riya Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 One has to accept his ability to play in important matches no matter how much we dislike him.Great batsman indeed.
kabira Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 what guys where was he in VB Series Finals, infact two of them. Don't you [removed] understand that you can't score in every game. Sachin has highest number of runs in WCs. Isnt WC big stage. Isnt all the games important in WC barring against minnows.
Sooda Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 Pontings, ok, Sachin aint bad/ But Sachin + Ponting http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=183291
Laaloo Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 what guys where was he in VB Series Finals, infact two of them. Don't you [edited] understand that you can't score in every game. Sachin has highest number of runs in WCs. Isnt WC big stage. Isnt all the games important in WC barring against minnows. It doesn't matter dude. The fact of the matter is that the choker wasn't able to make 256 runs in 96 wc sf against sl and wasnt able to make a meager 360 in 2003 wc final.
kabira Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 One more thing, had Lee and Hauritz scored those last few runs, Pontings big match play would have gone into gutter. He failed in that game. As he said in interview, he likes to take team home. Ricky, why couldnt you take your team home on that must win game, why you had rely on tailenders. :)
Mr. Wicket Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 I see kabira's traditional one-eyed, tunnel visioned hatred of all things Australian still hasn't changed a bit. Just because some people go overboard praising Ponting or Sachin... doesn't mean anyone has to try and make up for them by going excessively over the top in terms of trashing them. They're both outstanding cricketers, and while they have only a year or three left in them right now, let's try and appreciate what they offer - as it is unlikely we will see such batsmen in the coming generation.
Params7 Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 Australia still looks like a super side in cricket right now, with Ponting performing in nearly every game and this new kid T Paine going to be a permanent opener soon.
Mr. Wicket Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 Paine is an exciting young talent. Really glad to see him getting some chances and making the most of them when he can.
Sachinism Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 Personal stats don't always motivate me' date=' [b']I look to finish the job for my team. - Ponting in presentation ceremony.. Yeah - talks like those backed by performance does give me a hard on.. any problem? You still don't seem to understand. You could have carried on riding Pontings [edited] as much as you wanted, there was no need to bring in Sachin's name and especially with a comment like [edited]
Mr. Wicket Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 You could have carried on riding Pontings ** (snip rest) Sachinism, Can we keep it a bit more civil? Particularly as dinakkar's already said he'll chill out.
kabira Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 I see kabira's traditional one-eyed, tunnel visioned hatred of all things Australian still hasn't changed a bit. Just because some people go overboard praising Ponting or Sachin... doesn't mean anyone has to try and make up for them by going excessively over the top in terms of trashing them. They're both outstanding cricketers, and while they have only a year or three left in them right now, let's try and appreciate what they offer - as it is unlikely we will see such batsmen in the coming generation. Thank You. I do hate current australian team but thats different topic. When you visit the forum and see the thread on Sachin hatred, you have no choice but to defend. I am fine to see congrats Ricky threads, but it seems some people here seem to criticize one player to praise other
putrevus Posted October 2, 2009 Author Posted October 2, 2009 Thank You. I do hate current australian team but thats different topic. When you visit the forum and see the thread on Sachin hatred' date=' you have no choice but to defend. I am fine to see congrats Ricky threads, but it seems some people here seem to criticize one player to praise other[/quote'] It is not a criticism , it is a just a fact sachin has come up small on the biggest stages, the fact we had lost so many finals shows sachin has failed to deliver when it counts the most.
kabira Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 ^could you example big stage? may be define it for me
Sooda Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 filtered 1991-2009 39 1833 138 55.54 6 17 3/45 42.88 0 6 0 THATS AN AVERAGE OF 55 IN 39 FINALS MATCHES RUBBISH I SAY http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;final_type=1;orderby=default;template=results;type=allround
yoda Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 filtered 1991-2009 39 1833 138 55.54 6 17 3/45 42.88 0 6 0 THATS AN AVERAGE OF 55 IN 39 FINALS MATCHES RUBBISH I SAY http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;final_type=1;orderby=default;template=results;type=allround Look at his performance under Ganguly, which is when we lost most of our finals: *SC Ganguly 2000-2004 11 225 74 25.00 0 8 2/27 35.62 0 2 0 I bet it is similar for most of out players during that era. and then under Dhoni: *MS Dhoni 2008-2009 3 346 138 173.00 2 - - - - 0 0:omg: already surpassing total in 3 matches than in 11 when Ganguly was the captain.
HouMac Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 Ponting's mental toughness is 2nd to none. That's what gives him the edge over SRT, who's very tough himself, but Ponting's grittiness is on a different planet altogether.
Sooda Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 Maybe Ganguly just couldnt get the best outta Sachin the batsmanB-> M Azharuddin 1991-1998 18 980 134 65.33 4 8 3/45 50.62 *MS Dhoni 2008-2009 3 346 138 173.00 2 - - - - 0 0 *R Dravid 2003-2003 1 45 45 45.00 0 - - - - 0 0 *SC Ganguly 2000-2004 11 225 74 25.00 0 8 2/27 35.62 0 *SR Tendulkar 1996-1999 6 237 67 39.50 0 1 1/19 39.00 0
patriot Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 Ponting's mental toughness is 2nd to none. That's what gives him the edge over SRT' date=' who's very tough himself, but Ponting's grittiness is on a different planet altogether.[/quote'] What sets Ponting apart, according to me is - He hasn't changed his game - ditto Lara, ditto Viv. Ponting attacks in a calculated manner even when the chips are down and in the BIGGEST of games - just like he usually does. He also times his innings immaculately. SRT in BIG matches does well only when he is in a murderous mood - you can almost feel how SRT is going to perform in a BIG match seeing how he tackles his first few deliveries. The moment I see those tentative defensive pokes, beating the outside edge a few times in the 1st over- I know for sure he's going to get out soon. Ponting is PEERLESS and probably all time numero uno in playing pull shots of even good length deliveries. I happened to see a Pura Cup match NSW vs Tasmania a few years back - Ponting facing MCgrath - No other international batsman can even hold a candle to Ponting in the way in handled Mcgrath - ruthlessly pulling all his back of a length deliveries outside off to the boundary and even the stands. He made Mcgrath look like just another pacer.
Nova Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 The greatness of a modern day batsman depends on how he delivers in pressure situations. Ponting has succeeded more in this department than SRT. :hatsoff:
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