India will not travel to Pakistan for ICC Champions Trophy 2025

[Austin 3:!6]

Pakistan Cricket Board seeks advice from its government after India’s refusal to cross the border is confirmed.

 

 

India’s cricket team will not travel to Pakistan for the International Cricket Council (ICC) Champions Trophy 2025, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has confirmed two days after its chairman said the host nation will not accept a “hybrid model” for hosting its cross-border rivals.

 

“The PCB has received an e-mail from the ICC, stating that the Board for Control of Cricket in India (BCCI) has informed them that their team will not travel to Pakistan for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025,” a PCB spokesperson said on Sunday.

 

India will not travel to Pakistan for ICC Champions Trophy 2025: PCB | Cricket News | Al Jazeera

[Aiden]

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/1247381-india-blind-cricketers-get-noc-for-world-cup

 

 

I guess in BCCI mind the blind team have no value or self respect. Got it. 

[Ultimate_Game]

Why is this news? It was always the case and has been the case for nearly two decades now. I find it surprising that people actually find this news surprising.

[Number]

14 minutes ago, Aiden said:

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/1247381-india-blind-cricketers-get-noc-for-world-cup

 

 

I guess in BCCI mind the blind team have no value or self respect. Got it. 

Indian cricket team will be high profile targets for those ZeeHaaDees trained by Lumber one army.

[Ultimate_Game]

22 minutes ago, Aiden said:

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/1247381-india-blind-cricketers-get-noc-for-world-cup

 

 

I guess in BCCI mind the blind team have no value or self respect. Got it. 

 

We have self respect and that's why team is not traveling to Pak. It was known. We haven't traveled to Pak since last couple of decades and we won't. You can't expect us to travel to "dushman mulk" when they're fostering terrorists who master-minded attacks on Indian soil.

[Serpico]

1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

We have self respect and that's why team is not traveling to Pak. It was known. We haven't traveled to Pak since last couple of decades and we won't. You can't expect us to travel to "dushman mulk" when they're fostering terrorists who master-minded attacks on Indian soil.

Only the main cricket team is not traveling, other Indian teams have been going there for a while now. I don't think we can argue that this is a principle based stand

[lemsip]

8 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Only the main cricket team is not traveling, other Indian teams have been going there for a while now. I don't think we can argue that this is a principle based stand

Agreed. Refusing to play Pakistan in any format in any sport would be the principled stand. Currently they happily play Pak in ICC tournaments and other sporting team are continuing to visit Pakistan.  They are doing it because posturing about cricket gets publicity. 

[rageaddict]

Sending Tennis players to Pakistan for Davis Cup , going out of their way to organize regular matches in ICC tournaments and sell it as Match of the Tournament, only showing Deshbhakti by refusing to travel to Pakistan for Cricket Matches.

 

India and BCCI must respect the Sport and treat it as a fair Contest, dont play Bi-Laterals but for ICC Tournaments all teams must travel. Australia were refusing to play in Pakistan since 1996 but even they and all the other International sides are ready to travel today so the security card is not valid.

 

Pakistan come to India during ICC Tournaments, play in front of hostile Crowds and lose matches while India chooses their own venues,  will play in front of India Majority Crowds then whats the point of Pakistan being the Tournament Host.

 

 

Some Mixed Martial Team from India is also visiting Pakstan, kaheka Boycott hai yeh. Pick and Choose type.

[Austin 3:!6]

Pakistan wale bahut gussa ho gaya hai

 

 

 

ICC conveys in writing to PCB that India isn’t travelling to Pakistan to participate in the ICC Champions Trophy 2025.

Sources, reliable & impenetrable reveal PCB has referred it to the Government of Pakistan.

PCB is unrelenting & unsparing not to agree on the hybrid model,… pic.twitter.com/vB86DDQbvN

— Dr. Nauman Niaz (@DrNaumanNiaz) November 10, 2024

Edited November 10 by Austin 3:!6

[Suhaan]

25 minutes ago, rageaddict said:

Sending Tennis players to Pakistan for Davis Cup , going out of their way to organize regular matches in ICC tournaments and sell it as Match of the Tournament, only showing Deshbhakti by refusing to travel to Pakistan for Cricket Matches.

 

India and BCCI must respect the Sport and treat it as a fair Contest, dont play Bi-Laterals but for ICC Tournaments all teams must travel. Australia were refusing to play in Pakistan since 1996 but even they and all the other International sides are ready to travel today so the security card is not valid.

 

Pakistan come to India during ICC Tournaments, play in front of hostile Crowds and lose matches while India chooses their own venues,  will play in front of India Majority Crowds then whats the point of Pakistan being the Tournament Host.

 

 

Some Mixed Martial Team from India is also visiting Pakstan, kaheka Boycott hai yeh. Pick and Choose type.

