Lone Wolf Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I just hope we don't play Bharat... He must be one of the worst wk batters we have rn in India. He was struggling to keep wickets vs pace & spin both in India. I would have taken Sanju Samson over him anyday of the week. Australia has Carey & we have this dud lol Same Indian eggsperts who backed DK the bottler in WT20 are backing him lol Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Pujara better step up. If he fails then he should be dropped without anymore chances based on his B division bashing in England. That is how he snuck back scored a 100 on a flat road won a MOM undeservingly and failed in the next test on a challenging surface Link to comment
Lord Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: I just hope we don't play Bharat... He must be one of the worst wk batters we have rn in India. He was struggling to keep wickets vs pace & spin both in India. I would have taken Sanju Samson over him anyday of the week. Australia has Carey & we have this dud lol Same Indian eggsperts who backed DK the bottler in WT20 are backing him lol Would have been KL but now both him and Kishan are similar. Saha would have been a best choice still. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lord said: Would have been KL but now both him and Kishan are similar. Saha would have been a best choice still. Should have let Saha and Gill open and go afte rbowling :) Who are we kidding. There is no hiding from the fact that we will miss Rishab Pant hugely. Lord 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Should have let Saha and Gill open and go afte rbowling :) Who are we kidding. There is no hiding from the fact that we will miss Rishab Pant hugely. Wk don't open in Tests... Especially when they finish keeping for 90 odd overs & then bat straightaway... It's unrealistic. They can try it only when they opt to bat first in only 1st inns. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Lord said: Would have been KL but now both him and Kishan are similar. Saha would have been a best choice still. KL the keeper would be perfect but out of Bharat & Kishan.. I'd take Kishan. At least he is coming off playing high intensity cricket & is a actual left hander who can take advantage of a older ball in Flat Oval conditions. Punter also has said he would pick Kishan I guess to rattle Aussies with a X factor pick. Edited May 30, 2023 by Lone Wolf Link to comment
Lord Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: KL the keeper would be perfect but out of Bharat & Kishan.. I'd take Kishan. At least he is coming off playing high intensity cricket & is a actual left hander who can take advantage of a older ball in Flat Oval conditions. Punter also has said he would pick Kishan I guess to rattle Aussies with a X factor pick. Kishan is even worse keeper and can't play swing or spin. Not sure he can see off a tough spell too without trying something fancy. Only advantage is he's a left hander but then Lyon would be tough for him. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Wk don't open in Tests... Especially when they finish keeping for 90 odd overs & then bat straightaway... It's unrealistic. They can try it only when they opt to bat first in only 1st inns. I was just joking based on their partnership in IPL. Gill & Saha. It is a travesty that nobody is in the league of Pant remotely. If India wants to mask the batting weakness and tailender weakness they have no choice but to go with a better batsman especially when the designated specialist wicket keeper is no better than a part time keeper. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Lord said: Kishan is even worse keeper and can't play swing or spin. Not sure he can see off a tough spell too without trying something fancy. Only advantage is he's a left hander but then Lyon would be tough for him. He has to be used strategically. Mostly low down the order with nothing to lose situation or just to give company to guys like Jadeja. Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Lord said: Kishan is even worse keeper and can't play swing or spin. Not sure he can see off a tough spell too without trying something fancy. Only advantage is he's a left hander but then Lyon would be tough for him. Has kept very well in IPl... And is steadily improving. Keeping on raging turners is tough than against pacers which i s considered to be much easier but a rookie Pant did alright during his first Eng tour. Kishan is better gloveman than that 2018 version of Pant. I am with Punter on this one... Kishan v Bharat there is only one way we have a shot vs Aussies. Link to comment
Lord Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He has to be used strategically. Mostly low down the order with nothing to lose situation or just to give company to guys like Jadeja. most likely he will be required to arrest a collapse and build a partnership. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lord said: most likely he will be required to arrest a collapse and build a partnership. I don't think we have anyone like that in India. But Kishan can fluke an innings hopefully. atleast one innings Lord and Lone Wolf 1 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Has kept very well in IPl... And is steadily improving. Keeping on raging turners is tough than against pacers which i s considered to be much easier but a rookie Pant did alright during his first Eng tour. Kishan is better gloveman than that 2018 version of Pant. I am with Punter on this one... Kishan v Bharat there is only one way we have a shot vs Aussies. I have a feeling he will turn into Akmal behind the wickets. Pant in 2018 was superfit and quick to react...I doubt Kishan is that flexible. Edited May 30, 2023 by singhvivek141 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Selectors have to assemble top 10 keepers from India and do an evaluation. They have to adopt new selection strategy. Right now they are doing a cop out. They just pick straight from IPL. Any monkey can do this kind of selection. You don't need to pay lakhs of rupees for selection like this. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 54 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: I have a feeling he will turn into Akmal behind the wickets. Pant in 2018 was superfit and quick to react...I doubt Kishan is that flexible. Kishan is quite fit... His ground fielding is in a completely different universe compared to Pant. Bharat looks like a average keeper from whatever I saw in India. Pant even in his rookie days wasn't this bad. Plus his batting technique is dodgy with that front pad coming ahead of his bat. Prime LBW/Bowled candidate. Kishan is loose but I am not expecting much of a swing in Oval... It will be more hit the deck stuff.. And Kishan loves that sorta bowling as he has destroyed Nortje in the past. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 These one off tests with little to no build up require bold calls imo.... You can't go with a set plan & be too rigid. It's all about handling pressure & having nerves of steel. Team with more clutch players will win it. Pant is a huge miss. Even Pandya to an extent. This is different from a series. Both sides aren't battle hardened though Aussies are better prepared but nothing like NZ back in 2020 when they had a full series before the final. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Jaiswal and Rohit together on the flight. Not sure what the conversation would have been. So happy for the dude. He just broke the door down. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: These one off tests with little to no build up require bold calls imo.... You can't go with a set plan & be too rigid. It's all about handling pressure & having nerves of steel. Team with more clutch players will win it. Pant is a huge miss. Even Pandya to an extent. This is different from a series. Both sides aren't battle hardened though Aussies are better prepared but nothing like NZ back in 2020 when they had a full series before the final. Pujara had all the acclimitization. He better deliver. Not the 120 ball 35 runs. He has to bat long and score as well. Lone Wolf and Lord 1 1 Link to comment
AKane Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Pujara had all the acclimitization. He better deliver. Not the 120 ball 35 runs. He has to bat long and score as well. Michael Neser bowling to Pujara in County match a few days back - now admittedly this is not the same class as the exhilarating IPL..... so its kind of boring. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, AKane said: Michael Neser bowling to Pujara in County match a few days back - now admittedly this is not the same class as the exhilarating IPL..... so its kind of boring. Govinda Govinda. If he plays like this he is not going to survive. He is clearly late on almost each ball. Link to comment
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