Ultimate_Game Posted June 11, 2024 Posted June 11, 2024 7 hours ago, Sgattick10 said: Kamran apologises. That's fake apology... he's sorry he got caught and not sorry for what he did/said. I doubt he even understands what he did wrong. Sgattick10 1
Ultimate_Game Posted June 11, 2024 Posted June 11, 2024 2 hours ago, Gollum said: Everyday news from Pak There's a reason why minority population in Pak has nose-dived post partition whereas in India the number (%ge) has increased.
RajBan Posted June 12, 2024 Posted June 12, 2024 As if this is the first time a Pakistani cricketer has said something like this on camera. Afridi, Malik, Tanveer and countless others have done this in past. This is not a one off case but a reflection of the extremely regressive cultural and educational background that they come from regardless of their financial prowess. Add to this the religious toxicity and tendency to politicise it against the minority wherever they are in majority(Pakistan or West), this is bound to happen. Infact you will see some of these comments coming from British Pakistani cricketers in 10 years time with Artherton, Hussain and Bumble either looking the other way or acting apologetic on behalf of those individuals. Britain is a ticking time bomb and will closely compete with Pakistan in next 2 decades in terms of social malise. And these che*** have the gaul to lecture us on democracy and secularism with some our own trying to milk it for their political interests.
Vilander Posted June 12, 2024 Posted June 12, 2024 21 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: While I agree religion has no place in sports... But do you see our ex players making such remarks ever? India is far more liberal and progressive minded than those illiterate jaahils. There's no comparison at all sorry. Chanting jai sree ram as a war cry to intimidate Muslims or Pakistanis gives it a militant connotation which is besmirching a holy Hindu prayer praising a deity with quite contrary ethos, one of benovalence, duty, violence only as a necessary tool to do good not militant political aggression. It's tasteless. Vicks57 1
Kron Posted June 12, 2024 Posted June 12, 2024 13 minutes ago, RajBan said: As if this is the first time a Pakistani cricketer has said something like this on camera. Afridi, Malik, Tanveer and countless others have done this in past. This is not a one off case but a reflection of the extremely regressive cultural and educational background that they come from regardless of their financial prowess. Add to this the religious toxicity and tendency to politicise it against the minority wherever they are in majority(Pakistan or West), this is bound to happen. Infact you will see some of these comments coming from British Pakistani cricketers in 10 years time with Artherton, Hussain and Bumble either looking the other way or acting apologetic on behalf of those individuals. Britain is a ticking time bomb and will closely compete with Pakistan in next 2 decades in terms of social malise. And these che*** have the gaul to lecture us on democracy and secularism with some our own trying to milk it for their political interests. brtain could only conquer india cause india allowed it to happen. we were shills. we betrayed our own kind. finally drove them out after 150 years. they stole 1 trillion from us which they still owe. guess their way of thanks is by giving indians visas or citizenship if they are skilled enough etc. lel pakistan is a regressive country. many of the people are quite nice. its the government and some of the messed up celebrities that ruin their reputation. world is better without these extremists. this applies to any race.
RajBan Posted June 12, 2024 Posted June 12, 2024 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Kron said: brtain could only conquer india cause india allowed it to happen. we were shills. we betrayed our own kind. finally drove them out after 150 years. they stole 1 trillion from us which they still owe. guess their way of thanks is by giving indians visas or citizenship if they are skilled enough etc. lel pakistan is a regressive country. many of the people are quite nice. its the government and some of the messed up celebrities that ruin their reputation. world is better without these extremists. this applies to any race. There are nice Individual Pakistanis but as a collective they will always allow their worst to take over. The issue with their society and others like that is the so called nice people look the other way when the minority extremists go on a rampage or verbal diarrhoea like this and then when there is a reaction from all over these same nice people will act as an apologetic for the extremists with some theoretical gyan that "our religion, out culture do not support this". It's all a matter of convenience for them. While these nice people may not indulge into dirt by themselves, they will do nothing to stop the rot and clean the house. This is different to true secular countries like India or in the West where the majority are inherently secular and they will take the initiative if things go beyond a threshold. Edited June 12, 2024 by RajBan Kron 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 12, 2024 Posted June 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Vilander said: Chanting jai sree ram as a war cry to intimidate Muslims or Pakistanis gives it a militant connotation which is besmirching a holy Hindu prayer praising a deity with quite contrary ethos, one of benovalence, duty, violence only as a necessary tool to do good not militant political aggression. It's tasteless. Have you ever visited a military academy or something like a BSF camp or Army recruitment camp? Har Har Mahadev, Jai jwala mata, Jo bole so nihaal are usual war cries for Army men... I am sure on the other side they have their own stuff.
Kron Posted June 12, 2024 Posted June 12, 2024 57 minutes ago, RajBan said: There are nice Individual Pakistanis but as a collective they will always allow their worst to take over. The issue with their society and others like that is the so called nice people look the other way when the minority extremists go on a rampage or verbal diarrhoea like this and then when there is a reaction from all over these same nice people will act as an apologetic for the extremists with some theoretical gyan that "our religion, out culture do not support this". It's all a matter of convenience for them. While these nice people may not indulge into dirt by themselves, they will do nothing to stop the rot and clean the house. This is different to true secular countries like India or in the West where the majority are inherently secular and they will take the initiative if things go beyond a threshold. But Pakistanis are italians no? Isn't Italy secular?
RajBan Posted June 12, 2024 Posted June 12, 2024 5 minutes ago, Kron said: But Pakistanis are italians no? Isn't Italy secular? Now you have got me. lol.
Vilander Posted June 13, 2024 Posted June 13, 2024 On 6/12/2024 at 1:29 AM, Lone Wolf said: Have you ever visited a military academy or something like a BSF camp or Army recruitment camp? Har Har Mahadev, Jai jwala mata, Jo bole so nihaal are usual war cries for Army men... I am sure on the other side they have their own stuff. Jai sree ram? Shiva and kaali yes. That fits. Jai shri raam due to ram janma bhoomi and ayodhya has a civilization connotation. And more substantial impact, like it's made for flags emblems mascots. Both negative and positive associations will be accentuated. Shiva has an ascetic sigma energy like it's made for clandestine ops stickers. It's nature is destructive that you almost had to be safe not to piss off those chanting it, like what were you thinking?. And I don't care for Ram although I like identifying as a dharmic it's too naarthi for me. This is coming from my sensitivities. Imagine a genuin ram bhakt. diga 1
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