India will not travel to Pakistan for ICC Champions Trophy 2025

[singhvivek141]

21 minutes ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

Every country is now touring Pakistan. There’s no heightened threat to Indian cricketers based on bilateral animosity, any more  than those existed when Pakistani cricketers visited India.

You wrote about no security issue. 

I responded to you with the security problems.

Now you come with the response that as others are travelling so India should also travel. It doesn't make any sense.

 

Indian players has been attacked historically in Pak, even when other nationals didn't.....Srikkanth was attempted to be stabbed by an individual in the ground despite all the security.

[singhvivek141]

29 minutes ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

 

 

There was a time when I felt India had a strong narrative globally regarding its issues with Pakistan on terrorism, and many countries aligned with India, leaving Pakistan isolated. For almost a decade no team toured Pakistan. However, in recent years, Pakistan has made significant progress in combating terrorism, and the world has acknowledged these efforts, as shown by the increasing number of international teams now regularly touring Pakistan and Pakistan will be hosting its first ICC event. 

Now, India finds itself more isolated, lacking broad support, and its stance is beginning to appear desperate to neutral observers because all other teams are visiting Pakistan and do not agree with India’s stance. Recently, several Australian commentators even mocked the political bias and pettiness of India’s decision to undermine its neighbor’s tournament, pointing out that more is expected from the stronger, larger country than the weaker one and the decision amounts to bullying…

India vs Pakistan is a deeper bilateral issue...other countries who are far away will not understand that.

[jigjig]

2 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Answer lies in posts before

Yes. It does. And he himself calls the attack on Sri Lankan team "Indian sponsored" and then is asking India to come to play in Pakistan..Country ke saath log bhi loser ban chuke hain

[jigjig]

MKL partition karke bolte hai border khol do.

 

It's like apne ammi ke pet mein chura ghop ke usi ammi se khana maangna. 

[Itsthedon]

2 minutes ago, jigjig said:

MKL partition karke bolte hai border khol do.

 

It's like apne ammi ke pet mein chura ghop ke usi ammi se khana maangna. 

[raki05]

1 hour ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

Of the 68 who died on that terror attack in India, 40 were Pakistani nationals in the Samjhota Express. The NIA suspected that Swami Aseemanand was the mastermind behind the attack, but later acquitted four men, including Aseemanand, due to “lack of evidence”. 
Pakistan should absolutely apprehend every single person involved in the 26/11 attack. It was a horrific incident and it’s unacceptable for the mastermind and Pakistani nationals to not be held accountable by its Government. The same logic should be applied to perpetrators of Samjohta express.

Dont put the wiki information and even with that 30 indians died so why an indian will ploy a plan which will kill Indians. We know why swami aseemanand was arrested by congress government to do the minority appeasement and attack on rss and bjp, that is why its never got proven in court of law. You cant compare your army backed 26/11 attack and parliament attack with samjhauta express attack. As samjhauta express attack is still doesnt have clear evidence till date.

[raki05]

1 hour ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

 

 

There was a time when I felt India had a strong narrative globally regarding its issues with Pakistan on terrorism, and many countries aligned with India, leaving Pakistan isolated. For almost a decade no team toured Pakistan. However, in recent years, Pakistan has made significant progress in combating terrorism, and the world has acknowledged these efforts, as shown by the increasing number of international teams now regularly touring Pakistan and Pakistan will be hosting its first ICC event. 

Now, India finds itself more isolated, lacking broad support, and its stance is beginning to appear desperate to neutral observers because all other teams are visiting Pakistan and do not agree with India’s stance. Recently, several Australian commentators even mocked the political bias and pettiness of India’s decision to undermine its neighbor’s tournament, pointing out that more is expected from the stronger, larger country than the weaker one and the decision amounts to bullying…

Lol who cares what Australian think of india biletral relation… do a 26/11 and parliament attack like activity in aus than lets see how frequently aus, nzlander are travelling. As said aus, nz , eng have zero stakes on how India act with Pakistan considering so many terrorist attack done by Pakistan in past. Only since we stopped these bilateral ties at major level with Pakistani we have seen reduction of terrorist attack. Since 2014 Pakistani sponsored terrorist acts are only limited to kashmir and state touching kashmir and that too are very limited. Until pak military stops these state sponsored terror completely on indian its better to penalise them where it hurts them the most which is their pockets.

