Do non-marathis face language issue/aggression/hooliganism/violence in Maharashtra?

[bsriharsha]

3 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

We will rename it as Lucknow-puram or Lucknow-pattanam. 

Lakkapatnam. 

[kepler37b]

13 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Except that the other language here is Hindi which is one of the two official languages at Central level. So one is naturally expected to use these languages to converse outside home states. Most folks don't have problems with English too but just hate Hindi.

 

If that is still a problem, states can make law barring Hindi and do everything legally. But that'll never happen. So this violence is the middle way.

 

In this age of AI language translators, these are petty issues that just make us look weak

People are free to learn hindi. But if some one does not know it ,DO NOT force down the throat by saying it is a national language.

 

[bsriharsha]

Just now, kepler37b said:

People are free to learn hindi. But if some one does not know it ,DO NOT force down the throat by saying it is a national language.

 

One of the biggest myths propagated by the Hindi centrist batch. India doesn't have a national language or a rashtra bhasha 

[bsriharsha]

13 hours ago, Lord said:

that is still a problem, states can make law barring Hindi and do everything legally. But that'll never happen. So this violence is the middle way.

Isn't that what Tamil politicians seek to do ? 

 

The problem is the mindset of people. People migrating down south tend to expect everyone to speak Hindi. And then proceed to mock them for not knowing Hindi or not speaking Hindi well enough. 

 

That hurts the sentiments of the locals and breeds resentment. It's different in the case of hyderabadis as Hindi/Urdu has assimilated well there. But go 70km away from Hyderabad and you'll find quite a lot of people who don't know the language. Go to Andhra and Hindi isn't spoken widely at all. People might know some passable Hindi and aren't judgemental (to the extent kannadigas/tamilians are) when someone speaks Hindi to them but the feeling of resentment at being expected to know Hindi will only grow. 

 

Imposing Hindi above other languages will only stretch the divide more. 

[bsriharsha]

Everything starts from this... And then the resentment starts building. 

 

Bank officials/managers who only know Hindi when posted in interior Karnataka for example. 

 

And politicians are quick to take up this cause for votes. 

 

My cousin who was a government Bank employee routinely started rejecting promotions because he was afraid he would be posted in Bihar/UP. He only took promotions or transfers when his seniors assured him that he would remain in the south. People in south (especially in the banking sector) generally tend to avoid settling in North. Exceptions are there. But that isn't the case when almost every guy in Bihar who writes a bank exam wants to get transferred here. 

 

Same goes for IPS, IAS too

Edited November 24, 2025 by bsriharsha

[kepler37b]

4 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

One of the biggest myths propagated by the Hindi centrist batch. India doesn't have a national language or a rashtra bhasha 

Yes. We have no national language. But some people still use that term.

[BacktoCricaddict]

7 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

Punjabi has more similarities to Hindi than what Telugu/Tamil have. 

True, but they are different enough that I can, by Gaad, clearly identify the exact moment when my Punjabi friend gets truly excited about a topic: that's when the switch invariably flips from Hindi --> Punjabi.

[G_B_]

21 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Gov. business in Mahrashtra can be conducted in Marathi. That's not the issue being discussed here

Can and only are different things

[Lord]

23 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

Can and only are different things

 

But its immaterial. Let Govt. business be ONLY conducted in Marathi. As long as common people aren't being beaten up for not speaking it.

[Lord]

16 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

Punjabi has more similarities to Hindi than what Telugu/Tamil have. 

 

It's easier for people to learn Hindi if they are from the north Indian states. 

 

That said , I've met people in odisha who know Telugu but don't know Hindi. But probably outliers. 

 

South Indian languages are totally different from Hindi in that regard even if they do have influences from Sanskrit creeping in. (quite a lot in case of Telugu) , not so much in case of the other three major languages. 

 

That's true. Was responding to Punjabi bit.

 

In North English is much less common. So if a South Indian is speaking English here people will try to speak broken English to try to communicate. Not take offense normally.

 

With influence of films and poiticians' speeches etc being in Hindi, I'm sure broken Hindi can be attempted. 

[Lord]

17 hours ago, kepler37b said:

People are free to learn hindi. But if some one does not know it ,DO NOT force down the throat by saying it is a national language.

 

 

and don't beat people for speaking Hindi, both are true.

[Lord]

16 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

Isn't that what Tamil politicians seek to do ? 

 

The problem is the mindset of people. People migrating down south tend to expect everyone to speak Hindi. And then proceed to mock them for not knowing Hindi or not speaking Hindi well enough. 

 

That hurts the sentiments of the locals and breeds resentment. It's different in the case of hyderabadis as Hindi/Urdu has assimilated well there. But go 70km away from Hyderabad and you'll find quite a lot of people who don't know the language. Go to Andhra and Hindi isn't spoken widely at all. People might know some passable Hindi and aren't judgemental (to the extent kannadigas/tamilians are) when someone speaks Hindi to them but the feeling of resentment at being expected to know Hindi will only grow. 

