Fans need to understand England approach will not work for Indian team.

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 minutes ago, maniac said:

you are not getting my point still

 

I am not saying give Pujara a T20 slot.

 

I am saying back players who are good enough to play in all 3 formats because those will be the real match winners. These “specialists”

will always be hit or miss. That’s the point I was making with the name of England’s core players I just gave. 

Dhawan was always consistent in ODI struggling in test same rohit

bevan ,

Butler bairstrow are in n out of test 

Malan not even in ODI team , but very consistent in t20 

 

Aisa koi rule nahin

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

In the main you are right but this approach can change if we suffer a bad defeat as a knee jerk reaction like we saw in the England odi series when the top 3 tried batting aggressively. In an important knockout game though there is next to no chance they play adventurous cricket. Infact kohli will probably stick to the 'safe' opening option he seems to think is the solution for the team because he feels someone has to bat through the innings which in itself is outdated thinking.

We arent champions n not playing to our potential shud be enough to change our approach

About safe approach in KO game, yea right as if that worked last 2 time

 

Yea we are playing outdated cricket that to when rules are so in favour of batsman

[rollingstoned]

9 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

we won the series didnt we?

 

Patience is important

yea we did, but like before the run up to the 2019 wc it's important you have your bases covered. we were winning a lot but everyone and their dog could have told you that that MO was going to be  problem in an important game and that was what happened. We fixed it but took 2 yrs to do so and didn't even pick the players we backed when the time came to select the squad.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, rollingstoned said:

yea we did, but like before the run up to the 2019 wc it's important you have your bases covered. we were winning a lot but everyone and their dog could have told you that that MO was going to be  problem in an important game and that was what happened. We fixed it but took 2 yrs to do so and didn't even pick the players we backed when the time came to select the squad.

all our bases are covered just need a have the right order and consistency with it . Only problem is too many options messes up with kohli. 

As far as players are concerned we have every skillset avl 

 

Now only 2 things matter - Clarity in plans and consistency (which i knw wnt happen)

[maniac]

11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Dhawan was always consistent in ODI struggling in test same rohit

bevan ,

Butler bairstrow are in n out of test 

Malan not even in ODI team , but very consistent in t20 

 

Aisa koi rule nahin

There is a reason why we got bowled out for 200 odd despite 3 batsmen getting run a ball 40-50’s.

 

SKY looked like a million bucks and got a great delivery but even for him or Pandya they won’t get better opportunities to score big 100’s in odis. Runs are runs. Shaw for me is a big let down, had he scored a 200 here he would have been the 1st backup in all LOI formats or even replace Dhawan. This isn’t ICF fantasy league. Runs and standout performances matter.

Edited July 24, 2021 by maniac

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

yea we did, but like before the run up to the 2019 wc it's important you have your bases covered. we were winning a lot but everyone and their dog could have told you that that MO was going to be  problem in an important game and that was what happened. We fixed it but took 2 yrs to do so and didn't even pick the players we backed when the time came to select the squad.

that's what the problem was.And we didn't really fix our problem vs swing.The batting order wasnt flexible.

 

We have good MO now.Should back this approach now

[rollingstoned]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

all our bases are covered just need a have the right order and consistency with it . Only problem is too many options messes up with kohli. 

As far as players are concerned we have every skillset avl 

 

Now only 2 things matter - Clarity in plans and consistency (which i knw wnt happen)

well i'd say getting the team and combination right is a pretty important base. That's the biggest fear with the TM that they will choose the wrong combination going into the t20 world cup. Isnt it? 

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 minutes ago, maniac said:

There is a reason why we got bowled out for 200 odd despite 3 batsmen getting run a ball 40-50’s.

 

ru saying we havent been bowled out with safe batting in our lives 

 

Quote

SKY looked like a million bucks and got a great delivery but even for him or Pandya they won’t get better opportunities to score big 100’s in odis. Runs are runs. Shaw for me is a big let down, had he scored a 200 here he would have been the 1st backup in all LOI formats or even replace Dhawan. This isn’t ICF fantasy league. Runs and standout performances matter.

everyone has gone through this , they all learned with time

 

200-100 , everything will come with time n experience. 10-10 ODI nahin khele shaw or sky expectation to dekho

 

 

Edited July 24, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03

[rollingstoned]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

that's what the problem was.And we didn't really fix our problem vs swing.The batting order wasnt flexible.

