Looks fast Feels Faster - for fast bowling fans

[First class]

On 12/7/2021 at 12:51 AM, express bowling said:

The article states that Bumah gives the effect of bowling 3.7 mph or 6 kph faster than what speed guns show ... because he releases the ball 0.5 yard into the bowling crease. 

 

 

 @Mosher, @Suhaan

Yes, when Burmah bowls at 138-140 kph, batsman looks unsettled , frequently , not so much when Sharma bowls at the same pace.

[Vijy]

14 hours ago, First class said:

Yes, when Burmah bowls at 138-140 kph, batsman looks unsettled , frequently , not so much when Sharma bowls at the same pace.

if boom could hit mid 150s like Umran Malik can (in future), it would be quite scary. and indeed, when boom reached high 140s occasionally, some of those balls were deadly.

Edited December 12, 2021 by Vijy

[Jay]

3 minutes ago, Vijy said:

if boom could hit mid 150s like Umran Malik can (in future), it would be quite scary. and indeed, when boom reached high 140s occasionally, some of those balls were deadly.

yes his balls are 6 kmph faster due to the shortened distance from the crease as he launches the ball forward like a catapult. 

 

ishant at 140 just feels like any other regular 140 that comes onto the bat nicely. You need zip and bounce with speed to be effective. 

ishant's issue is his messed up action. he doesnt quite use his entire body to generate pace. biomechanically his form is incorrect. His follow through is almost non existent. 

[rkt.india]

53 minutes ago, Jay said:

yes his balls are 6 kmph faster due to the shortened distance from the crease as he launches the ball forward like a catapult. 

 

ishant at 140 just feels like any other regular 140 that comes onto the bat nicely. You need zip and bounce with speed to be effective. 

ishant's issue is his messed up action. he doesnt quite use his entire body to generate pace. biomechanically his form is incorrect. His follow through is almost non existent. 

TBH, I don't yet believe in this releasing the ball late thing of Bumrah. Need more evidence, more footage comparison with other bowlers. Because release point depends on the length.

 

Look at Jofra here. Even he is releasing the ball from ahead. Difference in fuller and shorter length release. Shorter length release will be late making you deliver the ball from forward position and full length will be early.

 

Woakes similar too.

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by rkt.india

[express bowling]

56 minutes ago, Vijy said:

if boom could hit mid 150s like Umran Malik can (in future), it would be quite scary. and indeed, when boom reached high 140s occasionally, some of those balls were deadly.

 

 

Bumrah was regularly bowling 138 kph to 148 kph from 2017 to 2020. And occasionally touching 150 kph too till 2019.

 

Those 4 years he looked scary quick. 

 

I hope he can get back to those speeds from 2022 onwards as bubble norms relax. 

 

Nowadays he is mostly 135 k to 145 k/146 k ... probably due to bubble fatigue. 

 

 

[Jay]

29 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

TBH, I don't yet believe in this releasing the ball late thing of Bumrah. Need more evidence, more footage comparison with other bowlers. Because release point depends on the length.

 

Look at Jofra here. Even he is releasing the ball from ahead. Difference in fuller and shorter length release. Shorter length release will be late making you deliver the ball from forward position and full length will be early.

 

Woakes similar too.

 

Not even close. 

 

look at that release point. 48 cm off crease. 

 

Cummins was 18.

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Bumrah was regularly bowling 138 kph to 148 kph from 2017 to 2020. And occasionally touching 150 kph too till 2019.

 

Those 4 years he looked scary quick. 

 

I hope he can get back to those speeds from 2022 onwards as bubble norms relax. 

 

Nowadays he is mostly 135 k to 145 k/146 k ... probably due to bubble fatigue. 

 

 

yes, his avg pace is down by 3-4 k at the min. hoping that he can crank it up again, but I am not that optimistic for now

[rkt.india]

45 minutes ago, Jay said:

Not even close. 

 

look at that release point. 48 cm off crease. 

 

Cummins was 18.

It's not as simple as they are making it out. Release point depends on several aspects. Every ball will have a different release point because of different lengths. We need to compare the lengths too, not just release points.

[Jay]

8 hours ago, rkt.india said:

It's not as simple as they are making it out. Release point depends on several aspects. Every ball will have a different release point because of different lengths. We need to compare the lengths too, not just release points.

Could be. I did think it was an attempt to undermine bumrah's ability. Feels like they wanted to highlight the ability to use the entire crease as the only attribute that makes him more deadly. Almost like a coping mechanism because they got their butts handed to them. Aussies I.e.

Edited December 13, 2021 by Jay

[First class]

7 hours ago, Jay said:

yes his balls are 6 kmph faster due to the shortened distance from the crease as he launches the ball forward like a catapult. 

 

ishant at 140 just feels like any other regular 140 that comes onto the bat nicely. You need zip and bounce with speed to be effective. 

ishant's issue is his messed up action. he doesnt quite use his entire body to generate pace. biomechanically his form is incorrect. His follow through is almost non existent. 

In coming days , more aspects of Buhmra's unorthodox action will be revealed and the reasons behind his success. One if a kind bowler with a unique action.