Canada expels Indian diplomat; Indian government agents behind killing of Sikh leader - Trudeau

[mishra]

7 minutes ago, zen said:

Let Canada be proven wrong! Rather than proving India is wrong by evading! 

Pakistanis say  gunman killing terrorists is RAW KI SAAJISH.

Canada also says gunman killing terrorists RAW KI SAAJISH.

 

Thats only comparison. Difference is Canada is White Mansd land and Pakistan is Brown mans land

[zen]

2 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Sadly for Canada, the courts do not follow what you term as 'logical reasons' but operate basis hard facts and evidence.

The comparison with 26/11, as explained earlier, doesn't hold.

You are simply overlooking the fact that there is NOTHING that has been sent to India. It is different than saying there is nothing credible/conclusive.

India may say that when Canada manages to actually sends some 'evidence'.

That is Canada’s issue if it is one. All is needed right now is giving access to those believed to be involved! 
 

I don’t buy the 26/11 explanation as if India feels it did everything but faced a wall, so does Canada. It is understood that there cannot be a same set of events. This is from a broad picture.

 

To me, this is a sad incidence as India has been telling the west to not link it with Pak but it is acting in a way where it appears to be much like Pak.

[zen]

5 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

The onus is always on the ones making the accusation to provide proof.

 

Canada has to prove that their accusations are correct. They can start by filing a case against the Diplomatic staff. They haven't yet done any of this.

 

But there is going to be a trial and there is no harm in cooperating by the innocent!

[zen]

4 minutes ago, mishra said:

Pakistanis say  gunman killing terrorists is RAW KI SAAJISH.

Canada also says gunman killing terrorists RAW KI SAAJISH.

 

Thats only comparison. Difference is Canada is White Mansd land and Pakistan is Brown mans land

The difference is that Canada works in a global framework with its partners. It is seeking cooperation from GOI, which started playing the Pakistani evidence game.

 

India (and Pak) is relatively isolated where even its neighbors don’t seek to cooperate with it. 

 

 

[mishra]

Just now, zen said:

 

But there is going to be a trial and there is no harm in cooperating by the innocent!

Pakistan is also doing trials. There is no difference. Both cases its Terrorists who are killed by some terrorist or drug lord. Only difference is Pakistan provides open field Training facilities to Terrorsits. Canadian Provide media and money

 

Real Issue is Canada and Pakistan are harbouring and giving safe heavens to terrorists. chickens have come home to roost

[zen]

1 minute ago, mishra said:

Pakistan is also doing trials. There is no difference. Both cases its Terrorists who are killed by some terrorist or drug lord. Only difference is Pakistan provides open field Training facilities to Terrorsits. Canadian Provide media and money

 

Real Issue is Canada and Pakistan are harbouring and giving safe heavens to terrorists. chickens have come home to roost

That is what you believe. If a survey is done in Europe (many more countries than just India), we might see a different result. 

 

I am not saying Canada is right or India is right but let the truth come out through cooperation.

[mishra]

11 minutes ago, zen said:

The difference is that Canada works in a global framework with its partners. It is seeking cooperation from GOI, which started playing the Pakistani evidence game.

 

India (and Pak) is relatively isolated where even its neighbors don’t seek to cooperate with it. 

 

 

Forget the rest of world, Its very clear to General white Population that Trudeau and his father has been involved in sheletring protecting the Terrorist. Damage is done. More Canadian Tudeau make noise, More people will become aware of the fact.

 

Americans are smarter. They know its a case of them being caught with hand in cookie jar. So they are not making much fuss.

Edited October 18, 2024 by mishra

[mishra]

3 minutes ago, zen said:

That is what you believe. If a survey is done in Europe (many more countries than just India), we might see a different result. 

 

I am not saying Canada is right or India is right but let the truth come out through cooperation.

Actually, India and Indian and even rest of world is most likeley not interested if some Terrorist gets killed (specially if Terrorist is a Khalistani). We dont want to inconvenience a Indian or spend a single Public penny on this

Edited October 18, 2024 by mishra

[zen]

2 minutes ago, mishra said:

Forget the rest of world, Its very clear to General white Population that Trudeau and his father has been involved in sheletring protecting the Terrorist. Damage is done. More Canadians make noise, More people will become aware of the fact.

 

Americans are smarter. They know its a case of them being caught with hand in cookie jar. So they are not making much fuss.

This is not about Trudeau. People may forgot him in future. This is about Indian agents involved with crimes in Canada. 
 

In the US, India has already played the rogue agent card. 
 

[mishra]

4 minutes ago, zen said:

This is not about Trudeau. People may forgot him in future. This is about Indian agents involved with crimes in Canada. 
 

In the US, India has already played the rogue agent card. 
 

No, In future Hollywood will make a movie, Just like they made a movie on Israelis taking out Munich Bombers. It will show how Americans foiled Assaination attempt of a Terrorists. As far as people watching the movie,  Only crime part for them is Munich attack in that movie. And even then, India will deny it.

