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On 11/20/2025 at 6:45 PM, Lone Wolf said:

We are fighting a civilizational battle with Pakistan backed by Abrahamaics (Jews included).

 

Coming decades won't be easy for the country to deal with.

 

Sooner people understand the better.

 

Combined Pakistan and Afghanistan's TFR ensures (discounting any future black swan events) that by 2070 their combined population will be over 700 million.

 

This would be roughly quite close to China in that time frame.

 

The entire Subcontinent's population centre shift will be towards the North West.

 

We have to stop this from happening

 

This can stop once

1. We get rid of 0.5 front from inside.

2. We sort our issues with China, even if the govt is communist,culturally they are still dharmic.

3. Become powerful enough, both militarily and economically.

4. Remove Temples from the control of govt.

5. Align all Dharmic religions (Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikkhi) under one umbrella and Abrahamic ones under another.

6. Finally, and this is where point 2 is important. Secure the South East Asia. Protect the countries like Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, SL etc from the control of Abrahamic influence. 

 

China has superpower ambition, and we are their adversary. But if India falls like Persia or Constantinople...it's game over for China as well.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

This can stop once

1. We get rid of 0.5 front from inside.

2. We sort our issues with China, even if the govt is communist,culturally they are still dharmic.

3. Become powerful enough, both militarily and economically.

4. Remove Temples from the control of govt.

5. Align all Dharmic religions (Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikkhi) under one umbrella and Abrahamic ones under another.

6. Finally, and this is where point 2 is important. Secure the South East Asia. Protect the countries like Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, SL etc from the control of Abrahamic influence. 

 

China has superpower ambition, and we are their adversary. But if India falls like Persia or Constantinople...it's game over for China as well.

Projections are based if no black swan events takes place... There will be a nuclear exchange for sure in the given time period.  There is no other way I see it.

 

Pashtun TFR will be a bigger issue than Pakjabi TFR in 2050.  Pakjabis have proven that you can bring them in line with a few lashes like their military usually does and liberalism will probably collapse their TFR eventually. Dealing with Pashtuns will require something big though.

 

NWFP and Pashtun Pakjabi rivalry should be utilised to the fullest in coming decades.

 

China's aging old population will heavily rely on India and Pakistan to eventually keep the struggle going...  Suits West perfectly as well.

 

Water Scarcity will cause Famines in Pakistan as well there will be a refugee crisis at our borders so we gotta make sure we have a fully electrified futuristic modern style fencing already done with a capable military on our side.

 

Gotta start sharpening our nukes in 2030's..  start testing next decade itself 

 

Do whatever you gotta do at home in the coming 2 decades.   Stabilise Hindu TFR,  UC TFR has gone to the dogs already so there's the blackpill.

Hindu ethics must be altered to the changing realities.  Start thinking rationally like Chinese or you won't be prepared for what's coming.

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1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Projections are based if no black swan events takes place... There will be a nuclear exchange for sure in the given time period.  There is no other way I see it.

 

Pashtun TFR will be a bigger issue than Pakjabi TFR in 2050.  Pakjabis have proven that you can bring them in line with a few lashes like their military usually does and liberalism will probably collapse their TFR eventually. Dealing with Pashtuns will require something big though.

 

NWFP and Pashtun Pakjabi rivalry should be utilised to the fullest in coming decades.

 

Pashtun TFR is the one reason I dont want Akhand Bharat. Specially not the part of Pakjab. The lands of Amarkot should be part of ours..

We need to keep a narrow strip of Pakjab as a buffer between us and Pashtoons.

 

Anyway, so far what we have seen from Taliban. They just want the borders till the times of Maharaja Ranjit Singh's empire. 

 

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Water Scarcity will cause Famines in Pakistan as well there will be a refugee crisis at our borders so we gotta make sure we have a fully electrified futuristic modern style fencing already done with a capable military on our side.

 

Gotta start sharpening our nukes in 2030's..  start testing next decade itself 

 

I have a different opinion. Mostly the educated or rich Pakjabis will move to States and Europe. The ones left behind will eventually be ruled by China or US as Pakjabis will sell every inch of their land. They dont have in them to struggle hard. But you're right that BSF need to push back hard if any infiltration attempt happens.

 

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Do whatever you gotta do at home in the coming 2 decades.   Stabilise Hindu TFR,  UC TFR has gone to the dogs already so there's the blackpill.

Hindu ethics must be altered to the changing realities.  Start thinking rationally like Chinese or you won't be prepared for what's coming.

 

TFR will only rise if we spread the development from Tier 1 cities to Tier 2 & Tier 3. Coz so many folks are

Cities like Chandigarh, Indore, Vizag, Nagpur, Guwahati, Patna, Lucknow, Jaipur, Kochi, Trivandrum etx needs to rise up fast. This will avoid the massive migration and accordingly the stress.

 

 

Posted (edited)
30 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Pashtun TFR is the one reason I dont want Akhand Bharat. Specially not the part of Pakjab. The lands of Amarkot should be part of ours..

We need to keep a narrow strip of Pakjab as a buffer between us and Pashtoons.

 

Anyway, so far what we have seen from Taliban. They just want the borders till the times of Maharaja Ranjit Singh's empire. 