 

We have good MO now.Should back this approach now

Well the team did okay throught the tournament. the issue was with the approach in the 1 game we lost against England where we took too long to tee off - reason being given then was the weak MO - and the semi where we were a bit unlucky without being able to complain about the spicy conditions we got the following day. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

well i'd say getting the team and combination right is a pretty important base. That's the biggest fear with the TM that they will choose the wrong combination going into the t20 world cup. Isnt it? 

wo to nahin hoga and players will suffer coz players cant perform if they dont know their role or if they ll be on bench tomm or not 

usse aaj tak RCB nahin sought hui

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 minutes ago, maniac said:

even replace Dhawan. This isn’t ICF fantasy league. Runs and standout performances matter.

Even dhawan threw away his starts , we invested in dhawan n he became better with time. He also had his struggles 

Dhawan-Rohit-Kohli together are wasting 1st 25 over so one has to go and it has to be dhawan

 

Fanatsy league is a poor example coz in fantasy leagues players like dhawan or even babar are gold coz they score runs and impact dont matter but in real cricket impact matters. 

The diff between champion side and a side that comes 2nd is IMPACT

[Lord]

7 minutes ago, maniac said:

There is a reason why we got bowled out for 200 odd despite 3 batsmen getting run a ball 40-50’s.

 

SKY looked like a million bucks and got a great delivery but even for him or Pandya they won’t get better opportunities to score big 100’s in odis. Runs are runs. Shaw for me is a big let down, had he scored a 200 here he would have been the 1st backup in all LOI formats or even replace Dhawan. This isn’t ICF fantasy league. Runs and standout performances matter.

 

no one has scored an away 200 yet. There's a neutral 200 vs Zim only IIRC.

 

How many of our batsmen have scored hundreds in first 10 ODI let alone 200

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

no one has scored an away 200 yet. There's a neutral 200 vs Zim only IIRC.

 

How many of our batsmen have scored hundreds in first 10 ODI let alone 200

They won’t get more halwa teams than this was the point I am making. Should have cashed in.  Goes for Pandey,Pandya and Dhawan as well

Edited July 24, 2021 by maniac

[Lord]

Most of our 400+ totals have come with Sehwag blazing  away at the top.We need someone like that who can smash from get go and use powerplays.Rohit makes up in the end but is cautious upfront.

[Lord]

Just now, maniac said:

They won’t get more halwa teams than this was the point I am making. Should have cashed in. 

 

even halwa teams become more potent in thier home conditions.That's why there is no away 200 yet.

[Ankit_sharma03]

