5 jihadi journalists evaporated

[bharathh]

I completely condone violence against terrorists. That is the only language they understand and respect. Point in case how the muslims love China despite them cracking down on their ummah there.

[straighttalk]

11 minutes ago, bharathh said:

I completely condone violence against terrorists. That is the only language they understand and respect. Point in case how the muslims love China despite them cracking down on their ummah there.

Journalists are not terrorists..

[bharathh]

13 minutes ago, straighttalk said:

Journalists are not terrorists..

 

Cavorting around with Hamas makes them that. They are propagandists pretending to be journalists. They may have qualified to be a journalist if they had reported on what the Hamas did as well. Surprisingly light on news on Hamas no?

[Lord]

9 minutes ago, bharathh said:

 

9 minutes ago, bharathh said:

Cavorting around with Hamas makes them that. They are propagandists pretending to be journalists. They may have qualified to be a journalist if they had reported on what the Hamas did as well. Surprisingly light on news on Hamas no?

 

Every news media is biased one way or the other. That doesnt make them terrorists 

[kepler37b]

6 hours ago, IndianRenegade said:

yeah.. you can be an hardline state as long as you have big brother USA backing up anything you do. Who exactly is going tback India when the inevitabvle sancations that comes with this starts to hit?

If we are scared of economic sanctions, perhaps we deserve to be a vassal state. Roadblocks are inevitable. India has much larger population. It will chug through and the world will comply.

[kepler37b]

44 minutes ago, straighttalk said:

Journalists are not terrorists..

I think you have not seen an average al Jazeera journalist. 

[kepler37b]

6 hours ago, EnterTheVoid said:

 

Role model for what?

 

Two years on and what is there to show for it?

 

Hostages still in captivity. 40, 000+ dead. Hundreds of thousands more injured. 2 million people starving.

 

Israeli soldiers refusing further tours to Gaza. Suicides amongst soldiers that have served in Gaza.

Israel over reacted to the Hamas attacks. 

 

I do not agree with every action of Israel.

 

But the sense of religious nationalism, even at the higher end of PCI GDP is remarkable.  

[kepler37b]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

Poor OP. I don't condone killings or take joy in deaths of anyone but terrorists. Mainly because its the family that suffers for not much fault.

 

Also those journalists might be writing anti -India stuff on behest of their masters at Al-Jazeera. That will continue anyway. If anything its those masters that need to be punished.

I hate those MFers with all the guts.

 

I am old enough to notice the anti hindu campaign they did to stop Modi and rise of hindutva. The way they insulted hindu response to Islamic barbarism in 2002.

 

I will enjoy their death and destruction.

 

[kepler37b]

The left eco system has already emboldened as it sees a weakness in the BJP camp.

 

I completely support the israeli ambassador.

 

 

 

 

[bharathh]

53 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

 

Every news media is biased one way or the other. That doesnt make them terrorists 

 

They are not media - they are mouthpieces for a terrorist organization. They are members of Hamas. That makes them terrorists. We can agree to disagree. I am not trying to change your mind/opinion here - just stating mine.

[IndianRenegade]

1 hour ago, kepler37b said:

If we are scared of economic sanctions, perhaps we deserve to be a vassal state. Roadblocks are inevitable. India has much larger population. It will chug through and the world will comply.

there is always risk reward, it is not about being scared of economic santions. Is an army scared of fighting a war? probably not, does it mean it needs to get into a war just because it isn't scared of a war. We had an existential threat without weaponised nukes, so we endured santions. What is the existential threat now? Trying to be a hard hinutva state when you have a popluation of Pakistan that are muslims plus other minorities who may not be comfortable with hard hindutva isn't going to be great for internal stability.

 

then, you are surrounded by external threats China, Pakistan, we now seem to be adding US. India still has crores of ppl getting govt assistance & is still somewhat of a poor country in parts. Large parts of thye country look filthy like subsaharan africa, corruption is the norm, ppl lack civic sense. instead of fighting the battles that will move the country forward this obsession to be hinu equivalent of israel when we aren't remotely close to it HDI will not end well.

