Guest Gunner Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Nice knowing you :haha: Sach, I think we need to keep this PAKI here and not b& him. He could be like the circus monkey providing awesome entertainment. :haha::haha: Link to comment
Sachinism Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Sach' date=' I think we need to keep this PAKI here and not b& him. He could be like the circus monkey providing awesome entertainment. :haha::haha:[/quote'] lol. Maybe we've finally found a proper replacement for @m!ts Link to comment
goose Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Only Sachin Tendulkar can equal Don Bradman John Woodcock believes that Bradman would have been proud to play the modern game as well as Tendulkar does, just as the Indian is in awe of him http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/cricket/article5365967.ece Although Tendulkar is shorter than Bradman was, he is more thick set, and the much heavier bat that he uses (a good half-pound heavier) gives greater weight to his strokes. Against that, the helmet that Tendulkar always wears and Bradman never did (though he said he might have done in the Bodyline series had one been available) must, to some extent, be an impediment. Link to comment
Sachinism Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 ^^ John Woodcock was the guy why made the comment after watching Sachin bat, "This guy is the greatest batsman ever and unlike the rest of you, I've seen Bradman play" (not exact, but along those lines) Link to comment
Guest Gunner Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Only Sachin Tendulkar can equal Don Bradman John Woodcock believes that Bradman would have been proud to play the modern game as well as Tendulkar does, just as the Indian is in awe of him http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/cricket/article5365967.ece Although Tendulkar is shorter than Bradman was, he is more thick set, and the much heavier bat that he uses (a good half-pound heavier) gives greater weight to his strokes. Against that, the helmet that Tendulkar always wears and Bradman never did (though he said he might have done in the Bodyline series had one been available) must, to some extent, be an impediment. Wonderful article, thanks a lot. Link to comment
99.94 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Not that Bradman didn't play have pressure on him though. Even thousands of people from the opposition's country flocked out to see him. The pressure of him scoring a heap of runs and keeping his average so high would have been apparent as well. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Not that Bradman didn't play have pressure on him though. Even thousands of people from the opposition's country flocked out to see him. The pressure of him scoring a heap of runs and keeping his average so high would have been apparent as well. First of all comparison is unfair for both players. Second of all premises on which Atherton belittles Tendulkar in comparison with Bradman is frankly laughable. Even a fan who doesn't like both Bradman and Tendulkar would feel it is an insult to their intelligence. You don't have to be a sachin fan to see this gigantically stupid analysis. Link to comment
zubinpepsi Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 times took off the article?? its showing page cudnt be found.. anyone has a link? Link to comment
Sachinism Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 times took off the article?? its showing page cudnt be found.. anyone has a link? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/mike_atherton/article6922218.ece Link to comment
triam Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 What Sachin Tendulkar has that Don Bradman didn’t - Atherton Err, Brown skin??:finger: Link to comment
Anakin Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Professional cricket, sir athers Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Suggesting Tendulkar greatest is demeaning to others: Atherton LONDON: Sachin Tendulkar is a great batsman but to suggest he is the best ever is demeaning to those former greats who survived the bodylineseries and stood at the crease without any modern-day safety gears, feels former England skipper Mike Atherton. "To suggest that Tendulkar -- or, indeed, any modern, armoured or, to use (Viv) Richards's phrase, "pampered" player -- is the best ever is demeaning to those former greats who stood at the crease in the knowledge that their next ball could be their last," Artherton wrote in 'The Times'. Atherton feels modern-day protections have made life easier for current batsmen compared to yesteryears and so it remains to be seen how Tendulkar's career would have shaped up if these gears were not available. "Images of Tendulkar have adorned newspapers and websites throughout the week. Images, mostly, of the 'Little Master' at the crease, compact and balanced. So compact and balanced, in fact, that Bradman said Tendulkar was the modern player whose method most closely resembled his own. "There was, though, one crucial difference, which the image of Tendulkar on these pages on Monday highlighted. Perched on top of Tendulkar's head ... was a bright blue helmet and a grille to protect his features. "Tendulkar was batting in a One-day game, but had the image been of him batting in whites, there is a good chance that, along with a helmet, Tendulkar would have been wearing an arm guard and a chest guard, too. He is always amply protected," he wrote. "Which is not to say that Tendulkar lacks bravery. Indeed, he proved his 'manhood' in his first Test series when Waqar Younis bloodied his nose and Tendulkar refused treatment and carried on batting," Atherton said. "He wore a grille from then on, though, so that when James Anderson sent a ball crashing into it at Trent Bridge in July 2007, Tendulkar was able to shake his head and carry on as if he had been hit with a wet sponge," he added. Atherton believes Tendulkar would be inconvenienced