23/06/2007	Ireland	Civil Service Cricket Club		did not bat	-	-	-		0		-
2	26/06/2007	South Africa	Civil Service Cricket Club		b J H Kallis	8	9	88.89		8	8.00	88.89
3	05/10/2007	Australia	Rajiv Gandhi International Stadium		c B Lee b J R Hopes	1	4	25.00		9	4.50	69.23
4	18/11/2007	Pakistan	Sawai Mansingh Stadium	✓	c Yasir Hameed b Shoaib Malik	52	61	85.25		61	20.33	82.43
5	03/02/2008	Australia	Brisbane Cricket Ground	✓	c †A C Gilchrist b B Lee	29	43	67.44		90	22.50	76.92
6	04/02/2008	Sri Lanka	Brisbane Cricket Ground	✓	c †K C Sangakkara b M Muralitharan	0	2	0.00		90	18.00	75.63
7	10/02/2008	Australia	Melbourne Cricket Ground	✓	not out	39*	61	63.93		129	25.80	71.67
8	12/02/2008	Sri Lanka	Manuka Oval		not out	70*	64	109.38		199	39.80	81.56
9	17/02/2008	Australia	Adelaide Oval	✓	c †A C Gilchrist b J R Hopes	1	3	33.33		200	33.33	80.97
10	19/02/2008	Sri Lanka	Adelaide Oval	✓	c L P C Silva b M Muralitharan	24	36	66.67		224	32.00	79.15
11	24/02/2008	Australia	Sydney Cricket Ground	✓	c †A C Gilchrist b N W Bracken	1	3	33.33		225	28.13	78.67
12	26/02/2008	Sri Lanka	Bellerive Oval		not out	3*	7	42.86		228	28.50	77.82
13	02/03/2008	Australia	Sydney Cricket Ground	✓	b J R Hopes	66	87	75.86		294	32.67	77.37
14	04/03/2008	Australia	Brisbane Cricket Ground	✓	c A Symonds b M J Clarke	2	5	40.00		296	29.60	76.88
15	10/06/2008	Pakistan	Shere Bangla National Stadium	✓	b Shahid Afridi	9	27	33.33		305	27.73	74.03
16	12/06/2008	Bangladesh	Shere Bangla National Stadium	✓	c Mashrafe Mortaza b Abdur Razzak	26	43	60.47		331	27.58	72.75
17	14/06/2008	Pakistan	Shere Bangla National Stadium	✓	c sub b Umar Gul	24	27	88.89		355	27.31	73.65
18	25/06/2008	Hong Kong	National Stadium (Karachi)	✓	run out	11	29	37.93		366	26.14	71.62
19	26/06/2008	Pakistan	National Stadium (Karachi)	✓	not out	0*	1	0.00		366	26.14	71.48
20	28/06/2008	Bangladesh	National Stadium (Karachi)	✓	c Farhad Reza b Shahadat Hossain	22	23	95.65		388	25.87	72.52
21	02/07/2008	Pakistan	National Stadium (Karachi)	✓	c Abdur Rauf b Iftikhar Anjum	58	71	81.69		446	27.88	73.60
22	03/07/2008	Sri Lanka	National Stadium (Karachi)	✓	not out	22*	28	78.57		468	29.25	73.82
23	06/07/2008	Sri Lanka	National Stadium (Karachi)	✓	lbw b B A W Mendis	3	8	37.50		471	27.71	73.36
24	18/08/2008	Sri Lanka	Rangiri Dambulla International Stadium		c D P M D Jayawardene b T Thushara	19	31	61.29		490	27.22	72.81
25	20/08/2008	Sri Lanka	Rangiri Dambulla International Stadium		lbw b T Thushara	0	2	0.00		490	25.79	72.59
26	24/08/2008	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	c C K Kapugedera b T Thushara	32	32	100.00		522	26.10	73.83
27	27/08/2008	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	c B S M Warnapura b B A W Mendis	18	23	78.26		540	25.71	73.97
28	29/08/2008	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	lbw b K M D N Kulasekara	3	5	60.00		543	24.68	73.88
29	14/11/2008	England	Madhavrao Scindia Cricket Ground		not out	11*	8	137.50		554	25.18	74.56
30	17/11/2008	England	Holkar Cricket Stadium		c O A Shah b S C J Broad	3	13	23.08		557	24.22	73.68
31	20/11/2008	England	Green Park		c †M J Prior b G P Swann	28	41	68.29		585	24.38	73.40
32	26/11/2008	England	Barabati Stadium	✓	not out	8*	10	80.00		593	24.71	73.48
33	28/01/2009	Sri Lanka	Rangiri Dambulla International Stadium		not out	25*	30	83.33		618	25.75	73.84
34	05/02/2009	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	not out	4*	6	66.67		622	25.92	73.78
35	08/02/2009	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	c K M D N Kulasekara b M F Maharoof	15	22	68.18		637	25.48	73.64
36	11/03/2009	New Zealand	Seddon Park	✓	did not bat	-	-	-		637	25.48	73.64
37	14/03/2009	New Zealand	Eden Park	✓	not out	43*	74	58.11		680	27.20	72.42
38	26/06/2009	West Indies	Sabina Park		c D J J Bravo b L S Baker	4	12	33.33		684	26.31	71.92
39	28/06/2009	West Indies	Sabina Park		c R S Morton b R Rampaul	0	2	0.00		684	25.33	71.77
40	03/07/2009	West Indies	Daren Sammy National Cricket Stadium		c D E Bernard b D J J Bravo	11	9	122.22		695	24.82	72.25
41	05/07/2009	West Indies	Daren Sammy National Cricket Stadium		did not bat	-	-	-		695	24.82	72.25

 

 

@maniac Would you call this guy a cameo player

 

or him

 

