5 jihadi journalists evaporated

[kepler37b]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/five-al-jazeera-journalists-killed-in-israeli-strike-on-gaza-city-israel-labels-anas-al-sharif-hamas-terrorist-9059460?pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll_Imagetopscroll

 

I do not condone violence. But for al jazeera, I can give an exception. Weirdly i am happy to see this news. 

 

These Al-jazeera MFers have been in constant bad PR for india and hindutva. 

[diga]

Good riddance.. whatever the libtards think, its important to win both information war & on the ground. 

[kepler37b]

i will be even more happy if taliban blows some journalists of washington post/reuters and the economist. These are proper enemies of our civilization. 

[Gollum]

Many Al Jazeera terrorists in India as well, in the guise of reporting they spread ISI/Pak fauj propaganda sitting here. How that media network isn't banned in India is beyond me. 

[kepler37b]

India has economic interests in the middle east. With Arab states.

 

I believe that is the only reason.

[kepler37b]

I sincerely hope India becomes a hard hindutva state. Israel is a role model.

 

 

Unbelievable based-ness from the ambassador.

 

 

 

 

[Alam_dar]

3 hours ago, kepler37b said:

I sincerely hope India becomes a hard hindutva state. Israel is a role model.

 

 

I believe a hardline Hindutva state would be just as bad as the far-right Christian nationalist movements we're seeing in the U.S. and Europe, or an extremist Islamic state. They all share that dangerous vision of wanting to kick out others to create a "pure" nation. Yes, BJP and other far right Hindus also want to make their India "pure" by kicking out all Muslims, and when possible, then also all Christians too. 

 

It's easy to forget that many Islamic countries were a lot more secular back in the 50s and 60s, from Yasser Arafat's Al-Fatah to leaders like Anwar Sadat in Egypt. But then we saw this huge wave of fundamentalism, and honestly, the creation of Israel played a massive role in that. Radical Islamic parties used Israel as an excuse to spread a message of hatred, and it gave them a huge boost in popularity and power. I genuinely believe that without the illegal creation of Israel, we would see a much more secular and less radicalized Islamic world today.

 

The birth of Hamas itself came after Israel repeatedly refused to stop its illegal settlements. Even when Yasser Arafat's Al-Fatah was willing to accept Israel's right to exist, Israel wouldn't recognize a Palestinian state or end the settlements. This made Al-Fatah lose all credibility with the Palestinian people and created a vacuum that Hamas was able to fill.

 

And the brutality isn't just confined to Gaza. Since October 7th, the Israeli army and settlers have killed around 500 Palestinians in the West Bank, a place that has nothing to do with Hamas's control. Israeli settlers are actively driving Palestinians out of their homes by force, and the Israeli government isn't punishing them. In fact, the Israeli Supreme Court has even declared some of these illegal settlements part of Israel. When the army itself is committing these crimes, it's a huge problem.

 

If we ignore these injustices and atrocities today, we're setting a precedent that will eventually be used against us. We need to build a truly modern, civilized world where justice is for everyone, not just those with power. We need to get past this "might is right" mentality that leaders like Trump, Netanyahu, and Modi seem to embody. This kind of thinking always ends in war and the deaths of millions of innocent people, just like what we're seeing with the genocide of women and children in Gaza.

 

I'm not blind to the other side. This same destructive mentality exists in the Islamic world, where it has turned followers into blind, bloodthirsty extremists. The hatred people feel towards them isn't without reason.

 

My biggest wish is for a truly secular world that could stand up to all of these fanatics, be it Trump, Netanyahu, Erdogan, Putin, and Modi, or the Islamic extremists like Iran, Hamas, and the Taliban. 

 

We (the Secularists) lost credibility and popularity, while we were not hard enough against the crimes of Islamic world. I just hope we understand our mistake, otherwise we will lose this war and far right forces will takeover the world. 