Edited October 18, 2024 by mishra

[zen]

1 minute ago, mishra said:

No, In future Hollywood will make a movie, Just like they made a movie on Israelis taking out Munich Bombers. It will show how Americans foiled Assaination attempt of a Terrorists. As far as people watching the movie,  Only crime part for them is Munich attack in that movie.

Ok, but people can make movies on “martyrs” of say Kashmir or Khalistan or whatever, portraying them as freedom fighters. It has nothing to do with laws? If the freedom fighter or terrorist killed someone, he would be tried.
 

All this means nothing to the case on hand. 
 

 

[mishra]

9 minutes ago, zen said:

Ok, but people can make movies on “martyrs” of say Kashmir or Khalistan or whatever, portraying them as freedom fighters. It has nothing to do with laws? If the freedom fighter or terrorist killed someone, he would be tried.
 

All this means nothing to the case on hand. 
 

 

I just told you where it is heading to. U can keep calling Terrorist as martyrs. I have full faith that in general, people will side with humanity and not criminals. And over the period, such negative forces will keep getting weaker and there won’t be anyone wasting his earned money on somethingas that will not have many takers. Even such people  themselves, will get weaker if they dont change the course. For Example Tudeau may loose elections because Canadians can see he is siding with Terrorists unless he course corrects

Edited October 18, 2024 by mishra

[zen]

1 minute ago, mishra said:

I just told you where it is heading to. U can keep calling Terrorist as martyrs. I have full faith that in general, people will side with humanity and not criminals. And over the period, such negative forces will keep getting weaker and there won’t be anyone wasting his earned money on somethingas that will not have many takers

In the Khalistani community the killed “terrorist” is already a “martyr” because of India. IMO, India has achieved nothing here through this operation (which could probably be more like someone in Indian intelligence was trying to impress his/her boss with what they are doing). 

After a terrorist is captured, he is presented to the court. Usually, he is only be killed in action. 

 

If nothing else, this case will likely show India that its concepts and theories don’t work outside India. 
 

Over the centuries, India has never been able to be a true global power (there may have been an incidences here and there where an empire ventured beyond its shores). Because it probably does not know how to be one. 

 

 

[mishra]

16 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Over the centuries, India has never been able to be a true global power (there may have been an incidences here and there where an empire ventured beyond its shores). Because it probably does not know how to be one. 

 

 

Its because Hindus have a weakness in their ethos that is too much Compassion/humanity. For example teachings like Vasudev Kutumbkam. When two people fight, Its allways compassionate person who will loose or his head Rolls. 

 

Even though I know it but still I or you or anyother Hindu as a society will behave same way. So, We apply brute force to certain level and then Compassion Kicks in.

Edited October 18, 2024 by mishra

[zen]

As I said I am not looking at this as Canada v India but as a case:

 

 

MEA is is unable to provide palatable answers, relying on “vote bank politics” as if it helps to solve the issue.

 

[zen]

Recent statement from the Canadian Consulate in India: 

 

Unlike India (which has not a part of any major strategic alliance), Canada is accountable to its global strategic partners including the Five Eyes so it is less likely to make “random” statements.

Edited October 18, 2024 by zen

[ravishingravi]

32 minutes ago, zen said:

Recent statement from the Canadian Consulate in India: 

 

Unlike India (which has not a part of any major strategic alliance), Canada is accountable to its global strategic partners including the Five Eyes so it is less likely to make “random” statements.

 

 

Indeed. Another "trust me bro" logic. Hope one of the five eyes have discovered the WMDs given their reliability. Btw this is three days old video. Within these three days five different statements from your PM, foreign minister and RCMP. And none mentioned any irrefutable evidence. 

 

[ravishingravi]

Must say my respect for Khalistanis has gone up a bit, whatever the result of this so called investigation. White man's burden certainly ain't weighing them down. 

[zen]

Just now, ravishingravi said:

 

 

Indeed. Another "trust me bro" logic. Hope one of the five eyes have discovered the WMDs given their reliability. Btw this is three days old video. Within these three days five different statements from your PM, foreign minister and RCMP. And none mentioned any irrefutable evidence. 

 

The meetings, esp. in Singapore, have been mentioned but it won’t probably be mentioned in Indian media which is playing into the Canadian hands of delving into irrelevant stuff like Trudeau’s remark on his first action, his vote bank politic, and resorting ad hominem).

 

RCMP has released a statement too - Link

 

If GOI is innocent, it needs to cooperate. By dodging, it is proving its guilt, and Canada’s stand gets vindicated without even putting additional effort!

 

[zen]

12 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

Must say my respect for Khalistanis has gone up a bit, whatever the result of this so called investigation. White man's burden certainly ain't weighing them down. 

They want Khalistan in Punjab, not in the west.