vvvslaxman Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Don’t go by political rhetoric. All Israelis are behind BB even politicians on the Israeli war efforts post 10/7/23. Domestic politics notwithstanding. There was an Israeli Movie industry guy in India who was dissing Netanyahu, of course there are libturds in Israel, even som pro-Hamas. Not entirely. If people refuse to fight for army they could face imprisonment. They are silencing the protesters. Indians are blindly supporting Israel without listening to both sides. https://jacobin.com/2023/11/israel-cracking-down-internal-dissent-gaza-idf-benjamin-netanyahu https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/19/israel-police-boss-threatens-to-send-anti-war-protesters-to-gaza-on-buses
coffee_rules Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Not entirely. If people refuse to fight for army they could face imprisonment. They are silencing the protesters. Indians are blindly supporting Israel without listening to both sides. https://jacobin.com/2023/11/israel-cracking-down-internal-dissent-gaza-idf-benjamin-netanyahu https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/19/israel-police-boss-threatens-to-send-anti-war-protesters-to-gaza-on-buses It was the same here in 60s and 70s when Vietnam war draft was in effect. Draft dodgers were punished. Considering the population of Israel and the enemies surrounding them, they cannot afford dissent in war efforts. They survive only on that front. lol’ Al-jazz opinion on Israel? Not too reliable Edited November 8, 2024 by coffee_rules Laaloo 1
vvvslaxman Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: It was the same here in 60s and 70s when Vietnam war draft was in effect. Draft dodgers were punished. Considering the population of Israel and the enemies surrounding them, they cannot afford dissent in war efforts. They survive only on that front Trump was a draft dodger. Using war to escape prison will be met with resistance. That is autocracy. Edited November 8, 2024 by vvvslaxman
Muloghonto Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 13 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Not entirely. If people refuse to fight for army they could face imprisonment. They are silencing the protesters. Indians are blindly supporting Israel without listening to both sides. https://jacobin.com/2023/11/israel-cracking-down-internal-dissent-gaza-idf-benjamin-netanyahu https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/19/israel-police-boss-threatens-to-send-anti-war-protesters-to-gaza-on-buses there is no both sides, when one side is free democratic media and other is fascist totalitarian media of a dictatorship with no human rights. Al Jazeera = fascist propaganda comparable to North Korean state media. Only a fascist would quote Al Jazeera.
coffee_rules Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Trump was a draft dodger So was Clinton and all the rich folk. Only poor people kids go and die in the wars. Sr Bush got GW into Air National Guard and kept him away from wars Edited November 8, 2024 by coffee_rules
vvvslaxman Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: So was Clinton and all the rich folk. Only poor people kids go and die in the wars THey don't get punished like israelis. Not all jews are behind Israel. You are dismissing former PM's comment as political rhetoric. If someone who actually feels Israel is the victim he won't be using political rhetoric. He would back them like Dems backed that foolish Iraq war. But many of them know this was a war with no end game. It was just to buy time to stay away from prison.
Muloghonto Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: THey don't get punished like israelis. Not all jews are behind Israel. You are dismissing former PM's comment as political rhetoric. If someone who actually feels Israel is the victim he won't be using political rhetoric. He would back them like Dems backed that foolish Iraq war. But many of them know this was a war with no end game. It was just to buy time to stay away from prison. If you can dismiss your tamil supremacists ' hinduism needs to be eliminated' as political rhetoric, we can dismiss competing politicians's opinions as political rhetoric.
coffee_rules Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: THey don't get punished like israelis. Not all jews are behind Israel. You are dismissing former PM's comment as political rhetoric. If someone who actually feels Israel is the victim he won't be using political rhetoric. He would back them like Dems backed that foolish Iraq war. But many of them know this was a war with no end game. It was just to buy time to stay away from prison. My point is , even if Netanyahu loses and goes to jail, would the next govt stop the offensive on Gaza to get the remaining hostages out?
