Nikhil_cric Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Siraj should not even be in contention. Man averages 42 against Top 10 sides after the 2023 Asia Cup. For comparison, Rana averages 27 and Prasidh averages 28 odd. Vk1, deepdynamo and Lord 3
Vk1 Posted July 15 Posted July 15 10 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Siraj should not even be in contention. Man averages 42 against Top 10 sides after the 2023 Asia Cup. For comparison, Rana averages 27 and Prasidh averages 28 odd. Siraj had two meaningless 6fers against Srilanka. It came back to bite us on the big day in Ahmedabad express bowling and Nikhil_cric 2
Lord Posted July 15 Posted July 15 10 minutes ago, Vk1 said: Siraj had two meaningless 6fers against Srilanka. It came back to bite us on the big day in Ahmedabad No On the big day he was used as a 5th bowler after the spinners. May still have failed but there was no reason to change bowling order. He got Head out in the series before the WC too
Lord Posted July 15 Posted July 15 Boom, Gurnoor, Harshit Reserves : Prasidh, Sakib, Nabi/Arshad (no.8)
Vk1 Posted July 15 Posted July 15 12 minutes ago, Lord said: No On the big day he was used as a 5th bowler after the spinners. May still have failed but there was no reason to change bowling order. He got Head out in the series before the WC too shows the confidence of captain. Like i said he didn't do much other than those two 6 wicket hauls
express bowling Posted July 15 Posted July 15 8 minutes ago, Lord said: Reserves : Prasidh, Sakib, Nabi/Arshad (no.8) Have you seen Sakib or Nabi bowl in a 50 over match ? Sakib is yet to debut in List A btw. Have you seen Nabi bat in a decent length innings ? Nikhil_cric 1
Nikhil_cric Posted July 15 Posted July 15 14 minutes ago, Lord said: Boom, Gurnoor, Harshit Reserves : Prasidh, Sakib, Nabi/Arshad (no.8) Post Asia Cup, this is the record. https://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=25;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=40;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=wickets;spanmin1=18+Sep+2023;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=bowling It's pretty clear that Bumrah, Prasidh, Harshit, Arshdeep are our Top 4 options for now. With Gurnoor in the mix . Experience is important in ODI World Cups. Can't just throw in guys like Sakib and Arshad in. Lord 1
Need4Speed Posted July 15 Posted July 15 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Lord said: Boom, Gurnoor, Harshit Reserves : Prasidh, Sakib, Nabi/Arshad (no.8) Selectors will go with Boom Gurnoor Harshit Prasidh and Arshdeep.. Siraj will also be competing for 5th seamer slot.. Sakib , Nabi and Arshad are inexperienced.. Edited July 15 by Need4Speed
Need4Speed Posted July 15 Posted July 15 40 minutes ago, Vk1 said: Siraj had two meaningless 6fers against Srilanka. It came back to bite us on the big day in Ahmedabad Bowling Shami agead of Siraj was a gamble that didnt work well for Rohit.. Siraj and Boom were a good pair in that wcup.. followed bu Shami.. Shami coming at first change was giving enough penetration in the middle.. ofc we are all saying afte thibgs have happened but that pattern was working for us and we broke it..
