Bangladesh Tour of Pakistan 2024(2 Tests) - Discussion Thread

[Tillu]

6 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

You need to revisit history books on reasons behind BD independence 'cause brother wasn't the word used back then but thats for BD and Pak.

 

Back to cricket, if you are happy losing to BD (because they are your so-called 'brothers') then may you continue losing into foreseeable future. 

 

He must have also immensely enjoyed the brotherly love shown by Shakib towards Rizwan. All this fake love is just pretense.

 

[RizBarKhan]

47 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

You need to revisit history books on reasons behind BD independence 'cause brother wasn't the word used back then but thats for BD and Pak.

 

Back to cricket, if you are happy losing to BD (because they are your so-called 'brothers') then may you continue losing into foreseeable future. 

Who tf is living in the mid 1900s. The British also said some disgusting stuff about Indians and treated y’all like s*** but that doesn’t mean it holds true for the present. If people held grudges for distant historical grievances then America would’ve never been friends with Canada despite them burning down the White House nor would France and Germany be close allies today. Fortunately most Pakistanis and Bangladeshis have turned a page and are moving forward.

Edited August 26, 2024 by RizBarKhan

[RizBarKhan]

40 minutes ago, Tillu said:

 

He must have also immensely enjoyed the brotherly love shown by Shakib towards Rizwan. All this fake love is just pretense.

 

That’s normal in sports, you sound sensitive. If you’ve ever played competitive sports then acts of aggression aren’t uncommon, overly psychoanalyzing every little interaction on the field to then stretch it to construct a narrative is very childish and unmanly. 

Edited August 26, 2024 by RizBarKhan

[Tillu]

13 minutes ago, RizBarKhan said:

That’s normal in sports, you sound sensitive. If you’ve ever played competitive sports then acts of aggression aren’t uncommon, overly psychoanalyzing every little interaction on the field to then stretch it to construct a narrative is very childish and unmanly. 

 

By the same token a few intermarriages between Paxtanis and Bangladeshis doesn't prove there's no animosity between the two groups based on the historic wrongs committed by your nation.

 

I also read about so many cross cultural marriages between Indians and Pakistanis abroad on the internet, doesn't mean all is fine and dandy between both the countries. These are all simplistic anecdotal evidences. Reality is a lot more complex.

[RizBarKhan]

16 minutes ago, Tillu said:

 

By the same token a few intermarriages between Paxtanis and Bangladeshis doesn't prove there's no animosity between the two groups based on the historic wrongs committed by your nation.

 

I also read about so many cross cultural marriages between Indians and Pakistanis abroad on the internet, doesn't mean all is fine and dandy between both the countries. These are all simplistic anecdotal evidences. Reality is a lot more complex.

It does because Pakistanis and Bangladeshis have no serious issues between each other, there really isn’t any animosity outside a very minuscule minority of political extremists but overall we get along pretty well. Yes, Pakistanis do marry Muslim Indians and we get along fine with them, we also have a good rapport with Sikhs from India, just cause there was animosity a long time back doesn’t mean we aren’t friends and allies today with a good chunk of Indians. We’ve put our beef aside and are focused on the elephant in the room, double pun intended .

[Tillu]

21 minutes ago, RizBarKhan said:

It does because Pakistanis and Bangladeshis have no serious issues between each other, there really isn’t any animosity outside a very minuscule minority of political extremists but overall we get along pretty well. Yes, Pakistanis do marry Muslim Indians and we get along fine with them, we also have a good rapport with Sikhs from India, just cause there was animosity a long time back doesn’t mean we aren’t friends and allies today with a good chunk of Indians. We’ve put our beef aside and are focused on the elephant in the room, double pun intended .

 

Whatever man Shakib shouldn't have done that. Shakib came to your patch and humiliated your player right in front of your crowd. And this is normal Shakib we are talking. An angry Shakib might have knocked his head off. And I guess this was his angry reaction to what Shaheen did in Bangladesh when he threw the ball at a Bangladeshi batter after he hit him for a six the previous ball  Deep down all the Bangladeshis know you look down on them and I reckon this is Shakibs way of expressing his anger.

[AuxiliA]

19 minutes ago, RizBarKhan said:

It does because Pakistanis and Bangladeshis have no serious issues between each other, there really isn’t any animosity outside a very minuscule minority of political extremists but overall we get along pretty well. Yes, Pakistanis do marry Muslim Indians and we get along fine with them, we also have a good rapport with Sikhs from India, just cause there was animosity a long time back doesn’t mean we aren’t friends and allies today with a good chunk of Indians. We’ve put our beef aside and are focused on the elephant in the room, double pun intended .