[Sharjah-Harjah]

16 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Lol who cares what Australian think of india biletral relation… do a 26/11 and parliament attack like activity in aus than lets see how frequently aus, nzlander are travelling. As said aus, nz , eng have zero stakes on how India act with Pakistan considering so many terrorist attack done by Pakistan in past. Only since we stopped these bilateral ties at major level with Pakistani we have seen reduction of terrorist attack. Since 2014 Pakistani sponsored terrorist acts are only limited to kashmir and state touching kashmir and that too are very limited. Until pak military stops these state sponsored terror completely on indian its better to penalise them where it hurts them the most which is their pockets.

 

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

You wrote about no security issue. 

I responded to you with the security problems.

Now you come with the response that as others are travelling so India should also travel. It doesn't make any sense.

 

Indian players has been attacked historically in Pak, even when other nationals didn't.....Srikkanth was attempted to be stabbed by an individual in the ground despite all the security.

I’m hoping Pakistan agrees to the hybrid model, as it would highlight the isolation of India’s strategy. It would be ironic to see India playing its own games in Dubai while teams from around the world enjoy the Champions Trophy in Pakistan, where the real excitement will be. This approach would naturally reveal the absurdity and embarrassment of a policy that feels pointless and damaging to India’s reputation.

[Zero_Unit]

If ICC will pander to India at the end of the day, why did they even give the rights to Pakistan to begin with. As if they didn't know that india would not go to pakistan. Sometimes I feel like ICC comes up with these crap just to see some drama unfold. And it's astonding to me that Pakistan thinks they have some sort of god given right to host and everyone has to abid by their hosting rights. Y'all lost everyone's faith on you the day your stupid board let a bunch of gunmen attack the lankans. There is no one else to blame other than your own nation and board. 

Edited November 12, 2024 by Zero_Unit

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

 

 

There was a time when I felt India had a strong narrative globally regarding its issues with Pakistan on terrorism, and many countries aligned with India, leaving Pakistan isolated. For almost a decade no team toured Pakistan. However, in recent years, Pakistan has made significant progress in combating terrorism, and the world has acknowledged these efforts, as shown by the increasing number of international teams now regularly touring Pakistan and Pakistan will be hosting its first ICC event. 

Now, India finds itself more isolated, lacking broad support, and its stance is beginning to appear desperate to neutral observers because all other teams are visiting Pakistan and do not agree with India’s stance. Recently, several Australian commentators even mocked the political bias and pettiness of India’s decision to undermine its neighbor’s tournament, pointing out that more is expected from the stronger, larger country than the weaker one and the decision amounts to bullying…

I agree with your point regarding Pakistan trying to impress global community & playing victim card on every single issue.

They have a dedicated ISPR unit for a reason unlike India & I despise GoI to not learn this 5th gen warfare technique from Pakistan.

 

You guys have stronger Propaganda game there is no denying that.

India despite being on the right side of the matter will appear wrong to the outside world.

[singhvivek141]

22 minutes ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

 

I’m hoping Pakistan agrees to the hybrid model, as it would highlight the isolation of India’s strategy. It would be ironic to see India playing its own games in Dubai while teams from around the world enjoy the Champions Trophy in Pakistan, where the real excitement will be. This approach would naturally reveal the absurdity and embarrassment of a policy that feels pointless and damaging to India’s reputation.

Tbh...nothing will highlight. India won't tour Pakistan and every cricketing nation knows it, even ICC.

 

India's reputation won't move down an inch, infact it will again show the world how spineless PCB is if they accept hybrid model.