Edited August 12, 2025 by Alam_dar

[kepler37b]

2 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

 

I believe a hardline Hindutva state would be just as bad as the far-right Christian nationalist movements we're seeing in the U.S. and Europe, or an extremist Islamic state. They all share that dangerous vision of wanting to kick out others to create a "pure" nation. Yes, BJP and other far right Hindus also want to make their India "pure" by kicking out all Muslims, and when possible, then also all Christians too. 

 

It's easy to forget that many Islamic countries were a lot more secular back in the 50s and 60s, from Yasser Arafat's Al-Fatah to leaders like Anwar Sadat in Egypt. But then we saw this huge wave of fundamentalism, and honestly, the creation of Israel played a massive role in that. Radical Islamic parties used Israel as an excuse to spread a message of hatred, and it gave them a huge boost in popularity and power. I genuinely believe that without the illegal creation of Israel, we would see a much more secular and less radicalized Islamic world today.

 

The birth of Hamas itself came after Israel repeatedly refused to stop its illegal settlements. Even when Yasser Arafat's Al-Fatah was willing to accept Israel's right to exist, Israel wouldn't recognize a Palestinian state or end the settlements. This made Al-Fatah lose all credibility with the Palestinian people and created a vacuum that Hamas was able to fill.

 

And the brutality isn't just confined to Gaza. Since October 7th, the Israeli army and settlers have killed around 500 Palestinians in the West Bank, a place that has nothing to do with Hamas's control. Israeli settlers are actively driving Palestinians out of their homes by force, and the Israeli government isn't punishing them. In fact, the Israeli Supreme Court has even declared some of these illegal settlements part of Israel. When the army itself is committing these crimes, it's a huge problem.

 

If we ignore these injustices and atrocities today, we're setting a precedent that will eventually be used against us. We need to build a truly modern, civilized world where justice is for everyone, not just those with power. We need to get past this "might is right" mentality that leaders like Trump, Netanyahu, and Modi seem to embody. This kind of thinking always ends in war and the deaths of millions of innocent people, just like what we're seeing with the genocide of women and children in Gaza.

 

I'm not blind to the other side. This same destructive mentality exists in the Islamic world, where it has turned followers into blind, bloodthirsty extremists. The hatred people feel towards them isn't without reason.

 

My biggest wish is for a truly secular world that could stand up to all of these fanatics, be it Trump, Netanyahu, Erdogan, Putin, and Modi, or the Islamic extremists like Iran, Hamas, and the Taliban. 

 

We (the Secularists) lost credibility and popularity, while we were not hard enough against the crimes of Islamic world. I just hope we understand our mistake, otherwise we will lose this war and far right forces will takeover the world. 

Even I hope so. But the basic human psyche will not allow it. If the enemy is fascist in religious ideology, the only way to combat is counter fascism on this side.

 

Hindutva is largely a reactive ideology as response to monotheist intolerance.

Edited August 12, 2025 by kepler37b

[Alam_dar]

1 hour ago, kepler37b said:

Even I hope so. But the basic human psyche will not allow it. If the enemy is fascist in religious ideology, the only way to combat is counter fascism on this side.

 

Hindutva is largely a reactive ideology as response to monotheist intolerance.

 

You’re right, it’s a reaction, and India’s secular forces have completely failed to counter it.

However, stay alert as the far-right nationalist religious movement has every potential to turn themselves fascist, dismantling government institutions and bringing misery to people in one form or another.

 

[straighttalk]

4 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

 

You’re right, it’s a reaction, and India’s secular forces have completely failed to counter it.

However, stay alert as the far-right nationalist religious movement has every potential to turn themselves fascist, dismantling government institutions and bringing misery to people in one form or another.

 

Absolutely hardline HINDUVTA is radical sick twisted demented and needs to be stopped by secular forces else hinduism runs the risk of being destroyed and becoming like radical islam.