Australia	Gymkhana Club Ground		c & b S Lee	84	80	105.00		84	84.00	105.00
3	13/10/2000	South Africa	Gymkhana Club Ground		c J N Rhodes b J H Kallis	41	35	117.14		125	62.50	108.70
4	15/10/2000	New Zealand	Gymkhana Club Ground		c R G Twose b S B Styris	18	19	94.74		143	47.67	106.72
5	20/10/2000	Sri Lanka	Sharjah Cricket Stadium	✓	b M Muralitharan	7	15	46.67		150	37.50	100.67
6	22/10/2000	Zimbabwe	Sharjah Cricket Stadium	✓	b T J Friend	34	39	87.18		184	36.80	97.87
7	26/10/2000	Zimbabwe	Sharjah Cricket Stadium	✓	c P A Strang b M Mbangwa	4	11	36.36		188	31.33	94.47
8	27/10/2000	Sri Lanka	Sharjah Cricket Stadium	✓	c T M Dilshan b M Muralitharan	7	17	41.18		195	27.86	90.28
9	29/10/2000	Sri Lanka	Sharjah Cricket Stadium	✓	c K C Sangakkara b W P U J C Vaas	3	8	37.50		198	24.75	88.39
10	02/12/2000	Zimbabwe	Barabati Stadium		lbw b B A Murphy	11	6	183.33		209	23.22	90.87
11	05/12/2000	Zimbabwe	Narendra Modi Stadium		c H H Streak b B A Murphy	17	16	106.25		226	22.60	91.87
12	08/12/2000	Zimbabwe	Barkatullah Khan Stadium		c & b G W Flower	5	16	31.25		231	21.00	88.17
13	14/12/2000	Zimbabwe	Madhavrao Scindia Cricket Ground		lbw b B A Murphy	29	23	126.09		260	21.67	91.23
14	06/04/2001	Australia	Nehru Stadium (Margao)		run out	19	21	90.48		279	21.46	91.18
15	20/07/2001	New Zealand	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	lbw b K D Mills	6	15	40.00		285	20.36	88.79
16	22/07/2001	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	c M Muralitharan b S A Perera	12	17	70.59		297	19.80	87.87
17	26/07/2001	New Zealand	R Premadasa Stadium		c †A C Parore b C Z Harris	28	51	54.90		325	20.31	83.55
18	28/07/2001	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium		did not bat	-	-	-		325	20.31	83.55
19	01/08/2001	Sri Lanka	Sinhalese Sports Club Ground		not out	98*	110	89.09		423	26.44	84.77
20	02/08/2001	New Zealand	Sinhalese Sports Club Ground		did not bat	-	-	-		423	26.44	84.77
21	05/08/2001	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	b R P Arnold	6	6	100.00		429	25.24	84.95
22	05/10/2001	South Africa	Wanderers Stadium	✓	c G Kirsten b L Klusener	14	18	77.78		443	24.61	84.70
23	10/10/2001	South Africa	SuperSport Park	✓	b M Ntini	42	55	76.36		485	25.53	83.91
24	12/10/2001	Kenya	Mangaung Oval	✓	did not bat	-	-	-		485	25.53	83.91
25	17/10/2001	Kenya	St George's Park	✓	b A O Suji	0	1	0.00		485	24.25	83.77
26	19/10/2001	South Africa	Buffalo Park	✓	lbw b L Klusener	3	8	37.50		488	23.24	83.13
27	24/10/2001	Kenya	Boland Park	✓	not out	10*	8	125.00		498	23.71	83.70
28	26/10/2001	South Africa	Kingsmead	✓	c S M Pollock b J M Kemp	0	2	0.00		498	22.64	83.42
29	16/03/2002	Zimbabwe	Lal Bahadur Shastri Stadium	✓	not out	80*	60	133.33		578	26.27	87.98
30	19/03/2002	Zimbabwe	Nehru Stadium (Guwahati)		c T J Friend b D A Marillier	75	52	144.23		653	28.39	92.10
31	29/05/2002	West Indies	Kensington Oval		did not bat	-	-	-		653	28.39	92.10
32	01/06/2002	West Indies	Queen's Park Oval		c †R D Jacobs b P T Collins	1	6	16.67		654	27.25	91.47
33	02/06/2002	West Indies	Queen's Park Oval		b C H Gayle	10	16	62.50		664	26.56	90.83
34	29/06/2002	England	Lord's		not out	64*	65	98.46		728	29.12	91.46
35	30/06/2002	Sri Lanka	Kennington Oval		c sub b C R D Fernando	31	44	70.45		759	29.19	90.36
