The Ashes 2023

[wazza]

11 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Australian attack is not some run of the mill attack. IMO they are still the best fast bowling attack in the world. To score 600 runs in 107 overs against them is just crazy.

No they aren't. They have one good bowler. That's it. It'd our piss poor weak batting that managed to make them look better better than they are in the finals. 

[putrevus]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

 

Yup. Well rounded attack. Overall India is also better. England can own Australia in Australia as well.  But England can never do that in India.

Let us wait till they lose in India before we make that statement. If England play 50 overs they will score 200 plus even on bunsen burners with this approach.

 

Indian attack with Bumrah leaked over 6 runs in over unable to defend 373 .

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, wazza said:

No they aren't. They have one good bowler. That's it. It'd our piss poor weak batting that managed to make them look better better than they are in the finals. 

boland is a handful in helpful conditions. it's just that he got flat tracks vs Eng

[wazza]

11 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Still they are better than any team's attack.I would take them over any teams current fast bowling attack. If they are this bad against England's batting imagine the plight of other teams. 

You overrated them way too much. This is a nothing attack compared to West Indians of 80s. 

 

They are not even the best now. 

 

India were till 2022. Now it's actually south africa. 

 

Besides they have like I Said one great bowler. That's it. One

 

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, wazza said:

No they aren't. They have one good bowler. That's it. It'd our piss poor weak batting that managed to make them look better better than they are in the finals. 

 

Yup. They failed to dislodge Injured Vihari and Injured Ashwin for 43 overs with their full strength side in their home turf.

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

What lack of pace. He can bowl when he wants to. He was clocking 140k easily in NZ. The bounce he generates is insane

He is a trundler at best. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

Let us wait till they lose in India before we make that statement. If England play 50 overs they will score 200 plus even on bunsen burners with this approach.

 

Indian attack with Bumrah leaked over 6 runs in over unable to defend 373 .

 

They did fail in challenging conditions against SA. Got rolled over.

[putrevus]

Just now, wazza said:

You overrated them way too much. This is a nothing attack compared to West Indians of 80s. 

 

They are not even the best now. 

 

India were till 2022. Now it's actually south africa. 

 

Besides they have like I Said one great bowler. That's it. One

 

I never said they are better than WI of 1980s. They are the best fast bowling attack currently.

[wazza]

4 minutes ago, Vijy said:

boland is a handful in helpful conditions. it's just that he got flat tracks vs Eng

Against weak player slide our batting. If pant sundar and jaiswal played, his aukaad would have been highlighted.

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Yup. They failed to dislodge Injured Vihari and Injured Ashwin for 43 overs with their full strength side in their home turf.

and they were looking so solid that they could have batted for another 30-40 overs

[MechEng]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Yup. Well rounded attack. Overall India is also better. England can own Australia in Australia as well.  But England can never do that in India.

 

Even Peepee junta thought that they are invincible at home and that is why sides are scared of touring their country (before Aus and Eng toured there and won easily).

 

Bhai, Australia mein jeetna sabke bas ki baat nahin, let England dominate Aus bowlers on bouncy wickets first then let's see.

[vvvslaxman]

Australian attack relies on discipline. If you knock them off their discipline they will have nowhere to run. Seen it time and again. There is ar eason why Australia has lost 4 test series in a row against Indai despite India having piss poor batting line up

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

They did fail in challenging conditions against SA. Got rolled over.

Who got rolled over?

[Vijy]

Just now, wazza said:

Against weak player slide our batting. If pant sundar and jaiswal played, his aukaad would have been highlighted.

he bullied the Eng too at home; some of the same batters there. it depends more on the pitch

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Vijy said:

and they were looking so solid that they could have batted for another 30-40 overs

 

With bit more time India could have won that test as well lol

[wazza]

10 minutes ago, putrevus said:

No I don't think so, Jansen will be bullied for his lack of pace. Maharaj will tonked out of the attack.

 

Variety is not important over quality .

Jansen bowkes faster than hazlewood and on par with Cummins. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

Who got rolled over?

 

England

[wazza]

6 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I never said they are better than WI of 1980s. They are the best fast bowling attack currently.

Currently still questionable. I would still say SA right now. 

 

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, wazza said:

Jansen bowkes faster than hazlewood and on par with Cummins. 

 

As a 20 year old bowling easily at 85 mph One of the ball was 89 mph

 

 

Edited July 21, 2023 by vvvslaxman

[putrevus]

Just now, MechEng said:

 

Even Peepee junta thought that they are invincible at home and that is why sides are scared of touring their country (before Aus and Eng toured there and won easily).

 

Bhai, Australia mein jeetna sabke bas ki baat nahin, let England dominate Aus bowlers on bouncy wickets first then let's see.

Bhai The same Australian team won one test in Pakistan where as England batted the same Pakistani team into submission and won all three tests.

 

This England batting is on another level, I really thought Australian attack would be good enough to overcome them .If you hear Ponting you see the pride Australian admitting what this bazball has done is unheard off.