BacktoCricaddict Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Stunning to say the least. Chilling. I simply cannot fathom how any one at any time can justify that level of destruction. Anyone who is trying to justify it is just fooling themselves. Most stunning is how the Japanese nation literally rose from the ashes to become a world leader in technology. ravishingravi, Vijy and coffee_rules 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Chilling. I simply cannot fathom how any one at any time can justify that level of destruction. Anyone who is trying to justify it is just fooling themselves. Most stunning is how the Japanese nation literally rose from the ashes to become a world leader in technology. not about fooling themselves. it was a well-directed campaign by the US to market the narrative that Japan would have never surrendered, blah blah. coffee_rules, Lone Wolf and ravishingravi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Lord said: yep, feminists are even guilt tripping men for choosing to watch Oppenheimer So Statesmanesque… we ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 On 7/26/2023 at 12:34 PM, Lone Wolf said: Japanese Animation japanese animation is no holds barred, especially even when making so-called kids stuff Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Vijy said: not about fooling themselves. it was a well-directed campaign by the US to market the narrative that Japan would have never surrendered, blah blah. I had seen a veteran interview about WW2 and he totally justified the bombing. He said that seeing all the devastation it caused, he would still decide to bomb to avoid all the US deaths that an extended war would have caused. Chilling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: I had seen a veteran interview about WW2 and he totally justified the bombing. He said that seeing all the devastation it caused, he would still decide to bomb to avoid all the US deaths that an extended war would have caused. Chilling! the US propaganda machine went into full action, and of course many subscribed to that worldview fully, especially vets Lone Wolf and coffee_rules 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Vijy said: the US propaganda machine went into full action, and of course many subscribed to that worldview fully, especially vets Attack on Pearl Harbor which was a full fledged military base was earlier said to be cause of all this... Then when they had no answer to justify killing of innocent Japanese civilians.. The propaganda of means to an end was started. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Vijy said: not about fooling themselves. it was a well-directed campaign by the US to market the narrative that Japan would have never surrendered, blah blah. Yup they were itching to test the bomb. It was also about establishing dominance in new global order. Vijy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Attack on Pearl Harbor which was a full fledged military base was earlier said to be cause of all this... Then when they had no answer to justify killing of innocent Japanese civilians.. The propaganda of means to an end was started. yes, US propaganda machine is fearsome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) On 7/27/2023 at 6:09 PM, BacktoCricaddict said: Chilling. I simply cannot fathom how any one at any time can justify that level of destruction. Anyone who is trying to justify it is just fooling themselves. Most stunning is how the Japanese nation literally rose from the ashes to become a world leader in technology. The more I read about this, the more I am amazed. After the defeat of Germans, to have dropped the bomb on hapless japanese right in the middle of the city to inflict maximum damage. It was a message to the world on new world order. Power is about capacity to create fear and influence. What better way to bomb the daylights out of the country and then get your private contractors to rebuild it. And then to try the opposition in Nuremberg on the war crimes. https://twitter.com/Chellaney/status/1687714419168481281?t=F2Jldmvr7prcdbzvCRjoeg&s=19 Edited August 6, 2023 by ravishingravi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Saw the movie yesterday. On first viewing, it's perhaps the best movie I saw about a scientist or scientific mind at work and wonder. But the transition of the scientist to the politician and then congressional hearings was rather patchy in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Only major downside to Oppenheimer is the inconsistency in tone. Also I found no connect with any of the characters which could mean that Nolan was biting lot more than he can chew. Perhaps if the movie ended at Nuclear test or Hiroshima it could have been enough. Cilian Murphy was phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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