 

It needs to spend all its energy rapidly in developing its human resources to the world that is going to change with AI. All this bombast will get us only so far, India needs to unite its ppl & move forward. India is at the corssroads, make the right decisions, Only Advance! 

Edited August 13, 2025 by IndianRenegade

[kepler37b]

27 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said:

there is always risk reward, it is not about being scared of economic santions. Is an army scared of fighting a war? probably not, does it mean it needs to get into a war just because it isn't scared of a war. We had an existential threat without weaponised nukes, so we endured santions. What is the existential threat now? Trying to be a hard hinutva state when you have a popluation of Pakistan that are muslims plus other minorities who may not be comfortable with hard hindutva isn't going to be great for internal stability.

 

then, you are surrounded by external threats China, Pakistan, we now seem to be adding US. India still has crores of ppl getting govt assistance & is still somewhat of a poor country in parts. Large parts of thye country look filthy like subsaharan africa, corruption is the norm, ppl lack civic sense. instead of fighting the battles that will move the country forward this obsession to be hinu equivalent of israel when we aren't remotely close to it HDI will not end well.

 

It needs to spend all its energy rapidly in developing its human resources to the world that is going to change with AI. All this bombast will get us only so far, India needs to unite its ppl & move forward. India is at the corssroads, make the right decisions, Only Advance! 

Your diagnosis of problem is wrong.

 

India is piss poor as her citizens refuse to work with each other in a co-operative manner. NOT due to some historical wrong committed by outsiders.  A hindutva based state will give them a common identity and make them work together for a stronger civilizational state. It will lead to economic progress and good life for all the citizens.

 

I have no issues with minorities that want to co-exist and are not interested in converting all of india to their faith. The flashpoint is going to be with the monotheist minorities. The solution is concerted effort at re-conversion or allocating a independent land from our geographical area. The cancer has to be cut away. It will involve some pain.

[Alam_dar]

9 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Show me proof of where you see radical demented HINDUTVA is as devastating as ISIS /Al- qaeda/ Hamas to put them in the same sentence. Just equating all religions as same is one left liberal  thought that holds back Hinduism. Hindutva is Hinduism , there is no difference.  There is no radical Hinduism to go around stereotyping. 

 

It doesn't matter if it is as bad as ISIS or Hamas, but it is still bad. 

 

Do you really not consider this fanatic right wing Zionism to be evil when it claims that it has all the right to kill and kick out all Palestinians from their country, while their so-called GOD gave this entire land to the Jews as their birthright. 

 

The lesson is, it may be these Zionists are not as bad as Hamas, but they are still bad. 

 

Religious nationalist movements almost always turn into FASCIST movements in the end. Far right Christian nationalists in the US (or even in the EU) may not be as bad as Hamas, but they are bad, they will kick out dirty foreigners (including Indian) out of the US and EU. 

 

 

[straighttalk]

4 hours ago, bharathh said:

 

Cavorting around with Hamas makes them that. They are propagandists pretending to be journalists. They may have qualified to be a journalist if they had reported on what the Hamas did as well. Surprisingly light on news on Hamas no?

So being biased is cause enough to bomb someone...so dogmatic Muslims can now bomb arnab shiv aroor or the CNN 18  newscasters...

[straighttalk]

1 hour ago, kepler37b said:

Your diagnosis of problem is wrong.

 

India is piss poor as her citizens refuse to work with each other in a co-operative manner. NOT due to some historical wrong committed by outsiders.  A hindutva based state will give them a common identity and make them work together for a stronger civilizational state. It will lead to economic progress and good life for all the citizens.

 

I have no issues with minorities that want to co-exist and are not interested in converting all of india to their faith. The flashpoint is going to be with the monotheist minorities. The solution is concerted effort at re-conversion or allocating a independent land from our geographical area. The cancer has to be cut away. It will involve some pain.

Just like a minority of Hindus want a hard HINDUVTA state..similarly some demented Islamic radicals want to make India a Islamic country...just like you hate them and paint most Muslims in the same paint..similarly the hatred your spread makes all of us look bad.