 

This thread itself is proof of how demented these folks are. They can't counter the words or information from the reporters...hence they celebrate their killings and deaths...targeted murder of journalists are a war crime...but only thugs who don't have a counter point try to silence people with pen..but in the same token admit that they lost the argument.

[mishra]

Not a single Christian majority state is not A Democracy. Not a single Muslim majority state is Democracy. @kepler37b Don’t get fooled into the crap and teachings by a Muslim. They always push the same agenda. Some with words some with swords.

 

Re read that large crap posted by the guy who somehow made u approve when he actually was proposing idea of Evils emanating from Hinduism

[Alam_dar]

17 minutes ago, mishra said:

Not a single Christian majority state is not A Democracy. Not a single Muslim majority state is Democracy. @kepler37b Don’t get fooled into the crap and teachings by a Muslim. They always push the same agenda. Some with words some with swords.

 

Re read that large crap posted by the guy who somehow made u approve when he actually was proposing idea of Evils emanating from Hinduism

 

The issue is, fascist nationalist religious evils of non-Muslim world will not go away by comparing yourself with the Muslim world. 

 

We can see this evil of fascism where Christian Putin is attacking and killing Christian Ukraine. 

 

This fascism will make Trump to attack and occupy Canada and Greenland sooner or later. 

 

We saw the evils of fascism in the World War 2. 

 

Trump and other far right fascists consider Indians to be impure and dirty. Those were only Secularists who considered Indians to be equal humans, who in a way helped Indians to come and establish in the US. But Secularists were betrayed not only by Muslims, but also by other far right groups too. 

 

Civilized world, which was established after the world war II, is coming to an end. And now the era of "Might is Right" and "Law of the Jungle" is starting where words of far right people like Trump and Modi will be the law of the the country. 

 

 

 

 

[mishra]

16 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

The issue is, fascist nationalist religious evils of non-Muslim world will not go away by comparing yourself with the Muslim world. 

 

We can see this evil of fascism where Christian Putin is attacking and killing Christian Ukraine. 

 

This fascism will make Trump to attack and occupy Canada and Greenland sooner or later. 

 

We saw the evils of fascism in the World War 2. 

 

Trump and other far right fascists consider Indians to be impure and dirty. Those were only Secularists who considered Indians to be equal humans, who in a way helped Indians to come and establish in the US. But Secularists were betrayed not only by Muslims, but also by other far right groups too. 

 

Civilized world, which was established after the world war II, is coming to an end. And now the era of "Might is Right" and "Law of the Jungle" is starting where words of far right people like Trump and Modi will be the law of the the country. 

 

 

 

 

Aftaab ko Chiraag Dikhana

[straighttalk]

The correct approach is to denounce and resist evil emanating in the name of religion be it Islam Christian or Hinduisms..a true spiritual person do not call for violence or killings or destroying peoples livelihood .but politics and nationalism in the name of relations results in terrorism bigotry lynching and violence. It is true for each and every religion...misused by a small minority 

[EnterTheVoid]

15 hours ago, kepler37b said:

I sincerely hope India becomes a hard hindutva state. Israel is a role model.

 

 

Unbelievable based-ness from the ambassador.

 

 

 

 

 

Role model for what?

 

Two years on and what is there to show for it?

 

Hostages still in captivity. 40, 000+ dead. Hundreds of thousands more injured. 2 million people starving.

 

Israeli soldiers refusing further tours to Gaza. Suicides amongst soldiers that have served in Gaza.

[IndianRenegade]

16 hours ago, kepler37b said:

I sincerely hope India becomes a hard hindutva state. Israel is a role model.

 

 

Unbelievable based-ness from the ambassador.

 

 

 

 

yeah.. you can be an hardline state as long as you have big brother USA backing up anything you do. Who exactly is going tback India when the inevitabvle sancations that comes with this starts to hit?

[coffee_rules]

5 hours ago, straighttalk said:

Absolutely hardline HINDUVTA is radical sick twisted demented and needs to be stopped by secular forces else hinduism runs the risk of being destroyed and becoming like radical islam.

