randomGuy Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: Olympics is several notches above Asian Games or Commonwealth Games. Many many countries much below in the tally than us in Asian Games or Commonwealth end always end up winning many more medals than us in Olympics. If we can cross double digits in next Olympics ( which we have never done in our history ) - it would be a bigger achievement than 100 medals here at the Asian Games. We need to be near unbeatable in 3-4 target sports at Olympics level. We should have world class athletes in numbers...the operative part is 'in numbers'...the larger the pool, the more the number of medals. For ex Neeraj chopra is world class but not unbeatable....
deathmonger Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: Olympics is several notches above Asian Games or Commonwealth Games. Many many countries much below in the tally than us in Asian Games or Commonwealth end always end up winning many more medals than us in Olympics. If we can cross double digits in next Olympics ( which we have never done in our history ) - it would be a bigger achievement than 100 medals here at the Asian Games. We need to be near unbeatable in 3-4 target sports at Olympics level. these 3-4 target sports have to be shooting, wrestling (especially female as that has good results in cadet/juniors), boxing (female especially), athletics (lots of events - if we can have neeraj chopra like domination in 4-5 that is enough). badminton hockey etc too but not that many medals from those. 2024 can be: shooting 0-3 (quality wise they are really good and even defeat olympic champions in other competitions but have choked twice now) javelin 1-2 (neeraj will surely win a medal even if not gold unless something drastic happens. let's see how jena shapes up) boxing 0-3 (mostly lovlina nikhat and maybe someone else bronze like lovlina last time) wrestling 1-3 (have always won one so adding. antim is really good and should get a bronze at least. bajrang is good for a bronze too.) hockey 0-1 (dont see the men's winning the gold tbh but should be good contenders for bronze) badminton 0-2 (lakshya and men's doubles) weightlifting 0-1 (mirabai) so ideally should be around 9-10. we have had some surprises like lovlina and sakshi malik so can be some in 2024 too.
deathmonger Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, randomGuy said: We should have world class athletes in numbers...the operative part is 'in numbers'...the larger the pool, the more the number of medals. For ex Neeraj chopra is world class but not unbeatable.... yeah. it should be more like domination of a particular field. like chinese in badminton. they might not be the best at every one of the disciplines at the same time but they will be at a few.
deathmonger Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Going above Iran should be number 1 priority in Paris. We have to move past them. For that we need minimum 4 gold medals.. tough though. some of their wrestlers are sure shot golds. the only way we'll win 4 is neeraj nikhat men's doubles some shooting and even these aren't guaranteed. wrestling is the most non-upset friendly sport there is. Edited October 4, 2023 by deathmonger rollingstoned 1
bharathh Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, deathmonger said: yeah. it should be more like domination of a particular field. like chinese in badminton. they might not be the best at every one of the disciplines at the same time but they will be at a few. Like Poland or Korea with Archery or Kenya or Jamaica with track
deathmonger Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Just now, bharathh said: Like Poland or Korea with Archery or Kenya or Jamaica with track yup. russia with wrestling. americans at swimming and athletics. chinese with tt and weightlifting.
rollingstoned Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, deathmonger said: TIER 1 - sports we are already world class in (best in the world - wins gold at highest levels) compound archery TIER 2 - sports we are good in but not yet world class (wins a medal or two in olympics/world championships) boxing wrestling badminton shooting athletics hockey weightlifting TIER 3 - sports we are ok in (not yet world championship/olympic level but qualifies till quarter finals) recurve archery table tennis TIER 4 - sports we are bad at (group stage exit in world championship/olympic) swimming cycling rowing etc etc First priority should be to get TIER 2 to 1, then 3 to 2, then new sports in 4 to 3. 15 years down the line again move a tier up. Diving and gymnastics also can hand us some medals if we invest in them. Soviets became a powerhouse by focusing on it from a young age.
deathmonger Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 4 hours ago, rollingstoned said: Diving and gymnastics also can hand us some medals if we invest in them. Soviets became a powerhouse by focusing on it from a young age. yeah those will all be tier 4. if we invest now, we will be olympic level maybe 25 years from now. better to focus on tier 2 first and make them sureshot medal events.
bharathh Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Indian ladies through to the SF in compound archery women's team. 11 point win over HKG. In the marathon the Indian man in 9th position +1 min behind the lead group with 10 km to go.
bharathh Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Sindhu takes on a Chinese lady in the QF. Hope she brings her best form. Will be a tough match.
bharathh Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Inline skating is incredible to watch. First time seeing it. Iranian ladies crushing it. They are showing their hair a little though. Wonder if that will get them in trouble back home.
bharathh Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Indonesian ladies with a good performance vs Kazakhstan to win their QF. Will be tough opponents. They score more than the Indian ladies to win... 232/240.
VT87 Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: Yeah...that Maghsoodloo Parham from Iran - he was the cutting edge. I expected more from Gukesh and Pragg. Gukesh has to work on his end game I have seen him crumbling under pressure many times whether it is chess Olympiad,resent world championship against Magnus in Baku and now here I think Prag is better in that context he always find something and keep attacking even it’s loss Edited October 5, 2023 by VT87
bharathh Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Too nervous to watch the Sindhu game. Really hope she performs well!
bharathh Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Watching Jiu-jitsu. Looks the same as Judo and Kurash. I can't see how it is different. Can anyone explain the difference between the two in simple words? Also, not sure why a Brazilian martial art is being featured in the Asian Games. We should push for the OG martial art - Kalaripayatu to be included. It is way different from these.
bharathh Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Antim Panghal romping through her round vs her Uzbek opponent. Pretty comprehensive win. Her Uzbek opponent was a silver medalist at the 50kg category at the Asian Championships but is trying a higher weight class. Getting (wo)manhandled
bharathh Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Antim wins by technical superiority. Comprehensive start
bharathh Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Koreans very strong (236/240) despite the Vietnamese ladies who seemed determined to explore every number on the target. Finish with 236 India - Indonesia SF up next.
bharathh Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Crap! Antim has to face Fujinama Akori the world champ from Japan in the QF. She has no chance. Bronze the best bet for her. So unlucky to run into her so early!
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