 

PCB already succumb once for Asia Cup, it will make a fool of itself again. 

 

Infact, PCB should now accept the challenge and go ahead without Indian team. 

[Suhaan]

35 minutes ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

 

I’m hoping Pakistan agrees to the hybrid model, as it would highlight the isolation of India’s strategy. It would be ironic to see India playing its own games in Dubai while teams from around the world enjoy the Champions Trophy in Pakistan, where the real excitement will be. This approach would naturally reveal the absurdity and embarrassment of a policy that feels pointless and damaging to India’s reputation.

Enjoying in paxtani,lol

What's there to enjoy?

[jigjig]

1 hour ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

 

I’m hoping Pakistan agrees to the hybrid model, as it would highlight the isolation of India’s strategy. It would be ironic to see India playing its own games in Dubai while teams from around the world enjoy the Champions Trophy in Pakistan, where the real excitement will be. This approach would naturally reveal the absurdity and embarrassment of a policy that feels pointless and damaging to India’s reputation.

Good..earlier you were saying come India. Now you are saying hybrid model. 

 

Abhi partition ko bhi gaali doge aur gharwapasi bhi karoge 

[jigjig]

34 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Enjoying in paxtani,lol

What's there to enjoy?

Kaboomi Chana

[Frustrated]

8 minutes ago, Itsthedon said:

Your name annoys me @Frustrated. Sarr-gent.

Sar.   It's certainly less annoying than the performance of our cricket team at the moment.  

[Frustrated]

2 minutes ago, Itsthedon said:

Uhg still down from indian performance. 

Our team is yet to hit the rock bottom. 46 AO is not even close to being the worst.   

[Austin 3:!6]

Looks like the tournament will be shifted to SA if Pak refuses to agree with Indian demands. This is a simple case of dada giri and arm twisting which as an Indian fan I don't endorse. If BCCI has a problem of security, why can't they sit out of this tournament and let Pak carry on with other teams? There is an ICC event every year anyway and its not like missing out on CT will be a huge deal. You guys need to understand from Pak pov as well, they got an ICC event after 30 years and BCCI is taking it away from them with pure bullying. This is not fair IMO.

[jigjig]

4 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Looks like the tournament will be shifted to SA if Pak refuses to agree with Indian demands. This is a simple case of dada giri and arm twisting which as an Indian fan I don't endorse. If BCCI has a problem of security, why can't they sit out of this tournament and let Pak carry on with other teams? There is an ICC event every year anyway and its not like missing out on CT will be a huge deal. You guys need to understand from Pak pov as well, they got an ICC event after 30 years and BCCI is taking it away from them with pure bullying. This is not fair IMO.

That Pak has to decide..India only said not coming to Pakistan. 

 

Pakistan wants India in CT. Guess why though 

[Onceuponatime]

1 minute ago, jigjig said:

That Pak has to decide..India only said not coming to Pakistan. 

 

Pakistan wants India in CT. Guess why though 

Why?

[Suhaan]

Just now, Austin 3:!6 said:

Looks like the tournament will be shifted to SA if Pak refuses to agree with Indian demands. This is a simple case of dada giri and arm twisting which as an Indian fan I don't endorse. If BCCI has a problem of security, why can't they sit out of this tournament and let Pak carry on with other teams? There is an ICC event every year anyway and its not like missing out on CT will be a huge deal. You guys need to understand from Pak pov as well, they got an ICC event after 30 years and BCCI is taking it away from them with pure bullying. This is not fair IMO.

BCCI has just informed ICC they won't travel to Pakistan,nowhere they didn't say they will participate in the condition if they hold it somewhere else

So,not the time to be an apologist

It's ICC and even ECB which doesn't want CT without India ,why is it so hard to understand by the apologist army?

It's not BCCI's fault if they bring more money and it's fans

There's no bullying,if one bullet goes past even the guy on bench,who will take responsibility?They are certainly the target

Security issues aren't addressed by ethics,morals and values