Jay Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Exactly ! Archer was averaging high 130s in many tests. Bowling in t20 and odi is one thing. Tests is a whole different ball game. We just need bowlers who are fast medium but are able to crank it up in spells when needed. That's all. Like what booms and shami do. You have to be a complete retard ro bowl 146 plus in tests consistently. You won't survive. Wood does it for like a 2 over spell and then gasses out. He gets injured after. If that's the case even current umesh can do that. Umesh at his best was express pace and he maintained pace for the whole series unlike modern players. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 https://youtube.com/shorts/tJBPxkBUV64?feature=share Prince certainly has bowled decent clicks at times but he lacks the endurance. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 https://www.iplt20.com/video/245317/mavi-s-4-21-hands-kkr-massive-win Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Show me one bowler who bowls 148 plus consistently in tests without breaking breaking down. Fastest on average is nortje and he averages 142. Also starc. 142. Bumrah is 138-139. Barely any difference. We have umran right now who can bowl 150 plus. Let's hope he does so in tests. Where did i mention tests?This thread is full of false hype with most bowlers not even making to the IPL let alone India A.Eye Speed guns being used to call bowlers "quick"India doesn't have a bowler who can run in and bowl 150ks consistently in a spell.Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Mesky99 1 Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 150 kph is 93 mph and not 95 mph.Both different comments.Thread should be closed till we get one bowler who clocks 95 mph consistently.Thread hypes up bowlers and not even one hits150k consistently.Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Fast bowling isn't just bowling 150kph.Then please say it's about medium fast and fast medium bowling.Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Where did i mention tests? This thread is full of false hype with most bowlers not even making to the IPL let alone India A. Eye Speed guns being used to call bowlers "quick" India doesn't have a bowler who can run in and bowl 150ks consistently in a spell. Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Vo to kisi ke paas bhi nahi hai. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Then please say it's about medium fast and fast medium bowling. Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Anything between 140-148 is fast. 150 or more is express pace. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Anything between 140-148 is fast. 150 or more is express pace. So did you check these guys on the speed gun?Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Where did i mention tests? This thread is full of false hype with most bowlers not even making to the IPL let alone India A. Eye Speed guns being used to call bowlers "quick" India doesn't have a bowler who can run in and bowl 150ks consistently in a spell. Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Most of these are IPL finds, some recently talked about were IPL net bowlers this year and may get picked this time. Likes of Nikhil Kohli, Akash Madhwal, Ajoy Sarkar, etc Link to comment
Jay Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Where did i mention tests? This thread is full of false hype with most bowlers not even making to the IPL let alone India A. Eye Speed guns being used to call bowlers "quick" India doesn't have a bowler who can run in and bowl 150ks consistently in a spell. Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Let's talk odi. forget about tests. Because bumrah is up there amongst the fastest in tests. He averages 139. Nortje is the fastest at 142. In odi? Tell me who is the fastest ? I mean not a one off. Who is consistently the fastest? Lockie and maybe starc? Average speed for both is 143 at best. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Vo to kisi ke paas bhi nahi hai.Nortje Wood Archer Starc Ferguson etc can all bowl close to 150 or more across a spell consistently.There are others who can clock consistently between 145 to 150 across a spell.Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: So did you check these guys on the speed gun? Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Yes eye speed guns Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Nortje Wood Archer Starc Ferguson etc can all bowl close to 150 or more across a spell consistently. There are others who can clock consistently between 145 to 150 across a spell. Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Nortje, Wood, Ferguson all played IPl but an bowled the quickest. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Most of these are IPL finds, some recently talked about were IPL net bowlers this year and may get picked this time. Likes of Nikhil Kohli, Akash Madhwal, Ajoy Sarkar, etc Let them be picked and play in the IPL. We will see their speeds then.Right now except Umran Malik who some experts are hoping will bowl 145 plus mostly and may touch 150k once in a while, there is no other resource.Btw Mavi hardly hit 140ks in IPL. Nagarkoti didn't even get a game. Prasidh was flop. :))Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Nortje, Wood, Ferguson all played IPl but an bowled the quickest.Wood played? Which team?Who bowled the quickest?Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk Link to comment
Jay Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Nortje Wood Archer Starc Ferguson etc can all bowl close to 150 or more across a spell consistently. There are others who can clock consistently between 145 to 150 across a spell. Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk And how many games do they play? Lockie gets injured every second game. Starc dint touch 150 much this time. Archer is usually flattened after one series. Wood another injury prone player. Nortje is the only one. He can crank it up in odi sure. But his average speed is still only 143. Bowling a few bowls at 150 ans then going back down to 138 isn't express. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Let them be picked and play in the IPL. We will see their speeds then. Right now except Umran Malik who some experts are hoping will bowl 145 plus mostly and may touch 150k once in a while, there is no other resource. Btw Mavi hardly hit 140ks in IPL. Nagarkoti didn't even get a game. Prasidh was flop. :)) Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk You don't need speed guns to know someone is quick. I knew Kartik, Koti and Mavi were quick even before they were clocked under speed guns. Mavi coming back from 2 years of injury lay off is doing fine. Someone coming after two years and immediately hitting 140s is decent enough return that too in pandemic when they could hardly play or practice. Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Nortje Wood Archer Starc Ferguson etc can all bowl close to 150 or more across a spell consistently. Got to agree that we badly need atleast 2 quicks of this speed range. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 You don't need speed guns to know someone is quick. I knew Kartik, Koti and Mavi were quick even before they were clocked under speed guns. Mavi coming back from 2 years of injury lay off is doing fine. Someone coming after two years and immediately hitting 140s is decent enough return that too in pandemic when they could hardly play or practice. Arey bhai you are Brahma Dev of fast bowlers. You know their speeds from the moment their mothers deliver them.Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk ShoonyaSifar, Mesky99 and speedheat 3 Link to comment
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