36	04/07/2002	England	Riverside Ground	✓	not out	40*	19	210.53		799	30.73	93.02
37	06/07/2002	Sri Lanka	Edgbaston		c U D U Chandana b C R D Fernando	37	68	54.41		836	30.96	90.18
38	09/07/2002	England	Kennington Oval		st A J Stewart b R C Irani	5	13	38.46		841	30.04	89.47
39	11/07/2002	Sri Lanka	County Ground (Bristol)	✓	lbw b T T Samaraweera	8	11	72.73		849	29.28	89.27
40	13/07/2002	England	Lord's		c A J Tudor b P D Collingwood	69	63	109.52		918	30.60	90.53
41	14/09/2002	Zimbabwe	R Premadasa Stadium		c S M Ervine b D T Hondo	3	7	42.86		921	29.71	90.21
42	22/09/2002	England	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	did not bat	-	-	-		921	29.71	90.21
43	25/09/2002	South Africa	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	c H H Gibbs b S M Pollock	62	72	86.11		983	30.72	89.94
44	29/09/2002	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	did not bat	-	-	-		983	30.72	89.94
45	30/09/2002	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	did not bat	-	-	-		983	30.72	89.94
46	06/11/2002	West Indies	Keenan Stadium		c C H Gayle b C L Hooper	4	8	50.00		987	29.91	89.65
47	09/11/2002	West Indies	Vidarbha Cricket Association Ground		c S Chanderpaul b V C Drakes	1	2	50.00		988	29.06	89.57
48	12/11/2002	West Indies	Madhavrao Scindia Cricket Ground		did not bat	-	-	-		988	29.06	89.57
49	15/11/2002	West Indies	Narendra Modi Stadium		c C L Hooper b M V Dillon	30	30	100.00		1018	29.09	89.85
50	18/11/2002	West Indies	Reliance Stadium		c C L Hooper b C D Collymore	15	12	125.00		1033	28.69	90.22
51	21/11/2002	West Indies	Barkatullah Khan Stadium		c R L Powell b C D Collymore	54	64	84.38		1087	29.38	89.91
52	24/11/2002	West Indies	Indira Gandhi Stadium		b C H Gayle	68	69	98.55		1155	30.39	90.38
53	26/12/2002	New Zealand	Eden Park	✓	c N J Astle b J D P Oram	2	3	66.67		1157	29.67	90.32
54	29/12/2002	New Zealand	McLean Park		st B B McCullum b D L Vettori	0	2	0.00		1157	28.93	90.18
55	01/01/2003	New Zealand	AMI Stadium	✓	run out	12	44	27.27		1169	28.51	88.09
56	04/01/2003	New Zealand	Queenstown Events Centre		c D R Tuffey b S B Styris	25	61	40.98		1194	28.43	86.02
57	08/01/2003	New Zealand	Westpac Stadium	✓	c C Z Harris b D L Vettori	54	85	63.53		1248	29.02	84.73
58	11/01/2003	New Zealand	Eden Park	✓	c S P Fleming b C Z Harris	8	25	32.00		1256	28.55	83.85
59	14/01/2003	New Zealand	Seddon Park	✓	c L Vincent b S B Styris	33	58	56.90		1289	28.64	82.84
60	12/02/2003	Netherlands	Boland Park		c & b Adeel Raja	37	56	66.07		1326	28.83	82.26
61	15/02/2003	Australia	SuperSport Park		lbw b G D McGrath	0	8	0.00		1326	28.21	81.85
62	19/02/2003	Zimbabwe	Harare Sports Club		c †T Taibu b B A Murphy	1	5	20.00		1327	27.65	81.66
63	23/02/2003	Namibia	City Oval		not out	7*	7	100.00		1334	27.79	81.74
64	26/02/2003	England	Kingsmead	✓	c N Hussain b J M Anderson	42	38	110.53		1376	28.08	82.40
65	01/03/2003	Pakistan	SuperSport Park		not out	50*	53	94.34		1426	29.10	82.76
66	07/03/2003	Kenya	Newlands	✓	not out	58*	64	90.63		1484	30.29	83.04
67	10/03/2003	Sri Lanka	Wanderers Stadium		b W P U J C Vaas	5	6	83.33		1489	29.78	83.05
68	14/03/2003	New Zealand	SuperSport Park		did not bat	-	-	-		1489	29.78	83.05
69	20/03/2003	Kenya	Kingsmead	✓	c D O Obuya b T M Odoyo	16	10	160.00		1505	29.51	83.47
70	23/03/2003	Australia	Wanderers Stadium		c B Lee b G B Hogg	24