vvvslaxman Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 They have so far killed 196 aid workers there https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/middleeast/israel-world-central-kitchen-report-explainer-intl/index.html Israel’s military says it made ‘grave’ mistakes in killing seven aid workers in Gaza. Here’s what we know Yeah right "mistake"
Muloghonto Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 Just now, coffee_rules said: My point is , even if Netanyahu loses and goes to jail, would the next govt stop the offensive on Gaza to get the remaining hostages out? why would any side stop attacking till they get the hostages released, once they have started attacking is also a question to ponder, i think. coffee_rules 1
vvvslaxman Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: My point is , even if Netanyahu loses and goes to jail, would the next govt stop the offensive on Gaza to get the remaining hostages out? You would engage in peace talks. Enough damage done. You would stop the war. So many casaualties. Children killed. How can one support . 70 percent of people who were killed in Gaza were women and children.
coffee_rules Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: They have so far killed 196 aid workers there https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/middleeast/israel-world-central-kitchen-report-explainer-intl/index.html Israel’s military says it made ‘grave’ mistakes in killing seven aid workers in Gaza. Here’s what we know Yeah right "mistake" Russians shot a passenger plane by mistake. Obama bombed marriage parties and said oops, sorry. Hamas operated behind women, children and UN/aid workers! Didn’t one of the hostages retrieved from a AL-Jazz reporters’ house? Collateral damage is becoming of how Hamas is deliberately hiding behind victims and firing at IDF Edited November 9, 2024 by coffee_rules Laaloo and Muloghonto 1 1
Muloghonto Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: You would engage in peace talks. Enough damage done. You would stop the war. So many casaualties. Children killed. How can one support . 70 percent of people who were killed in Gaza were women and children. very easy to support war against terrorists who kidnapped and mass raped and mass killed thousand+ civilians and despite losing their own civilians in collateral damage, refuse to let go of the hostages remaining. Laaloo 1
coffee_rules Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: You would engage in peace talks. Enough damage done. You would stop the war. So many casaualties. Children killed. How can one support . 70 percent of people who were killed in Gaza were women and children. I think everybody knows Oct 7 is beyond peace talks. Even deep state
vvvslaxman Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: I think everybody knows Oct 7 is beyond peace talks. Even deep state It was in response to their occupation. Who did they kill in retaliation? Mostly children and women.
vvvslaxman Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 12 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Russians shot a passenger plane by mistake. Obama bombed marriage parties and said oops, sorry. Hamas operated behind women, children and UN/aid workers! Didn’t one of the hostages retrieved from a AL-Jazz reporters’ house? Collateral damage is becoming of how Hamas is deliberately hiding behind victims and firing at IDF That is just a Jewish propaganda lol "Hiding behind victims". This has been the standard propaganda used in all the wars where lot of innocents getting killed.
Muloghonto Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: It was in response to their occupation. Who did they kill in retaliation? Mostly children and women. typical islamist leftie liberal jew hater : justifying terrorism as ' response to occupation'. Despite the FACT that Israel VOLUNTARILY left Gaza in 2007 or thereabouts. He means occupation = existence of israel. The filastini genocidal position. Laaloo 1
coffee_rules Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 15 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: That is just a Jewish propaganda lol "Hiding behind victims". This has been the standard propaganda used in all the wars where lot of innocents getting killed. You have all Jewish propaganda figured out, why can’t Hamas give up all hostages despite so many women and children dying? Why was Yahya Sinwar and his Burkin toting wife hiding in tunnels while regular Gaza a get to die in open air bombing? Why does Hamas torture and kill Palestinians who dissent? This I from Yahya’s own account
coffee_rules Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 20 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: It was in response to their occupation. Who did they kill in retaliation? Mostly children and women. Occupation? Jews left back Gaza in 2005. If palestianians don’t want to keep terrorism on, occupation in WB will continue
vvvslaxman Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 Just now, coffee_rules said: You have all Jewish propaganda figured out, why can’t Hamas give up all hostages despite so many women and children dying? Why was Yahya Sinwar and his Burkin toting wife hiding in tunnels while regular Gaza a get to die in open air bombing? Why does Hamas torture and kill Palestinians who dissent? This I from Yahya’s own account How are children and women responsible for that? The hostage release was based on a deal that didn't materialize. So you continue negotiations not go around killing babies.
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