies vs India, 2nd Test, ICC World Test Championship at Kingston, Aug 30 - Sep 3 2019

[cowboysfan]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Indian batting does not inspire any confidence.This is just awful batting by openers what are they waiting for, they should go all out attack but this prodding and poking will lead them to nowhere.

they need practice,a much better bowling attack will be waiting for them in a few months/

[putrevus]

So these openers are not long term options.Agarwal who looked good in Australia has looked very iffy on this tour.

[Vijy]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

So these openers are not long term options.Agarwal who looked good in Australia has looked very iffy on this tour.

he made a 50 just one innings ago in more challenging conditions than today. Mayank should play for a few more tests at the least. KLR should go. Time to bring in panchal, easwaran and gill.

[putrevus]

Just now, Vijy said:

he made a 50 just one innings ago in more challenging conditions than today. Mayank should play for a few more tests at the least. KLR should go. Time to bring in panchal, easwaran and gill.

I am not saying Mayank needs to be dropped now but he is almost 29 not sure he is there for long haul.I want Gill to play as opener vs SA.

[Vijy]

our batting looks so fragile. will not be surprised if we are all out for < 150-200 this innings. fortunately, thanks to the huge lead and the ineptness of WI batting, we will still win the match.

[Norman]

I'm sensing the comebacks of Vijay and Dhawan as openers for the south Africa series. 

[Vijy]

Just now, putrevus said:

I am not saying Mayank needs to be dropped now but he is almost 29 not sure he is there for long haul.I want Gill to play as opener vs SA.

hussey was 29 and an opener in FC as well. gill is probably going to play in middle order going by A matches. too many domestic openers around: gill, shaw, panchal, easwaran as well as discards like dhawan, vijay.

[putrevus]

Just now, Vijy said:

hussey was 29 and an opener in FC as well. gill is probably going to play in middle order going by A matches. too many domestic openers around: gill, shaw, panchal, easwaran as well as discards like dhawan, vijay.

How many tests did Hussey play, do you think Mayank is in that class.Once he started his decline he was out that is what happens when you are old.

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I am not saying Mayank needs to be dropped now but he is almost 29 not sure he is there for long haul.I want Gill to play as opener vs SA.

even if he gives 4 years whats the harm.....he is at an age where batsman is suppose to be at his peek. Gill can be a good middle order option 

 

[Prabhdeep Singh]

I believe Rohit Sharma will get opportunity as opener Vs SA series.

 

Mayank has had an average series.

 

KL Rahul needs to score in this innings otherwise he is in trouble also. 

 

P Shaw is banned.

[cowboysfan]

Rahul is pissing me off,if he wants to lave the ball then get the bat away,no need to hang it around the ball.

[Vijy]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

How many tests did Hussey play, do you think Mayank is in that class.Once he started his decline he was out that is what happens when you are old.

why ask a rhetorical question? he played nearly 80 tests (79). unless you expect every single player to play a 100 tests - which is quite unrealistic - playing 80 tests counts as a long and distinguished career in my book.

 

Mayank is probably not in Hussey's class, but he has scored mountains of runs and earned the right to a long run. he batted very well against a top attack (Oz) in home conditions. plenty of others to go after in the indian team instead of a newbie like him: KLR or rahane have flattered to deceive much more in the past 2 yrs.

[putrevus]

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

even if he gives 4 years whats the harm.....he is at an age where batsman is suppose to be at his peek. Gill can be a good middle order option 

 

No one said there is any harm, but he will not get long rope like Rahul did.He needs to score 100s soon.

[Prabhdeep Singh]

1st 11 Vs SA:

 

R Sharma

M Agarwal/KL Rahul

C Pujara

V Kohli

A Rahane

H Vihari

R Pant

R Jadeja

R Ashwin

M Shami

J Bumrah

 

Squad Players:

 

I Sharma

K Yadav

S Gill

S Iyer

[putrevus]

Just now, Vijy said:

why ask a rhetorical question? he played nearly 80 tests (79). unless you expect every single player to play a 100 tests - which is quite unrealistic - playing 80 tests counts as a long and distinguished career in my book.

 

Mayank is probably not in Hussey's class, but he has scored mountains of runs and earned the right to a long run. he batted very well against a top attack (Oz) in home conditions. plenty of others to go after in the indian team instead of a newbie like him: KLR or rahane have flattered to deceive much more in the past 2 yrs.

Becuase you mentioned Hussey, he is nowhere near the caliber of Hussey.He will start as an opener vs SA but if he flops in that series, questions will start about him.

[Norman]

3 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

Rahul is pissing me off,if he wants to lave the ball then get the bat away,no need to hang it around the ball.

Chewt got out in the semi doing that. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

No one said there is any harm, but he will not get long rope like Rahul did.He needs to score 100s soon.

rahul did enough to earn a long rope.....he scored overseas...made runs in India and to be honest he also has been in n out of side

Shaw expulsion , dhawan n vijay decline also helped

 

Mayank if he does well till the time he hits decline will get some backing during tough phase.....but for that he needs to build the reputation 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

1st 11 Vs SA:

 

R Sharma

 

Rohit sharma opening in test ...comedy chal rha hai kya

[putrevus]

This type of batting defeats the purpose of enforcing follow on.Rahul is so lucky he is still out there.India won't win against stronger teams away with this kind of batting.All the three innings so far lower order had to save them.

[Vijy]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

rahul did enough to earn a long rope.....he scored overseas...made runs in India and to be honest he also has been in n out of side

Shaw expulsion , dhawan n vijay decline also helped

 

Mayank if he does well till the time he hits decline will get some backing during tough phase.....but for that he needs to build the reputation 

I don't think KLR did enough to earn that long rope. an avg of 35 after 35+ tests is almost like an opener from 1980s india (chetan chauhan-level). TM just persisted with him because we hadn't unearthed shaw and agarwal by then, and because dhawan and vijay were doing even more badly. now, there are plenty of backups such as gill (who can double as middle order bat), panchal and easwaran.