if he steps on the field without a helmet. "Tendulkar's method suggests that he would be little inconvenienced by not wearing a helmet. He does not hook, nor does he plunge on to the front foot. And he watches the ball like a hawk. "Nevertheless, would he have lasted as long, would he have scored as many runs, would that blow to his face by Anderson would not have affected his confidence in any way? We cannot know for sure. "Bradman's average plummeted in the Bodyline series, when the need for raw courage was added to the equation. A few modern players would suffer, too. "The ball is no softer now and the bowlers no less quick, but standing at the crease knowing that you can be killed demands a different level of courage from the realisation that you might just get hurt," he added http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/top-stories/Suggesting-Tendulkar-greatest-is-demeaning-to-others-Atherton-/articleshow/5246941.cms This getting more and more pathetic and irritating now.What is Atherton's problem?English players not being half as good as Tendulkar? Link to comment
lonestarranger Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Cut him some slack guys. Why flame the hell out of him? I mean, he does bring up a valid point. And whenever there's an article to be read, just read it from the viewpoint that it came from a 'writer' (Eventhough he may be a 'past' cricketer). Comments like 'Oh, he didn't achieve anything in his cricketing career, how dare he insult SRT?' shouldn't be tolerated at all IMO. The article must be assumed to have been penned by a 'critic'. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less. SRT fan myself, but am not just a blind 'bhakt'. I'm pissed seeing all the flame against Artherton purely based on the fact that he was an underachieveing cricketer. But I'd have to agree on one thing, the timing of this article sure was wrong. It just shouldn't have come at a time when SRT hit 20.. And coming to his point, what he's trying to say is far-fetched, I agree, but kind-of sounds logical. If, and that's a 'big' if, Bradman had a helmet, maybe the total game would've changed. Who knows? All things said, whatever SRT has achieved is no mean feat and I think even Artherton agrees with that (in the article). Just my $0.02.. Hope I don't get flamed for siding with Artherton :D Link to comment
Lord Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Cut him some slack guys. Why flame the hell out of him? I mean, he does bring up a valid point. And whenever there's an article to be read, just read it from the viewpoint that it came from a 'writer' (Eventhough he may be a 'past' cricketer). Comments like 'Oh, he didn't achieve anything in his cricketing career, how dare he insult SRT?' shouldn't be tolerated at all IMO. The article must be assumed to have been penned by a 'critic'. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less. SRT fan myself, but am not just a blind 'bhakt'. I'm pissed seeing all the flame against Artherton purely based on the fact that he was an underachieveing cricketer. But I'd have to agree on one thing, the timing of this article sure was wrong. It just shouldn't have come at a time when SRT hit 20.. And coming to his point, what he's trying to say is far-fetched, I agree, but kind-of sounds logical. If, and that's a 'big' if, Bradman had a helmet, maybe the total game would've changed. Who knows? All things said, whatever SRT has achieved is no mean feat and I think even Artherton agrees with that (in the article). Just my $0.02.. Hope I don't get flamed for siding with Artherton :D why do u think Atherton didnt name Ponting,Lara in the comparison?why only Sachin? Link to comment
Rajiv Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Man maneuvers all situations, coulda shoulda woulda? maybe he would have been better! too much space given to tea sipping nobody Link to comment
Chandan Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 anyone notice that...? Yep. Kapil for some reason always lambasted SRT and expects him to win all the games for India by himself :dontknow: Oh yes. This article is also there in "celebrating 20 glorious years of Tendulkar'. Sach Dan posted it. Link to comment
lonestarranger Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 why do u think Atherton didnt name Ponting' date='Lara in the comparison?why only Sachin?[/quote'] That again, might be his stupidity. Come to think of it, since SRT's 20 years of cricketing was comin' up, he'd have wanted to take advantage of it. Just that he might be an attention-*****. But let's take all players (from our era) into perspective & take players from Bradman's era. From that viewpoint if you see, his case might be valid. Link to comment
Lord Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 That again, might be his stupidity. Come to think of it, since SRT's 20 years of cricketing was comin' up, he'd have wanted to take advantage of it. Just that he might be an attention-*****. But let's take all players (from our era) into perspective & take players from Bradman's era. From that viewpoint if you see, his case might be valid. not really,Bradman was a great in his era n Tendulkar is in his.Its stupid to compare across eras Link to comment
99.94 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 It's hard enough to compare batmen of the same era (e.g. Lara, Tendulkar and co), so trying to compare these two is even more stupid. Both are/were absolute legends, but I think no matter what Bradman will always be regarded as the greatest player to pick up a bat. Link to comment
Anakin Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 It's hard enough to compare batmen of the same era (e.g. Lara' date=' Tendulkar and co), so trying to compare these two is even more stupid. Both are/were absolute legends, but I think no matter what Bradman will always be regarded as the greatest player to pick up a bat.[/quote'] Not really. Link to comment
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