 

This thread itself is proof of how demented these folks are. They can't counter the words or information from the reporters...hence they celebrate their killings and deaths...targeted murder of journalists are a war crime...but only thugs who don't have a counter point try to silence people with pen..but in the same token admit that they lost the argument.

Show me proof of where you see radical demented HINDUTVA is as devastating as ISIS /Al- qaeda/ Hamas to put them in the same sentence. Just equating all religions as same is one left liberal  thought that holds back Hinduism. Hindutva is Hinduism , there is no difference.  There is no radical Hinduism to go around stereotyping. 

[ravishingravi]

If Al Jazeera has journalists, Osama is copy writer

[straighttalk]

3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Show me proof of where you see radical demented HINDUTVA is as devastating as ISIS /Al- qaeda/ Hamas to put them in the same sentence. Just equating all religions as same is one left liberal  thought that holds back Hinduism. Hindutva is Hinduism , there is no difference.  There is no radical Hinduism to go around stereotyping. 

What has happened to Islam ..killing people in the name of religion fueled terrorism is the end state...the slide to dogmatism doesn't happen in one day. Intolerance , hatred for other people and other culture leads to mob mentality, centralization of power , and then starts with  demonization dehumanization and solving past grievances. Hinduism is known for its tolerance though our past is filled with abhorrent rituals like sati caste system etc.  

 

However HINDUVTA is based on religion based nationalism  which wants to establish a Hindu India that means Muslims who are part of India will have to be removed ...how is that fair on the Muslims. It calls for undemocratic measures to overthrow govt in Bengal. It celebrates killing of Muslim journalists because they are critical. It paints anyone questioning the govt in power as not patriotic. These are all hallmarks of authoritarian power grab. Today it's religion. Tomorrow it will be language. Then it will be sexuality and freedom of expression. Next it will be endless war to integrate akhand Bharat. We are not equivalent to Islam..but if unchecked this hatred grows into a monster that can't be controlled. 

 

And no HINDUVTA is not Hinduism. Hinduism is a religion with origins centuries past .. Hinduvta is a relatively recent political concept coined by Savarkar a man with very questionable and detestable beliefs. They are fundamentally different. Savarkar calls for suppressing women   rape and many other ideas to establish Hindu superiority ..Hinduism on the other hand is a spiritual concept established on Dharmic principles...they cannot be farther apart.

 

 

Without going into hyperbole...let's do a simple parallel. Nazism didn't start with killing Jews. Hitler didn't like Jews so he put them in concentration camps. Here we don't consider Al Jazeera reporters journalist. Let's say they are biased or more likely challenging the HINDUVTA viewpoint. We are celebrating unarmed reporters getting killed. Without any reason..they are labeled jehadi..and fit to be killed because they are Muslims. So now we can just label someone Jehadi just because they are Muslims and have them encountered...we already kill people for eating beef jn the country.  This is why this abhorrent idealogy needs to be resisted by true spiritual  Hindus to avoid the black mark that hangs over Islam due to inaction. 

 

In further parallel we already jail or file cases against politicians and journalists who questions people in power. Often times those cases are dropped after election or if the said person join a certain party and in some cases the minority party comes to power by implementing such unsavory practices. There is literally very few independent mainstream media left in the country...hostile takeover has consigned every channel into opinion and propaganda channels...an echo chamber with 0 dissent...anything that is questioning the narrative sees you labeled as a deshdrohi and the people are filled with the same news. If you look at how Nazis rose to power, it is the same playbook. We are not there yet and hopefully we don't reach that level.

Edited August 13, 2025 by straighttalk

[Lord]

Poor OP. I don't condone killings or take joy in deaths of anyone but terrorists. Mainly because its the family that suffers for not much fault.

 

Also those journalists might be writing anti -India stuff on behest of their masters at Al-Jazeera. That will continue anyway. If anything its those masters that need to be punished.