Ind Team A vs Ind Team B (Tests)

[zen]

Team A: Pre 1990 and post 2009 

 

Gavaskar (c) 

Mankad

Pujara

Kohli

Amarnath 

Pant

Kapil

Ashwin

Shami

Bumrah

Chandra

12th man Pandya 

 

• Good bowling attack with 3 pacers (Bumrah-Shami-Kapil) and 3 spinners (Chandra-Ashwin-Mankad) 
• Amarnath can bowl too if required 

 

 

Team B: 1990-2009 

 

Sehwag

Gambhir

Dravid

Tendulkar

Ganguly (c)

VVS

Dhoni

Kumble

Zak

Srinath 

Harbhajan 

12th man Irfan

 

• 4 main bowlers but can be supported by Ganguly-Sehwag-Tendulkar 

 

 

Conditions:  Sporting 

Venue: 3 tests in Ind + 3 in Aus 

[SRT100]

A better and more interesting thread would be could you field an Indian XI team that could take on and beat the named Indian XI tomorrow in the 2nd Test.

 

 

[zen]

1 hour ago, SRT100 said:

A better and more interesting thread would be could you field an Indian XI team that could take on and beat the named Indian XI tomorrow in the 2nd Test.

 

That's off-topic but to answer your question: From current players - "no"  (unless you think Ind has equivalent of Kohli-Pujara-Agarwal-Pant-Bumrah-Shami-Ishant in the reserves as you cannot pick these players again to beat the 11 they are already in)  

 

By keeping the above players as core in the 11, and changing other slots, maybe you could select a better team! 

 

 

Edited February 28, 2020 by zen

[zen]

Back to topic, intuitively, I had gone with Team A .... Objectively: 

 

Batting

 

Top Order: Gavaskar-Mankad-Pujara vs. Sehwag-Gambhir-Dravid

• Key opener: Gavaskar vs. Sehwag = Team A as Gavaskar holds the edge. Though Sehwag can be destructive
• 2nd opener: Mankad vs. Gambhir = Par. Mankad held a few records. He is one of the pioneering ARs. Gambhir can poke but can play well too
• Pujara vs. Dravid = Par. Pujara is a devil in India, while he won Ind a series in Aus. Dravid is solid and has won a test in Aus too

 

Result: Team A 

 

4-5

• Kohli vs. Tendulkar = Par, esp. in Ind and Aus
• Amarnath vs. Ganguly =  Team A

 

Result: Team A

 

6-7-8 

• Pant vs. Laxman = Team B
• Kapil vs. Dhoni = Par
• Ashwin vs. Kumble = Team A

 

Result: Par 

 

 

Batting: Team A (Gavaskar and Amarnath vs. Sehwag and Ganguly respectively. The remaining category was at par)

 

 

Bowling

 

• Pace: Bumrah-Shami-Kapil vs. Srinath-Zak = Team A
• Spin: Chandra-Ashwin-Mankad vs. Kumble-Bhajji = Team A

 

 

Bowling: Team A (Both pace and spin have depth. Chandra, along w/ Gupte, has the best avg overseas for an Indian spinner.)

 

 

Overall: Team A

Edited February 28, 2020 by zen

[Ankit_sharma03]

7 hours ago, zen said:

Conditions:  Sporting 

for whom ??? pacer or spinners or batsman ?

u hve to tell a venue even pitches good for pacers like SA, ENG are diff from each other

Edited February 28, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[zen]

7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

for whom ??? pacer or spinners or batsman ?

u hve to tell a venue even pitches good for pacers like SA, ENG are diff from each other

 Help for both batsmen and bowlers so no one is at a disadvantage and both have to play well to get desired results. 

 

Venues:  Dharamshala, A.bad (new stadium) and Kolkata .... Adelaide, Melbourne, and Perth 

 

The 12 for both teams are chosen so the teams have to play with that. 

 

 

[zen]

Team A has the edge .... Team B probably has more popular players. Many of them played together but could have underachieved as a team 

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 hours ago, zen said:

 Help for both batsmen and bowlers so no one is at a disadvantage and both have to play well to get desired results. 

 

Venues:  Dharamshala, A.bad (new stadium) and Kolkata .... Adelaide, Melbourne, and Perth 

 

The 12 for both teams are chosen so the teams have to play with that. 

 

 

Cricket is a game of condition 

Dharamshal n Kolkata vs Melbourne n Perth massive difference. Why would u pick kumble n bhajji if its melbourne or perth and even chandra n ashwin. No one will play 2 spinners 

For eg if its eden garden - pick rohit, azhar without a 2nd thought.....its where they become freaks

 

Conditons play a massive role in deciding who wins. Same ENG trashes us at home n we do same to them at our home. Atleast decide its a 3 match series in Indian conditions

Edited February 28, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[zen]

7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Cricket is a game of condition 

Dharamshal n Kolkata vs Melbourne n Perth massive difference. Why would u pick kumble n bhajji if its melbourne or perth and even chandra n ashwin. No one will play 2 spinners 

For eg if its eden garden - pick rohit, azhar without a 2nd thought.....its where they become freaks

Conditons play a massive role in deciding who wins. Same ENG trashes us at home n we do same to them at our home

Pathan is the 12th man so can be the 3rd seamer for Team B (1999-2009 team was not playing 4 seamers in general for e.g.. They will usually play Kumble) .... Team A has 3 seamers already (Bumrah-Shami-Kapil). But, Pandya can be the 4th seamer if required over one of the spinners (Ashwin for e.g.). There is Amaranth too. 

 

Keep it simple, buddy! Don't overcomplicate things in a hypothetical scenario. 

 

 

Edited February 28, 2020 by zen

[maniac]

No Vishy in pre- 90 team? Was more consistent than Amarnath.  Another name over Amarnath would be Vengsarkar.

 

pre-90s also another name that comes to

mind is Kris Srikkanth the original innovator of Attacking cricket while opening but he was very inconsistent so maybe Mankad but pretty sure there has to be other openers ahead of Mankad 

[zen]

 

24 minutes ago, maniac said:

No Vishy in pre- 90 team? Was more consistent than Amarnath.  Another name over Amarnath would be Vengsarkar.

Amarnath was phenomenal in Aus, Pak, and WI .... that edges him ahead .... Vishy is, of course, good too 

 

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pre-90s also another name that comes to

mind is Kris Srikkanth the original innovator of Attacking cricket while opening but he was very inconsistent so maybe Mankad but pretty sure there has to be other openers ahead of Mankad 

 

There was Vijay Merchant  ....  Mankad can bowl as well. He hit that 231 vs NZ and 184 in Eng.  Also picked up 8/52 and 8/55 vs. Pak and Eng respectively. Instrumental in giving Ind some of its early wins