 

That elephant in the room is too big for the neighbouring piglets. Bangladesh will soon realise that it's recent decadal growth under Hasina govt happened only with the economic support & cooperation of India. Otherwise they would have been in worse position than even failed state Pakistan. 

 

Anyways why don't you guys get along with your Afghan neighbours? Aren't they even 'higher' Muslims than you guys? I remember you guys celebrating through the roof when Taliban came back in 2021. 

 

[RizBarKhan]

14 minutes ago, Tillu said:

 

Whatever man Shakib shouldn't have done that. Shakib came to your patch and humiliated your player right in front of your crowd. And this is normal Shakib we are talking. An angry Shakib might have knocked his head off. And I guess this was his angry reaction to what Shaheen did in Bangladesh when he threw the ball at a Bangladeshi batter after he hit him for a six the previous ball  Deep down all the Bangladeshis know you look down on them and I reckon this is Shakibs way of expressing his anger.

You’re reading too much into this, this isn’t one of your Indian soaps 

[Nikhil_cric]

47 minutes ago, RizBarKhan said:

It does because Pakistanis and Bangladeshis have no serious issues between each other, there really isn’t any animosity outside a very minuscule minority of political extremists but overall we get along pretty well. Yes, Pakistanis do marry Muslim Indians and we get along fine with them, we also have a good rapport with Sikhs from India, just cause there was animosity a long time back doesn’t mean we aren’t friends and allies today with a good chunk of Indians. We’ve put our beef aside and are focused on the elephant in the room, double pun intended .

Short of using your nuclear arsenal , there is literally nothing that both PAK and BD combined can do to bigger elephant here. 

 

 

[RizBarKhan]

13 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

 

That elephant in the room is too big for the neighbouring piglets. Bangladesh will soon realise that it's recent decadal growth under Hasina govt happened only with the economic support & cooperation of India. Otherwise they would have been in worse position than even failed state Pakistan. 

 

Anyways why don't you guys get along with your Afghan neighbours? Aren't they even 'higher' Muslims than you guys? I remember you guys celebrating through the roof when Taliban came back in 2021. 

 

lol @ claiming credit for their success. Bangladesh’s economic growth was mainly fueled by textile exports to first world countries, they don’t need India for that and Bangladeshis would much rather have their sovereignty respected than have a puppet government in place just for some economic favors from a neighborhood bully.

 

We need to work on our issues with Afghanistan but person to person, it’s not bad at all. My ex was Afghan and intermarriage isn’t uncommon in the diaspora after all we’re brothers in faith. Like I said before, an open border and economic integration between Pakistan and Afghanistan is best for both of our nations. 

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[Nikhil_cric]

2 minutes ago, RizBarKhan said:

Who said we’re alone in this endeavor either. The elephant has stepped on too many toes.

You are in a debt trap and your deindustrialization has already begun. 

 

Bangladesh is headed down a similar path with an American puppet at the helm of affairs.

 

World powers may not like India's positions and the direction we're heading and they'll try to force compliance .

 

But we offer much more geopolitical and economic value than basket cases like PAK. 

 

So there's no question of anything happening beyond a point 

 

The denuclearisation and Balkanisation of Pakistan will happen way before anything happens in India .

 

Even the rich ummah nations and China need us way more than they need PAK. 

 

 

[RizBarKhan]

You guys can go ahead and ban me if you want, I tried being nice and respectful for this past month but have been met with nothing but unprovoked hate, racism and Islamophobia along with threats from pathetic old men with no lives and cringey fob humor, I wish more Pakistanis see your real faces because these are the real Indians and what they really think about Pakistanis and Muslims in general. 
 

[AuxiliA]

49 minutes ago, RizBarKhan said:

lol @ claiming credit for their success. Bangladesh’s economic growth was mainly fueled by textile exports to first world countries, they don’t need India for that and Bangladeshis would much rather have their sovereignty respected than have a puppet government in place just for some economic favors from a neighborhood bully.

 

 

 

You need some lessons in economic history which is clearly not covered in your madrassa. Most of BD's economic growth, especially in their flagship textile industry happened only in the past 15 years under the Hasina govt which had cordial economic relations with India. 

 

Bangladesh doesn't produce raw materials for their textile industry, most of it is procured from neighbouring India at very modest rates. Even their electricity is exported by Indian companies again at modest rates.