Do you know, recently they was an explosion in Quetta yesterday itself

ICT is certainly a target,one can't equate ICT with others,we have a history with Pak

Agar apne players ko kuch ho gya toh kitna bh karle wo dossier pe dossier mangenge

[Trichromatic]

Indian cricket team shouldn't travel to Pakistan.

 

PCB shouldn't accomodate any other model and host the tournament entirely within Pakistan.

[Prabhdeep Singh]

Let’s put it this way:

 

2008 - 26/11 happens

 

2009 March - SL replaced India to tour Pakistan due to 26/11

 

2009 March - SL attacked by terrorists

 

 

[Prabhdeep Singh]

India should do the following:

 

Press release:

 

This champions trophy we would not like to participate therefore you can allow SL to participate. We consider this a minor tournament anyway. Good luck with revenue, see you in the next ICC tournament. 

[vvvslaxman]

I think this is to hurt PCB as India vs Pakistan in Pakistan will be  a blockbuster there. 

1 hour ago, rageaddict said:

Sending Tennis players to Pakistan for Davis Cup , going out of their way to organize regular matches in ICC tournaments and sell it as Match of the Tournament, only showing Deshbhakti by refusing to travel to Pakistan for Cricket Matches.

 

India and BCCI must respect the Sport and treat it as a fair Contest, dont play Bi-Laterals but for ICC Tournaments all teams must travel. Australia were refusing to play in Pakistan since 1996 but even they and all the other International sides are ready to travel today so the security card is not valid.

 

Pakistan come to India during ICC Tournaments, play in front of hostile Crowds and lose matches while India chooses their own venues,  will play in front of India Majority Crowds then whats the point of Pakistan being the Tournament Host.

 

 

Some Mixed Martial Team from India is also visiting Pakstan, kaheka Boycott hai yeh. Pick and Choose type.

 

 

I know players like KOhli have more fans in Pakistan. They would love to watch him. But it is what it is.

[wanted_desi]

Just go! 

[vvvslaxman]

Rohit will miss an opportunity to embarrass himself in another ODI tournament

[tapandrun]

3 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Pakistan wale bahut gussa ho gaya hai

 

 

 

 

V.good post, think niaz is from public broadcaster in pak. 

 

Mostly on fact but it kind of hiding alot of facts-- all top 10 most viewed matches are Icc events involving Ind and 5 pak and mostly are like marque games QF and above think only 2 are group stage, so if ind playing marque games the viewership will be high regardless of the other team Ind vs SL 2011 wc final is still the highest viewed cricket match by a big margin.

 

He mentioned that there were 6 meetings with ICC and there was no discussion on Ind not traveling to Pak and in next para he says PCB offered BCCI that their team travel back to Ind after each match ???  if pcb was in such talks why it never came-up in their meeting with icc, how would they not tell that to icc and why was that not brought up to icc by pcb itself.Think bcci's stand was always clear how as a host pcb did bring nt it up and not part of their top 5 points in any icc meetings. Yes its Icc tournament and icc is responsible for bringing the boards on same table but if the issue was long know and discussed upon why not to bring it to icc??

 

Renovations are part of any icc events, icc provides funds for that to every board so hardly anything out of pcb's acnt. Also the renovation were not done for just ind game this is no logic 

 

Also on veto, bcci is not asking them to move out the tournament is just their inability to travel bcoz of govt instruction, bcci gave the options which they think can work.

icc can take or leave it or drop Ind from CT-2025 and invite some other team with Full CT in Pak or ask ind team to give walkovers -- the best option have been exercised previously by teams in icc events.

 

No existing icc sponsors can retract their commitments, there would be a clause for that in the contact and no contract would have asked fr Ind participations.

They may renegotiate that afterwards when extending or renewing the contract, bcci is also doing the samething with its broadcaster.

This may impact potential sponsors bt should not impact existing ones.

 

Pak vs Ind is no longer that big than any other team playing Ind in QF and above stages. And most of the viewership comes from Ind and also the sponsors.

heard that Ind pak games get 3-5 times the advertisements per 10 sec than any-other game not sure how true is that, never seen any vast difference in the advertisements companies- Do not see no advertisements dropping of or some-other getting extra air-time.

 

And these day Ind vs Pak is not that marque event in general public which broadcaster are pushing it to be. 

 

All things aside what are the options ICC have and what are the options PCB have.

