Muloghonto Posted January 7, 2024 Posted January 7, 2024 On 12/30/2023 at 3:11 AM, rangeelaraja said: Bharat is in it's own sphere. Also it is stupid to think that India can be in the "sphere" of a country like Russia whose economy is only 45 % of India's size. In 10 years, India's economy will be atleast 5X Russia's size. India made a massive mistake in the Soviet era of being ENTIRELY pro-Soviet - and not being friendly with the West ( we did not want to upset USSR) The result was we were a sanctioned economy that was also closed. Now we understand foreign policy, diplomacy much better - what we are doing is the best approach - be friendly with all - and extract mutual benefits from all. Keeping old friendships that have helped India in time of dire need and cultivate new friendships that are both value based & need based & transactional. If it wasn't was the erstwhile USSR/ Russia - Pakistan would have been on east borders as well along with China and our NE frontier would have been 100 times more vulnerable to being cut off by the force combine of China and Pakistan. Everybody knows it was USSR that prevented a global attack on India during the 1971 war. They tend to have long memories and stay faithful to their friendships through thick and thin. It isnt India's mistake that India wasn't pro-west. Its west's mistake that west wasn't pro-india and backed pakistan from the get-go. This is because the west has always seen India as a competitor, to be put down rather than aided.
Muloghonto Posted January 7, 2024 Posted January 7, 2024 On 1/5/2024 at 6:13 AM, Lannister said: It's a no-brainer. Putin is expected to align with China for his own survival, and China depends on him to counter the US. They need eachother. India's scenario only seems plausible if it undergoes a shift toward autocracy, and the RSS seeks complete control over the country. hindu autocracy is far better than leftist autocracy, who are bigger killers and genociders than even islamists in the last century.
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 8, 2024 Posted January 8, 2024 20 hours ago, Muloghonto said: hindu autocracy is far better than leftist autocracy, who are bigger killers and genociders than even islamists in the last century. But, no autocracy if far better than any autocracy, and that is what we must strive toward.
Muloghonto Posted January 8, 2024 Posted January 8, 2024 6 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: But, no autocracy if far better than any autocracy, and that is what we must strive toward. I have zero time for this type of throwaway dogmatism, especially one that is so simplistically binary. I can easily argue that autocracy under enlightened rulers who have the best interests of their subjects at heart is far better than autocracy of a schizophrenic tyrant who thinks his subjects are sinners and apostates who need to be brought to light else suffer.
coffee_rules Posted January 9, 2024 Posted January 9, 2024 15 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Straightforward. This seems satire, but kind of true.
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 9, 2024 Posted January 9, 2024 (edited) On 1/8/2024 at 4:49 PM, Muloghonto said: I have zero time for this type of throwaway dogmatism, especially one that is so simplistically binary. I can easily argue that autocracy under enlightened rulers who have the best interests of their subjects at heart is far better than autocracy of a schizophrenic tyrant who thinks his subjects are sinners and apostates who need to be brought to light else suffer. I can see how the "best" authoritarian leader has a chance of being better than the "worst" democratically elected leader who does not care for his/her people, but as a general rule, I feel that autocracy can only lead to worse outcomes than that of leaders elected via a democratic process. I know your time is precious but honestly, I learn a lot from these interactions, so if you have time, could you expound a bit on your position when you have some time? Some examples of autocrats who have succeeded in helping a nation's subjects progress would help me understand as well. Thanks! Edited January 11, 2024 by BacktoCricaddict
ravishingravi Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 OP :) On the contrary looks like, India will double down on Russia and China. Amreeka can create mess for us in our region, but no matter bjp or congress, this is certain. India will not be an ally. India will continue to walk on razor's edge. mishra 1
ravishingravi Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 On 9/10/2022 at 7:02 PM, cowboysfan said: I predict Putin will not survive the crushing defeat coming Russias way.anybody associated with his genocidal regime will have a bad time in the coming months.best to completely cut of all relations till things have cooled down. Hasn't dated well I dare say. It happens when one social, cultural or geo political events from one's biases. Things we learnt from 2022. 1) Russia is gaining ground every day in Ukraine 2) Putin is going to stay in position as long as he is alive 3) Sanctions won't work. Russia GDP is still 2 trillion dollars.Capturing Russians assets abroad has infact weakened trust on USD leading to further cluster around non west. 4) Western Europe which is US vassal state was in decline and now is in collapse without Russian gas 5) India has chance to negotiate exclusive oil/ rare resource deals with Russia as Russia tilts towards east. 6) Trump is coming back possibly. So America is going to withdraw further. Even better for non west. If Kamala comes, US collapses internally while establishment is engaged externally. mishra 1
mishra Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 (edited) Russians has been allways a positive impact on India and gone extra mile to protect Indian sovereignity and always got us peace. When crisis on LAC errupted, SOme of us including myself doubted if Russians allready knew and intentionally messaged us that 2020 Chinese military excercise was only for war game. Seems like they were honest when they said their intelligence was bad on this. Why? When Modi visited Putin last time, Media was saying that India is trying to bring Peace between Russia and Ukraine, What I felt and opined was what Media is saying is correct and India is honestly trying to broker peace between two nations but at the same time, Russians are also brokering Peace between India and China. The confidence and body language in response by our FM says a lot Edited October 22, 2024 by mishra Vicks57 1
mishra Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 (edited) On 1/9/2024 at 8:12 PM, BacktoCricaddict said: I can see how the "best" authoritarian leader has a chance of being better than the "worst" democratically elected leader who does not care for his/her people, but as a general rule, I feel that autocracy can only lead to worse outcomes than that of leaders elected via a democratic process. I know your time is precious but honestly, I learn a lot from these interactions, so if you have time, could you expound a bit on your position when you have some time? Some examples of autocrats who have succeeded in helping a nation's subjects progress would help me understand as well. Thanks! Think you are talking about process to reach at top and confused if Democratic process is better vs autocratic/communist/monarchy/religious/family rule process. At the end of day, when someone is at top irrespective of which path (Democratic or autocratic) took him there, what matters is "his intentions and his upbringing". Example: Different region has different culture and process. For example USA/West has no risk of Mosque dictating Democractic process as their culture and religion isnt guided by Islam in such local compulsions, its safe to say MBS is Best thing to happen in Saudi people's History Edited October 22, 2024 by mishra someone 1
ravishingravi Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 Not going to happen ever. Couldn't have been more clear message to US deep state randomGuy 1
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