 

India did them a huge favour by giving them large & constant supplies of cheap electricity and raw materials. Otherwise their condition would have been same as Pakistan, which actually had a big textile industry in the past but later it declined largely because of economic isolation with India. 

 

Edited August 26, 2024 by AuxiliA

[Nikhil_cric]

9 minutes ago, RizBarKhan said:

You offer no value other than cheap labor and unskilled immigrants on fraudulent visas. Balkanization of Pakistan won’t ever happen but if it does it would lead to the balkanization of India because nothing holds India together. The world doesn’t care about India’s “position” or “direction”, it’s a small player in the grand scheme of things, it’s an overpopulated landmass with no natural resources other copy pasting code from GitHub and providing subpar tech support because paying keyboard monkeys $8 an hour is just too good of a deal to turn down. Your prime minister knows his country has no future that’s why he goes around begging other countries to ruin their societies by accepting mass immigration from India, he’s made pleas to America, several gulf and European countries and the gen tried to make it part of the FTA with British and they pretty much slapped Modi in the face and told him they would never do that, now they look at Canada and Australia that have been inundated by low skilled immigrants from India with their funny language, weird dress sense and body odor polluting their streets to such an extent that they’ve become the most anti Indian countries in the world. The same is happening in America especially in place like Texas and New Jersey where people are sick of mass immigration from India, there are entire neighborhoods that look like Chennai. India will never be a western nation and nor are you liked by East Asia or Africa or Latin America or the Middle East, even your own neighbors despise you, every single one of them. India has no future and Indians know that. 

Unfortunately , Pakistanis don't even offer as much as we do and are nothing but low life criminals who will always be associated with paedo gangs, extremism in addition to all the ills that plague India, even more poverty in the future and will end up with severe water scarcity because we are going to dam the Indus up,  world's highest obesity rates and very likely hyperinflation in the future. 

 

If India's future is bleak , Pakistan's post mortem has already begun 

[Nikhil_cric]

5 minutes ago, RizBarKhan said:

You guys can go ahead and ban me if you want, I tried being nice and respectful for this past month but have been met with nothing but unprovoked hate, racism and Islamophobia along with threats from pathetic old men with no lives and cringey fob humor, I wish more Pakistanis see your real faces because these are the real Indians and what they really think about Pakistanis and Muslims in general. 
 

Right . So you are British Pakistani .  Nothing more needs to be said. 

[LM16]

Just now, Nikhil_cric said:

Unfortunately , Pakistanis don't even offer as much as we do and are nothing but low life criminals who will always be associated with paedo gangs, extremism in addition to all the ills that plague India, even more poverty in the future and will end up with severe water scarcity because we are going to dam the Indus up,  world's highest obesity rates and very likely hyperinflation in the future. 

 

If India's future is bleak , Pakistan's post mortem has already begun 

They offer international Terrorism. Pakistanis. In this life.

[RizBarKhan]

4 minutes ago, RizBarKhan said:

You guys can go ahead and ban me if you want, I tried being nice and respectful for this past month but have been met with nothing but unprovoked hate, racism and Islamophobia along with threats from pathetic old men with no lives and cringey fob humor, I wish more Pakistanis see your real faces because these are the real Indians and what they really think about Pakistanis and Muslims in general. 
 

Also to add to my comment. Indians are always treated with respect and hospitality in every Pakistan space and forum both online and in person, there may be be political and religious disagreements but it never gets uncivil. Every single Pakistan forum and website and platform I’ve been the moderators always discourage bad language and insults and will even ban and censure any Pakistanis who act out of line and disrespect indians, bad language and insulting peoples women and families really frowned upon in Pakistani society which is why the weird bazaari language associated with Indians online (And I guess in person) is seen as a culture shock for many Pakistanis. I wish Pakistanis learned from you guys and also met out the same unprovoked hostility and abuse you hurl at Pakistanis and Muslims, our spaces should reciprocate your energy and will make that mission because from my short time on this forum and interactions with Indians I love realize how much hate Indians have for us and their way of life and artifices and values are very different from, I don’t think there can ever be peace because Indians are radicalized with hate even their so called “educated” classes, I’ll let you guys know that the things are going to change so don’t be surprised if Pakistani forum become more like this. 

[RizBarKhan]

4 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Right . So you are British Pakistani .  Nothing more needs to be said. 

I’m Pakistani American

[Nikhil_cric]

Personal request to all mods, please don't ban this poster. Let him say whatever he wants , no matter how offensive.