 

As hindus and Muslims fight over these non issues and mangalsutra...we are abysmal in poverty eradication job creation infrastructure  development etc..and Rahul Gandhi ideas of reservation is not gonna solve it...but getting stuck in politics of religious divide and not voting for development will surely put us back many decades. Measure the govt on human development index improvement and other economic and peace goals not on some imaginary threat.

[Alam_dar]

4 hours ago, bharathh said:

 

Cavorting around with Hamas makes them that. They are propagandists pretending to be journalists. They may have qualified to be a journalist if they had reported on what the Hamas did as well. Surprisingly light on news on Hamas no?

3 hours ago, kepler37b said:

 

 

2 hours ago, bharathh said:

 

They are not media - they are mouthpieces for a terrorist organization. They are members of Hamas. That makes them terrorists. We can agree to disagree. I am not trying to change your mind/opinion here - just stating mine.

 

 

On one side, these journalists are declared terrorists only for having a different opinion. 

 

On the other side, Israeli supreme court announced 26 illegal settlements in the West Bank to be a part of Israel (since October 7)  +  Israeli settlers and army have killed over 916 Palestinians in the West Bank, which has nothing to do with Hamas, but Israeli settlers simply come, beat Palestinians, take their homes, and if they resist, then Israeli armed forces kill them  +  According to the International Commission of Jurists (ICJ), between October 7 and December 27, 2023, Israeli settlers carried out at least 367 violent attacks against Palestinians in the West Bank, resulting in displacement and injuries. Only two settlers were arrested during this period, and no indictments were filed.

 

But still only al-Jazeera journalists are terrorists for having a difference of opinion, but Israeli state and Israeli settlers are not terrorists. 

 

 

[kepler37b]

1 minute ago, straighttalk said:

Just like a minority of Hindus want a hard HINDUVTA state..similarly some demented Islamic radicals want to make India a Islamic country...just like you hate them and paint most Muslims in the same paint..similarly the hatred your spread makes all of us look bad.

 

As hindus and Muslims fight over these non issues and mangalsutra...we are abysmal in poverty eradication job creation infrastructure  development etc..and Rahul Gandhi ideas of reservation is not gonna solve it...but getting stuck in politics of religious divide and not voting for development will surely put us back many decades. Measure the govt on human development index improvement and other economic and peace goals not on some imaginary threat.

Oh yes. You sometimes become the enemy you despise to fight the same enemy. But that is the law of warfare. You cannot offer a rose to the barbarian that wants to cut your throat.

[straighttalk]

3 hours ago, bharathh said:

 

They are not media - they are mouthpieces for a terrorist organization. They are members of Hamas. That makes them terrorists. We can agree to disagree. I am not trying to change your mind/opinion here - just stating mine.

Where is the proof? Israel accused one of them...what about the other journalists. You can't just say he is Hamas without providonf evidence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/11/world/middleeast/al-jazeera-journalists-bios.html

[straighttalk]

3 hours ago, kepler37b said:

I think you have not seen an average al Jazeera journalist. 

Looks or actions or there news coverage or religion ..what makes them terrorist

[Alam_dar]

Al-Jazeera also had a Palestinian Christian Journalist, but an Israeli soldier shot her dead while she was also a terrorist.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shireen_Abu_Akleh

 

Shireen Abu Akleh^[a] (Arabic: شيرين أبو عاقلة, romanized: Šīrīn Abū ʿĀqila; April 3, 1971 – May 11, 2022) was a prominent Palestinian-American journalist who worked as a reporter for 25 years for Al Jazeera, before she was killed by Israeli forces while wearing a blue press vest and covering a raid on the Jenin refugee camp in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

 

Upon her death on May 11, 2022, Israel denied responsibility and blamed Palestinian militants. However, it gradually changed its narrative until admitting she was likely "accidentally" killed by Israeli fire, but refused to undertake a criminal investigation.^[8][9][10] The admission came after several independent investigations were conducted by international media outlets, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, and the United States Department of State.^[10] Forensic Architecture refuted Israel's findings on September 20 and said Abu Akleh was deliberately targeted and denied medical aid after she was shot.^[11]