Don Sharma Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Well, Lara never had the luxury of playing alongside a decent batting or bowling line up MOST of the times. There are countless matches wherein he scored 150+ runs but the team's total score would be around 300 or something. I need not go beyond the SL series in 2001/02 to prove my point. As a batsman he can only put runs on the board, he can't be held responsible if the bowlers didn't take twenty wickets. Btw I don't want to get involved in this players comparisons. I enjoy(ed) watching Lara, Sehwag and SRT all the same.
The Outsider Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 ^ Utter tosh, Lara played with one of the best opening bowling players of all time - Ambrose and Walsh - for the better part of his career.
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The Outsider Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Lara played 78 out of his 131 tests with Walsh. Lara played 61 out of his 131 tests with Ambrose. Lara played 33 out of his 131 tests with Bishop. Lara played 26 out of his 131 tests with K Benjamin. Lara played 13 out of his 131 tests with W Benjamin. All sub 30 averaging tests bowlers. Any more myths out there? EDIT : He played 80 out of his 131 tests with either Walsh or Ambrose. Pretty feeble bowling attack. Poor Lara!
Don Sharma Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 ^ Utter tosh' date=' Lara played with one of the best opening bowling players of all time - Ambrose and Walsh - for the better part of his career.[/quote'] Six of his double hundreds were scored post Amby, Walsh and Bishop. So what's your claim and please don't say Amby and Walsh were at their prime from late 90s till their retirement.
The Outsider Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Six of his double hundreds were scored after the retirements of Amby' date=' Walsh and Bishop. So what's your claim and please don't say Amby and Walsh were at their prime from late 90s till their retirement.[/quote'] Hmmm... Walsh from '97 till retirement averaged 23 as opposed to his career average of 24. Ambrose from '97 til retirement averaged 20 as opposed to his career average of 21. Sehwag has never played with a bowler averaging even close to 25, forget about 20..... and Ambrose and Walsh weren't stopping Lara from scoring the double hundreds when they were at their "supposed peak" according to you.
Don Sharma Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Hmmm... Walsh from '97 till retirement averaged 23 as opposed to his career average of 24. Ambrose from '97 til retirement averaged 20 as opposed to his career average of 21. Sehwag has never played with a bowler averaging even close to 25, forget about 20..... and Ambrose and Walsh weren't stopping Lara from scoring the double hundreds when they were at their "supposed peak" according to you. I got that wrong, I concede. But you claimed only one out of his nine doubles was in a winning cause and I had mentioned in six of those he didn't get to play alongside Walsh or Curtly, so... Btw you seem to safely stay away from mentioning about the batting "greats" Lara got to play with. Why not compare them with the fab four? Just because you want to big up Sehwag you can't ridicule another great and if cricket is all about numbers then Michael Hussey is the best player carrying the bat today.
The Outsider Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 ^ Don't throw red herrings - I am a huge Lara fan and have followed a lot of his cricket. Hussey? Firstly, let's see him do it over 100 tests. I didn't start the double hundred saga - someone else did saying how the big scores that Lara posted as opposed to Tendulkar led to wins, I rebutted that. So, now you are shifting goal posts from bowling to batting after all your myths have been shattered. You can believe Lara was better than Sehwag all you want, just don't try to cloak it with "facts".
S.Bond Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 ^ Don't throw red herrings - I am a huge Lara fan and have followed a lot of his cricket. Hussey? Firstly, let's see him do it over 100 tests. I didn't start the double hundred saga - someone else did saying how the big scores that Lara posted as opposed to Tendulkar led to wins, I rebutted that. So, now you are shifting goal posts from bowling to batting after all your myths have been shattered. You can believe Lara was better than Sehwag all you want, just don't try to cloak it with "facts". If i agree with you, that sehwag is better than lara... Pls tell me, is sehwag better than rahul dravid? Sachin tendulkar?
Don Sharma Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 So, now you are shifting goal posts from bowling to batting after all your myths have been shattered. Okay, 0-1. Why not throw some numbers on the batsmen too? Let's see how the myths and maths are stacked up.. You can believe Lara was better than Sehwag all you want, just don't try to cloak it with "facts". The same applies the other way too.
deathmonger Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 what you say now? more like matthew hayden but he still has time to redeem himself.
Ultimate_Game Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 what you say now? Sehwag's stats speak for themselves... 2 triple hundreds & one 290+, multiple 200+ all scored at run a ball, averaging 50+ at a SR of near 80. All this achieved while opening the innings :hatsoff: Even if Sehwag hangs up his boots today he would be a legend of the game who changed the way cricket was played, especially opening and showed that batsmen (and that too openers) can win the matches as well.
Number Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 Sachin >> Lara > Kallis > Ponting > Dravid > Sehwag > Sanga.
Deleted_User_1 Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 This must be a joke. "Sh*twag is the greatest FTB of all time, of all time" - Kanye West.
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