An average Joe in India doesn't knows what Pashtuns are all about... Pakjabis are right on one thing is that you cannot coexist with Pashtuns peacefully ever... It's the nature of the beast really.

 

I am certain Indian think tank and policy makers also know this fact.  Staying away from them is best possible deal..

As I said Pashtun Pakjabi rivalry is real and there are fault lines to be exploited.

Technically we should have no interest in Pakistani land even for religious reasons.   Gilgit Baltistan won't be reclaimed anyways without a full fledged war and a possible nuclear exchange.

 

It's the Pakistani elites who still rule there coz there have been no reforms post Independence there..  their TFR is decent not outlandish.

 

In their case their LC's are breeding like pigs...  Elites will continue to hold monopoly so by design power shift won't happen there.

Liberalism will ensure TFR will see a fall as projected by UN.   How much it impacts their LC's is still up in the air..

 

 

Indian TFR will continue to fall and there is no way to stop it ideally.  Growth and economic prosperity basically ensures it.  Our current UN projections paints similar picture.

 

We have to ensure the population stays productive as we are more than blessed with enough manpower to dominate Subcontinent if we do things right.

 

Point was things are bound to get tougher for us in coming decades.

 

 

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If the LOC is made the permanent border and Pakistan is forced to stop and stop funding terrorist attacks , that's a win win. At this point , there should not be any talk of annexing PoK. People have migrated enmasse from Pakjab to there whereas our government is too tattu to change demographics from our side. 

 

Even if those guys overthrow the Pakjab govt and open their borders to indian army, I wouldn't be in favour of annexing that. The demographics alone will prove a massive headache. 

Posted
21 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

China has superpower ambition, and we are their adversary. But if India falls like Persia or Constantinople...it's game over for China as well.

India is too big to fall. There's a reason why the riots (if and when they do happen are contained relatively quickly). It is because 98% of the Indians believe in rule of law. 

 

There's also a reason why the army is undercontrol of the government and not vice versa. We've seen what happened to our neighbours when the army seized control. 

Posted
31 minutes ago, bsriharsha said:

India is too big to fall. There's a reason why the riots (if and when they do happen are contained relatively quickly). It is because 98% of the Indians believe in rule of law. 

 

There's also a reason why the army is undercontrol of the government and not vice versa. We've seen what happened to our neighbours when the army seized control. 

Anna, nothing is impossible.

No one in 90s would have though US will face another challenger post Soviets collapse, now China has risen.

 

Each and every empire in the world, no matter how formidable, will fall down once they stop working on the basic issues.

 

 

Posted
43 minutes ago, bsriharsha said:

Vivek chala Baga dreamworld lo unnadu.

Bharatdeshani super powerga chudalanedi na kala.

Enta kharchayani parvaledu.

Individuals are secondary, nation comes first.

Posted
On 11/23/2025 at 5:11 AM, singhvivek141 said:

Bharatdeshani super powerga chudalanedi na kala.

Enta kharchayani parvaledu.

Individuals are secondary, nation comes first.

kharchu pettadaniki dabbu undalaga, annam leka prajulu madi pothunuru.

Posted
10 hours ago, putrevus said:

kharchu pettadaniki dabbu undalaga, annam leka prajulu madi pothunuru.

There will be no praja if country falls.

 

History has shown us time and time again, how the people of a fallen country are treated. Majority are massacred, only the niche ones are allowed to survive, that too under surveillance.

 

UN is a joke, no one is coming to help.

Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

There will be no praja if country falls.

 

History has shown us time and time again, how the people of a fallen country are treated. Majority are massacred, only the niche ones are allowed to survive, that too under surveillance.

 

UN is a joke, no one is coming to help.

India falling and being ruled by another country is not going to happen in next 100 years.Unless whole world order has changed I don't see any country invading India. 

 

You cannot become stronger nation with majority of population still looking for square meal.

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Posted
4 hours ago, putrevus said:

India falling and being ruled by another country is not going to happen in next 100 years.Unless whole world order has changed I don't see any country invading India. 

 

You cannot become stronger nation with majority of population still looking for square meal.

 

It wont be an invasion directly, it will start with a civil war.

I dont need to call out the fault lines within us....and some particular segment whose loyalty lies with external powers...

 

Anyway, as India continue to grow...the GDP and the GDP per capita will increase as well. Ease of doing business will attract the new entrepreneurs, which will inturn generate employment and empower more folks. 

 

We have doubled our GDP in last 10 years..we can touch 8-8.5 trillion by 2035..and 10 by 2037-38.

 

Key thing is to continue throwing out the parasites from India. 

Posted
9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

It wont be an invasion directly, it will start with a civil war.

I dont need to call out the fault lines within us....and some particular segment whose loyalty lies with external powers...

 

Anyway, as India continue to grow...the GDP and the GDP per capita will increase as well. Ease of doing business will attract the new entrepreneurs, which will inturn generate employment and empower more folks. 

 

We have doubled our GDP in last 10 years..we can touch 8-8.5 trillion by 2035..and 10 by 2037-38.

 

Key thing is to continue throwing out the parasites from India. 

I agree, but throwing parasites out in not going to happen, I can see civil war happening but not this.

 

You live in Hyderabad, there are some localities which were predominantly hindu till 2000s have now become sanctuaries for them .I even heard that it is being done as group effort for last 25 years, they are not letting anyone else buy the properties.

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