 

Imposing Hindi above other languages will only stretch the divide more. 

 

Well if a north Indian visitor goes South and then mocks locals for not speaking Hindi, that's very wrong too.

 

In the end both sides have to adapt for communication

[Lord]

16 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

Everything starts from this... And then the resentment starts building. 

 

Bank officials/managers who only know Hindi when posted in interior Karnataka for example. 

 

And politicians are quick to take up this cause for votes. 

 

My cousin who was a government Bank employee routinely started rejecting promotions because he was afraid he would be posted in Bihar/UP. He only took promotions or transfers when his seniors assured him that he would remain in the south. People in south (especially in the banking sector) generally tend to avoid settling in North. Exceptions are there. But that isn't the case when almost every guy in Bihar who writes a bank exam wants to get transferred here. 

 

Same goes for IPS, IAS too

 

Bank officials/managers are transferred every 3 years in various states. Can't expect them to learn so many local languages

 

But the clerical and sub staff are local and can serve as translators if needed. So if you want to get your work done its very much possible. But if you insist managers speak local language for ego/other reasons, that's very tough.

[bsriharsha]

55 minutes ago, Lord said:

Bank officials/managers are transferred every 3 years in various states. Can't expect them to learn so many local languages

This could easily be sorted by letting the bank officials/managers stay in their home state. But our babus don't keep doing that. There are so many branches of SBI in all the states that the managers can easily be accommodated within their home state. But nope , they simply have to transfer them to other states.

[Lord]

1 hour ago, bsriharsha said:

This could easily be sorted by letting the bank officials/managers stay in their home state. But our babus don't keep doing that. There are so many branches of SBI in all the states that the managers can easily be accommodated within their home state. But nope , they simply have to transfer them to other states.

Yes its convenient for employees too. 

[randomGuy]

Few facts

 

1. In 2011 census, Maharashtra had 68% people saying Marathi as mother tongue. Today in should be probably arnd 65%. And the rest 35% more comfortable with Hindi (and goes without saying -even if born in Maharashtra). Something for @G_B_ to think.

 

2. In Karnataka, there's Belagavi on Maharashtra border. 30-35% marathi n kannada population each who talk to each other in Hindi. And likewise in big cities like Mumbai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Kolkata etc. people from different regions talk in Hindi even if there mother tongue for all is not hindi. 

 

Zabardasti kisi ko local language nahi sikha sakte, I was in Hyderabad for 5 yrs, learned very little Telugu like all my non local colleagues....but today if I am there, i will surely learn much more out of my own interest and respect. It has to come from heart.

[G_B_]

45 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

Few facts

 

1. In 2011 census, Maharashtra had 68% people saying Marathi as mother tongue. Today in should be probably arnd 65%. And the rest 35% more comfortable with Hindi (and goes without saying -even if born in Maharashtra). Something for @G_B_ to think.

 

2. In Karnataka, there's Belagavi on Maharashtra border. 30-35% marathi n kannada population each who talk to each other in Hindi. And likewise in big cities like Mumbai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Kolkata etc. people from different regions talk in Hindi even if there mother tongue for all is not hindi. 

 

Zabardasti kisi ko local language nahi sikha sakte, I was in Hyderabad for 5 yrs, learned very little Telugu like all my non local colleagues....but today if I am there, i will surely learn much more out of my own interest and respect. It has to come from heart.

Ok so how many of the 35% understand marathi. 

 

 

[mishra]

13 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

This could easily be sorted by letting the bank officials/managers stay in their home state. But our babus don't keep doing that. There are so many branches of SBI in all the states that the managers can easily be accommodated within their home state. But nope , they simply have to transfer them to other states.

it is to stop the nexus and corruption. Transfers are must. Personally I know a relative of mine in INdustry and struggles raising kids but there is no alternative.

To bank, Corruption and nexus is bigger issue than employees well being.

To employees, Language is not bigger issue compared to future of their kids.

 

To chewts , its language but to political treasurer , they want corruption and nexus to be back riding language wave

Edited November 25, 2025 by mishra

[Lord]

2 hours ago, mishra said:

it is to stop the nexus and corruption. Transfers are must. Personally I know a relative of mine in INdustry and struggles raising kids but there is no alternative.

To bank, Corruption and nexus is bigger issue than employees well being.

To employees, Language is not bigger issue compared to future of their kids.

 

To chewts , its language but to political treasurer , they want corruption and nexus to be back riding language wave

 

Transfers can still be done within state or atleast to neighbouring states only.

[mishra]

9 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Transfers can still be done within state or atleast to neighbouring states only.

Its generally neighbouring states only. Personally, i know she was xfred  from Punjab to neighbouring Delhi, Delhi to neighbouring UP, UP to neighbouring MP and then Rajsthan. 
 

Neighbour state keeps changing