 

 

u know who they are and they both cudnt even make it to test teams 

 

by ur every logic these 2 guys are cameo players 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Pakistan	Jinnah Stadium (Gujwranwala)		c Wasim Akram b Waqar Younis	0	2	0.00		0	0.00	0.00
2	01/03/1990	New Zealand	Carisbrook		c & b S A Thomson	0	2	0.00		0	0.00	0.00
3	06/03/1990	New Zealand	Basin Reserve		c †I D S Smith b S A Thomson	36	39	92.31		36	12.00	83.72
4	25/04/1990	Sri Lanka	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		run out	10	12	83.33		46	11.50	83.64
5	27/04/1990	Pakistan	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		c Saeed Anwar b Imran Khan	20	25	80.00		66	13.20	82.50
6	18/07/1990	England	Headingley		b D E Malcolm	19	35	54.29		85	14.17	73.91
7	20/07/1990	England	Trent Bridge		b A R C Fraser	31	26	119.23		116	16.57	82.27
8	01/12/1990	Sri Lanka	Vidarbha Cricket Association Ground		b R J Ratnayake	36	22	163.64		152	19.00	93.25
9	05/12/1990	Sri Lanka	Nehru Stadium (Pune)		b G F Labrooy	53	41	129.27		205	22.78	100.49
10	08/12/1990	Sri Lanka	Nehru Stadium (Margao)		c & b S D Anurasiri	30	29	103.45		235	23.50	100.86
11	25/12/1990	Bangladesh	Sector 16 Stadium		did not bat	-	-	-		235	23.50	100.86
12	28/12/1990	Sri Lanka	Barabati Stadium		lbw b A Ranatunga	4	11	36.36		239	21.73	97.95
13	04/01/1991	Sri Lanka	Eden Gardens		lbw b R J Ratnayake	53	70	75.71		292	24.33	92.99
14	18/10/1991	Pakistan	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		not out	52*	40	130.00		344	28.67	97.18
15	19/10/1991	West Indies	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		run out	22	27	81.48		366	28.15	96.06
16	22/10/1991	West Indies	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		not out	11*	27	40.74		377	29.00	92.40
17	23/10/1991	Pakistan	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		c sub b Saleem Malik	49	38	128.95		426	30.43	95.52
18	25/10/1991	Pakistan	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		lbw b Aaqib Javed	0	1	0.00		426	28.40	95.30
19	10/11/1991	South Africa	Eden Gardens		c R P Snell b A A Donald	62	73	84.93		488	30.50	93.85
20	12/11/1991	South Africa	Captain Roop Singh Stadium		c †D J Richardson b C R Matthews	4	8	50.00		492	28.94	93.18
21	14/11/1991	South Africa	Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium (Delhi)	✓	c S J Cook b A A Donald	1	3	33.33		493	27.39	92.84
22	06/12/1991	West Indies	WACA Ground	✓	c R B Richardson b A C Cummins	1	9	11.11		494	26.00	91.48
23	08/12/1991	Australia	WACA Ground		c P L Taylor b T M Moody	36	65	55.38		530	26.50	87.60
24	10/12/1991	Australia	Bellerive Oval		c S R Waugh b P L Taylor	57	107	53.27		587	27.95	82.44
25	14/12/1991	West Indies	Adelaide Oval		c & b K L T Arthurton	48	57	84.21		635	28.86	82.57
26	15/12/1991	Australia	Adelaide Oval		c D M Jones b S R Waugh	21	35	60.00		656	28.52	81.59
27	11/01/1992	West Indies	Brisbane Cricket Ground		c sub b A C Cummins	77	127	60.63		733	30.54	78.73
28	14/01/1992	Australia	Sydney Cricket Ground	✓	run out	31	44	70.45		764	30.56	78.36
29	16/01/1992	West Indies	Melbourne Cricket Ground	✓	not out	57*	88	64.77		821	32.84	77.23
30	18/01/1992	Australia	Melbourne Cricket Ground	✓	c M R Whitney b T M Moody	4	10	40.00		825	31.73	76.89
31	20/01/1992	Australia	Sydney Cricket Ground	✓	c M R Whitney b S R Waugh	69	100	69.00		894	33.11	76.21
32	22/02/1992	England	WACA Ground	✓	c †A J Stewart b I T Botham	35	44	79.55		929	33.18	76.34
33	28/02/1992	Sri Lanka	Harrup Park		did not bat	-	-	-		929	33.18	76.34
34	01/03/1992	Australia	Brisbane Cricket Ground		c S R Waugh b T M Moody	11	19	57.89		940	32.41	76.05
35	04/03/1992	Pakistan	Sydney Cricket Ground	✓	not out	54*	62	87.10		994	34.28	76.58
36	07/03/1992	Zimbabwe	Seddon Park		c A D R Campbell b M G Burmester	81	77	105.19		1075	35.83	78.18
37	10/03/1992	West Indies	Basin Reserve		c †D Williams b C E L Ambrose	4	11	36.36		1079	34.81	77.85
38	12/03/1992	New Zealand	Carisbrook		c †I D S Smith b C Z Harris	84	107	78.50		1163	36.34	77.90