Manucrick Posted July 15 Posted July 15 The main three bowlers for India should be Bumrah Gurnoor and Rana as he also provides some batting strength
express bowling Posted July 15 Posted July 15 19 minutes ago, Manucrick said: The main three bowlers for India should be Bumrah Gurnoor and Rana as he also provides some batting strength India can even try in SENA 8. Harshit 9. Gurnoor 10. Prasidh 11. Bumrah Manucrick, Vk1 and Need4Speed 3
Manucrick Posted July 15 Posted July 15 Just now, express bowling said: India can even try in SENA 8. Harshit 9. Gurnoor 10. Prasidh 11. Bumrah That is not bad but we need another batsman to replace Washington Parag and Rinku Someone who is better at number 6 and can bowl a few overs too would be ideal express bowling 1
express bowling Posted July 15 Posted July 15 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Manucrick said: That is not bad but we need another batsman to replace Washington Parag and Rinku Someone who is better at number 6 and can bowl a few overs too would be ideal 6. Hardik / Nitish 7. Parag 8. Harshit .. decent batter and big hitter 9. Gurnoor .. can hit. 10. Prasidh ● / Kuldeep / Arshdeep 11. Bumrah ● Replace Prasidh with Kuldeep if any help for spinners. ● Replace Prasidh with Arshdeep if any swing on offer. On pace friendly tracks, we can use 5 proper hit the deck pacers for all the 50 overs. No dibbly dobbly stuff. Opposition will be under tremendous pressure. Edited July 15 by express bowling Manucrick and Need4Speed 2
Manucrick Posted July 15 Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, express bowling said: 6. Hardik / Nitish 7. Parag 8. Harshit .. decent batter 9. Gurnoor .. can hit. 10. Prasidh ● / Kuldeep / Arshdeep 11. Bumrah ● Replace Prasidh with Kuldeep if any help for spinners. ● Replace Prasidh with Arshdeep if any swing on offer. On pace friendly tracks, we can use 5 proper hit the deck pacers for all the 50 overs. No dibbly dobbly stuff. Opposition will be under tremendous pressure. This is perfect but we know that our selectors and management never select a perfect playing eleven since they always make a blunder at the last minute express bowling 1
Need4Speed Posted July 15 Posted July 15 (edited) 42 minutes ago, express bowling said: 6. Hardik / Nitish 7. Parag 8. Harshit .. decent batter and big hitter 9. Gurnoor .. can hit. 10. Prasidh ● / Kuldeep / Arshdeep 11. Bumrah ● Replace Prasidh with Kuldeep if any help for spinners. ● Replace Prasidh with Arshdeep if any swing on offer. On pace friendly tracks, we can use 5 proper hit the deck pacers for all the 50 overs. No dibbly dobbly stuff. Opposition will be under tremendous pressure. If required we can even play Hardik and Nitish(in place of Parag) together…and can just play with one spinner in Kuldeep.. so Hardik and NKR can bowl 5 overs each with relatively higher/consistent pace and dont need to think about full 10 overs.. less chances of body breaking down which is always a question mark on them 6 HaPa/NKR 7 HaPa/NKR/Parag 8 Harshit 9 Gurnoor 10 Kuldeep/Prasidh/Arshdeep 11 Boom Edited July 15 by Need4Speed express bowling 1
express bowling Posted July 15 Posted July 15 36 minutes ago, Manucrick said: This is perfect but we know that our selectors and management never select a perfect playing eleven since they always make a blunder at the last minute Was watching yesterday's match closely. Whenever pacers hit the deck hard at 140 k+ and hit good areas, it was vicious. And, as Gill said, conditions will be similar in South Africa 2027. Axar got MotM but the match was won by the fire of Bumrah - Gurnoor - Prasidh trio. Need one more such pacer in the 11. Manucrick and Need4Speed 2
Need4Speed Posted July 15 Posted July 15 Though I feel TM is trusting more in Prasidh than Gurnoor.. so Gurnoor has to make most of whatever ODI matches he plays going fwd
express bowling Posted July 15 Posted July 15 4 minutes ago, Need4Speed said: If required we can even play Hardik and Nitish(in place of Parag) together…and can just play with one spinner in Kuldeep.. so Hardik and NKR can bowl 5 overs each with relatively higher/consistent pace and dont need to think about full 10 overs.. less chances of body breaking down which is always a question mark on them I think, on most pitches in SA, a spinner, for the sake of it, won't be needed. It would have been different if we had the Kuldeep of late 2010s in ODIs.
express bowling Posted July 15 Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, Need4Speed said: Though I feel TM is trusting more in Prasidh than Gurnoor.. so Gurnoor has to make most of whatever ODI matches he plays going fwd Gurnoor is new. But he is getting chances in ODIs regularly and that is not bad. Need4Speed 1
Need4Speed Posted July 15 Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, express bowling said: Was watching yesterday's match closely. Whenever pacers hit the deck hard at 140 k+ and hit good areas, it was vicious. And, as Gill said, conditions will be similar in South Africa 2027. Axar got MotM but the match was won by the fire of Bumrah - Gurnoor - Prasidh trio. Need one more such pacer in the 11. Ideally need express pace of one of Ashok or Mayank.. if they show good fitnesd and accuracy..however team balance wise.. Harshit will enter.. or Harshit Gurnoor Boom and one of Ashok/Mayank tbh Kartik Tyagi could hv been handy too if he is gets accurate.. can move the bowl,hit the deck,bowl at death.. Anyways future prospects.. express bowling 1
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