 

ICC Options:

• Ask BCCI to check back with goi again ??
• Ask PCB to consider hybrid model and they give them some kind of kick back ??
• Drop Ind from CT-2025 and invite some other team with Full CT in Pak
• Cancel the CT-2025 
• Take event out of Pak tp some other neutral place

PCB Options:

• Play hybrid model
• Work with other boards to pressure ICC and BCCI to make Ind team travel in Pak
• Boycott the CT-2025 and boycott any icc event in Ind 
• Ask ICC go ahead with the schedule without Ind and bring someother team to replace Ind
• Ask for neutral place in favour of somekind of kickbacks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 10 by tapandrun

[rkt.india]

7 hours ago, rageaddict said:

Sending Tennis players to Pakistan for Davis Cup , going out of their way to organize regular matches in ICC tournaments and sell it as Match of the Tournament, only showing Deshbhakti by refusing to travel to Pakistan for Cricket Matches.

 

India and BCCI must respect the Sport and treat it as a fair Contest, dont play Bi-Laterals but for ICC Tournaments all teams must travel. Australia were refusing to play in Pakistan since 1996 but even they and all the other International sides are ready to travel today so the security card is not valid.

 

Pakistan come to India during ICC Tournaments, play in front of hostile Crowds and lose matches while India chooses their own venues,  will play in front of India Majority Crowds then whats the point of Pakistan being the Tournament Host.

 

 

Some Mixed Martial Team from India is also visiting Pakstan, kaheka Boycott hai yeh. Pick and Choose type.

Jutiya hai kya? Since the attack on Lankan team in 2009, Indian cricket team hasn't travelled to Pakistan. We can play Pakistan at the neutral venues and Pakistan can come to India too because their team isn't in danger here but Indian cricket team is high profile, terrorists will be ready to attack on them so their lives can't be put at risk. 

[rkt.india]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

I think this is to hurt PCB as India vs Pakistan in Pakistan will be  a blockbuster there. 

 

 

I know players like KOhli have more fans in Pakistan. They would love to watch him. But it is what it is.

It got nothing to do with economic aspect.

[raki05]

4 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

V.good post, think niaz is from public broadcaster in pak. 

 

Mostly on fact but it kind of hiding alot of facts-- all top 10 most viewed matches are Icc events involving Ind and 5 pak and mostly are like marque games QF and above think only 2 are group stage, so if ind playing marque games the viewership will be high regardless of the other team Ind vs SL 2011 wc final is still the highest viewed cricket match by a big margin.

 

He mentioned that there were 6 meetings with ICC and there was no discussion on Ind not traveling to Pak and in next para he says PCB offered BCCI that their team travel back to Ind after each match ???  if pcb was in such talks why it never came-up in their meeting with icc, how would they not tell that to icc and why was that not brought up to icc by pcb itself.Think bcci's stand was always clear how as a host pcb did bring nt it up and not part of their top 5 points in any icc meetings. Yes its Icc tournament and icc is responsible for bringing the boards on same table but if the issue was long know and discussed upon why not to bring it to icc??

 

Renovations are part of any icc events, icc provides funds for that to every board so hardly anything out of pcb's acnt. Also the renovation were not done for just ind game this is no logic 

 

Also on veto, bcci is not asking them to move out the tournament is just their inability to travel bcoz of govt instruction, bcci gave the options which they think can work.

icc can take or leave it or drop Ind from CT-2025 and invite some other team with Full CT in Pak or ask ind team to give walkovers -- the best option have been exercised previously by teams in icc events.

 

No existing icc sponsors can retract their commitments, there would be a clause for that in the contact and no contract would have asked fr Ind participations.

They may renegotiate that afterwards when extending or renewing the contract, bcci is also doing the samething with its broadcaster.

This may impact potential sponsors bt should not impact existing ones.

 

Pak vs Ind is no longer that big than any other team playing Ind in QF and above stages. And most of the viewership comes from Ind and also the sponsors.

heard that Ind pak games get 3-5 times the advertisements per 10 sec than any-other game not sure how true is that, never seen any vast difference in the advertisements companies- Do not see no advertisements dropping of or some-other getting extra air-time.

 

And these day Ind vs Pak is not that marque event in general public which broadcaster are pushing it to be. 

 

All things aside what are the options ICC have and what are the options PCB have.

 

ICC Options:

• Ask BCCI to check back with goi again ??
• Ask PCB to consider hybrid model and they give them some kind of kick back ??
• Drop Ind from CT-2025 and invite some other team with Full CT in Pak
• Cancel the CT-2025 
• Take event out of Pak tp some other neutral place

PCB Options:

• Play hybrid model
• Work with other boards to pressure ICC and BCCI to make Ind team travel in Pak
• Boycott the CT-2025 and boycott any icc event in Ind 
• Ask ICC go ahead with the schedule without Ind and bring someother team to replace Ind
• Ask for neutral place in favour of somekind of kickbacks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

+ ICC has also allocated a fund in advance to poor cricket board(pcb) for hybrid model in case bcci pulls out. So what this doc is saying is not 100% true.