39	15/03/1992	South Africa	Adelaide Oval		c K C Wessels b A P Kuiper	14	14	100.00		1177	35.67	78.10
40	25/10/1992	Zimbabwe	Harare Sports Club		c D H Brain b G J Crocker	39	56	69.64		1216	35.76	77.80
41	07/12/1992	South Africa	Newlands	✓	b B M McMillan	15	27	55.56		1231	35.17	77.42
42	09/12/1992	South Africa	St George's Park	✓	c †D J Richardson b D J Callaghan	10	36	27.78		1241	34.47	76.32
43	11/12/1992	South Africa	SuperSport Park	✓	c †D J Richardson b C R Matthews	22	24	91.67		1263	34.14	76.55
44	13/12/1992	South Africa	Wanderers Stadium	✓	c B M McMillan b A A Donald	21	44	47.73		1284	33.79	75.80
45	15/12/1992	South Africa	Mangaung Oval	✓	b P S De Villiers	32	52	61.54		1316	33.74	75.37
46	17/12/1992	South Africa	Kingsmead	✓	c W J Cronje b M W Pringle	23	39	58.97		1339	33.48	75.01
47	19/12/1992	South Africa	Buffalo Park	✓	c †D J Richardson b C R Matthews	21	38	55.26		1360	33.17	74.60
48	18/01/1993	England	Sawai Mansingh Stadium		not out	82*	81	101.23		1442	35.17	75.74
49	21/01/1993	England	Sector 16 Stadium		lbw b P A J De Freitas	1	5	20.00		1443	34.36	75.59
50	26/02/1993	England	M Chinnaswamy Stadium		c G A Hick b C C Lewis	3	6	50.00		1446	33.63	75.51
51	01/03/1993	England	Keenan Stadium		b P W Jarvis	24	32	75.00		1470	33.41	75.50
52	04/03/1993	England	Captain Roop Singh Stadium		b P W Jarvis	5	6	83.33		1475	32.78	75.52
53	05/03/1993	England	Captain Roop Singh Stadium		c sub b C C Lewis	34	30	113.33		1509	32.80	76.10
54	19/03/1993	Zimbabwe	Nahar Singh Stadium		c & b G W Flower	3	9	33.33		1512	32.17	75.90
55	22/03/1993	Zimbabwe	Nehru Stadium (Guwahati)		not out	8*	6	133.33		1520	32.34	76.08
56	25/03/1993	Zimbabwe	Nehru Stadium (Pune)		did not bat	-	-	-		1520	32.34	76.08
57	25/07/1993	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium		c A P Gurusinha b S T Jayasuriya	21	39	53.85		1541	32.10	75.65
58	12/08/1993	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	run out	15	30	50.00		1556	31.76	75.28
59	14/08/1993	Sri Lanka	Tyronne Fernando Stadium		c M Muralitharan b S T Jayasuriya	25	39	64.10		1581	31.62	75.07
60	07/11/1993	Sri Lanka	Green Park		not out	26*	30	86.67		1607	32.14	75.23
61	16/11/1993	West Indies	Narendra Modi Stadium		lbw b C A Walsh	2	8	25.00		1609	31.55	75.05
62	18/11/1993	Zimbabwe	Nehru Stadium (Indore)		c & b H H Streak	24	16	150.00		1633	31.40	75.60
63	22/11/1993	South Africa	Punjab Cricket Association IS Bindra Stadium		c †D J Richardson b W J Cronje	3	25	12.00		1636	30.87	74.87
64	24/11/1993	South Africa	Eden Gardens	✓	c †D J Richardson b R P Snell	15	31	48.39		1651	30.57	74.50
65	27/11/1993	West Indies	Eden Gardens	✓	not out	28*	43	65.12		1679	31.09	74.32
66	15/02/1994	Sri Lanka	Madhavrao Scindia Cricket Ground		c A Ranatunga b R S Kalpage	1	5	20.00		1680	30.55	74.20
67	18/02/1994	Sri Lanka	Lal Bahadur Shastri Stadium		not out	11*	18	61.11		1691	30.75	74.10
68	20/02/1994	Sri Lanka	Gandhi Stadium		run out	52	63	82.54		1743	31.13	74.33
69	25/03/1994	New Zealand	McLean Park		c K R Rutherford b D J Nash	15	19	78.95		1758	30.84	74.37
70	27/03/1994	New Zealand	Eden Park		c & b M N Hart	82	49	167.35		1840	31.72	76.25
71	30/03/1994	New Zealand	Basin Reserve		lbw b G R Larsen	63	75	84.00		1903	32.25	76.49
72	02/04/1994	New Zealand	AMI Stadium		b G R Larsen	40	26	153.85		1943	32.38	77.29
73	13/04/1994	United Arab Emirates	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		c †Imtiaz Abbasi b Sultan Zarawani	63	77	81.82		2006	32.89	77.42
74	15/04/1994	Pakistan	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		c Basit Ali b Akram Raza	73	64	114.06		2079	33.53	78.31
75	19/04/1994	Australia	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		c M A Taylor b G D McGrath	6	7	85.71		2085	33.10	78.32
76	22/04/1994	Pakistan	Sharjah Cricket Stadium		c Aamir Sohail b Ata-Ur-Rehman	24	26	92.31		2109	32.95	78.46
77	04/09/1994	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	not out	11*	16	68.75		2120	33.13	78.40
78	05/09/1994	Sri Lanka	R Premadasa Stadium	✓	c H D P K Dharmasena b G P Wickramasinghe	6	5	120.00		2126	32.71	78.48

 

or wud u call this gentleman a cameo player @maniac

[prudent_kreeda]

5 hours ago, maniac said:

There is a reason why we got bowled out for 200 odd despite 3 batsmen getting run a ball 40-50’s.

 

SKY looked like a million bucks and got a great delivery but even for him or Pandya they won’t get better opportunities to score big 100’s in odis. Runs are runs. Shaw for me is a big let down, had he scored a 200 here he would have been the 1st backup in all LOI formats or even replace Dhawan. This isn’t ICF fantasy league. Runs and standout performances matter.

Do not think selectors /seniors who matter will use 100/200 as yardstick to be selected for back up role for players in early 20s.

Again what is the desperation that they should be in T20WC side . 

Let the current superstars show their mettle & win.  So far they have empty cupboard.  If they win , Good for them as hardly they have just 2 years left.

Even if we do badly in T20WC, only Dhawan will go. RO & VK will still be there for next T20WC.

Right now we need players with aggressive approach who can give us frequent 30-40s minimum with high strike rate  - One at the top & a couple in MO with Rohit & Kohli carrying the anchorman roles cos  RO & VK will not go anywhere. 

Fact is these youngsters go for shots rather than accumulate & become stats boosters. If they do  that they will also start getting few big scores

and will forget about wins . This is the problem with current stars and this should end first up.

The situation right now with India team is that we have 3 accumulators at the top who are not going to go away till 2023 WC. So the onus is on these new guys to play aggressively while stars will do stat padding!. 

Just look at the pattern from the past - 

1. Tendulkar ATG player took few years to blossom but super talent was visible from the beginning.

2.  Yuvi - after initial burst took almost 3-4 years to start delivering 

3.  Butler, Bairsow,Stokes all took almost 4-5 years .

4. Rohit - took 5 years 

5. babar -  almost 4 years 

6. Pooran - Big talent  but still not delivering.

Same pattern will happen in India also . That should be the expectation. Out of 5-6 guys , may be 2-3 may come good . that is the probability. 

 

 

[maniac]

I will say it for the zillionth time we do not have a lower or lower middle order for our top order to play rashly or irresponsibly.
 

Thank Dhawan and a very mature/responsible knock from Sky today 

[Bread_Pitt]

31 minutes ago, maniac said:

I will say it for the zillionth time we do not have a lower or lower middle order for our top order to play rashly or irresponsibly.
 

Thank Dhawan and a very mature/responsible knock from Sky today 

Whar are you talking about. 

We have d second coming of kapil and klusener in pandya brothers.