Is Jayawardene really amongst the great?

[Malcolm Merlyn]

please ' date=' anyone but yosuf ..the guy just scores meaningless runs on flat tracks ..ever remember him making a useful contribution in paks wins ?[/quote'] they dont have any better ones to bring out....so they will bring the best they got.........wait before they come out and make all centuries scored by RD and SRT as meaningless and then prove it is nt MO YO fault that BD and ZIm and WI and NZ had no great attack.....most of theri so called great batsman are FTBs.....check Another so called great from pakistan...zaheer abbas's record....

[King]

i disagree......Sanga is the best SL batsman......he already has a better Away record then jayawardene...... He is already 32 or 33........unless he scores againist the aussies or saffies,though i would like to point out that they are no more the bowling attacks they were when lara tendulkar played them....still i doubt mahela will not be able to fix it.....he may score 10000 runs but he will never be in league of the greats like sachin,lara,kallis,dravid or ponting hayden gilchrist etc.......

Majority of the batsmen mature after 30. They will have nailed the mental ascpect by then, will be far more mature in stroke play and will know their game well enough. Some of the best batsmen have had good times post 30. I'd like to think Mahela's best hasn't come yet.

[DeXteR]

Jaya and Sanga are best batsman i have seen playing for SL till now(no idea of oldies). if Jaya is to be called great we need a new category for players like SRT,Ricky,Lara. i would even rate RD, Kallis, ahead of him. Not sure about Jaya that he may achieve that status of Lara or SRT, or even Kallis or RD

[jusarrived]

Jaya and Sanga are best batsman i have seen playing for SL till now(no idea of oldies). if Jaya is to be called great we need a new category for players like SRT,Ricky,Lara. i would even rate RD, Kallis, ahead of him. Not sure about Jaya that he may achieve that status of Lara or SRT, or even Kallis or RD

you havent seen Arvinda D'silva bat ? easily the best SL player , forget stats ..Jaya and Sanga are not half the player D'silva was

[jusarrived]

they dont have any better ones to bring out....so they will bring the best they got.........wait before they come out and make all centuries scored by RD and SRT as meaningless and then prove it is nt MO YO fault that BD and ZIm and WI and NZ had no great attack.....most of theri so called great batsman are FTBs.....check Another so called great from pakistan...zaheer abbas's record....

only decent bat i have seen from Pak was Inzy , very fine player . Miandad was pretty good , but calling the likes of MoYo gr8s is a joke .

[Malcolm Merlyn]

only decent bat i have seen from Pak was Inzy ' date=' very fine player . Miandad was pretty good , but calling the likes of MoYo gr8s is a joke .[/quote'] i agree with u onn miandad and inzy........their main thrust was on fast bowling...they didnt have great spinners also...except may be saqlain

[Sachinism]

i agree with u onn miandad and inzy........their main thrust was on fast bowling...they didnt have great spinners also...except may be saqlain

Qadir?

[jusarrived]

i agree with u onn miandad and inzy........their main thrust was on fast bowling...they didnt have great spinners also...except may be saqlain

I never rated Saqlain as a Test bowler , but he was darn good ODI bowler ....Mustaq Ahmed was a potential gr8 , think had he played longer he would have been up there with Warne & Kumble

[DeXteR]

you havent seen Arvinda D'silva bat ? easily the best SL player ' date=' forget stats ..Jaya and Sanga are not half the player D'silva was[/quote'] nope..not seen Arvinda's batting much.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

I never rated Saqlain as a Test bowler ' date=' but he was darn good ODI bowler ....Mustaq Ahmed was a potential gr8 , think had he played longer he would have been up there with Warne & Kumble[/quote'] mushtaq didnt turn it big nor was he accurate enough his main thrust was variation....his googly was lethal saqlain almost avgs 5 wickets per test.....troubled indians as well.......i rate him as a good test bowler

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Qadir?

236 wickets at 32...........avgd above 30 againist most teams except England.avgd 51 againist india He was one of those players who became great after retirement.like zaheer abbas....overrated by english men here have a look http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/38973.html?class=1;template=results;type=allround

[Malcolm Merlyn]

nope..not seen Arvinda's batting much.

he was genius......far better then any lankan batsman i have seen.......

[The Outsider]

236 wickets at 32...........avgd above 30 againist most teams except England.avgd 51 againist india He was one of those players who became great after retirement.like zaheer abbas....overrated by english men here have a look http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/38973.html?class=1;template=results;type=allround

Qadir was the single biggest reason that Pakistan were the only side during the 80s to give WI a run for their money - he was easily the best wrist and perhaps the best spinner in the world during that time. He might not have been a patch on the likes of Warne, Murali, and Kumble but was certainly in the Saqlain, Harbhajan kind of league.

[nballa]

nope, he does not have 'that' special innings which stands out. yes he scores centuries but by that time 7 others will also have scored centuries. really hasn't come in a 'save' situation and went all the way. he needs the cushion of a top order performance. an insignificant player really. just good to watch, pleasing on the eye and the last of the 'touch' players after laxman.

[ludhianvi]

Mahela is 9th in all time runs

Most runs in career
Player                	 Span 	         Mat 	Inns 	NO      Runs   	HS 	  Ave 	  100 	  50 	  0
SR Tendulkar (India) 	1989-2009 	161* 	264 	29 	12897 	248* 	54.88 	43 	53 	14
BC Lara (ICC/WI) 	1990-2006 	131 	232 	6 	11953 	400* 	52.88 	34 	48 	17
RT Ponting (Aus) 	1995-2009 	136 	229 	26 	11345 	257 	55.88 	38 	48 	11
AR Border (Aus) 	1978-1994 	156 	265 	44 	11174 	205 	50.56 	27 	63 	11
R Dravid (ICC/India) 	1996-2009 	136* 	236 	28 	11123 	270 	53.47 	27 	58 	8
SR Waugh (Aus)         	1985-2004 	168 	260 	46 	10927 	200 	51.06 	32 	50 	22
JH Kallis (ICC/SA) 	1995-2009 	131 	221 	33 	10277 	189* 	54.66 	31 	51 	10
SM Gavaskar (India) 	1971-1987 	125 	214 	16 	10122 	236* 	51.12 	34 	45 	12
[highlight]DPMD Jayawardene (SL) 	1997-2009 	109* 	178 	13 	9022 	374 	54.67 	27 	35 	11[/highlight]
GA Gooch (Eng)  	1975-1995 	118 	215 	6 	8900 	333 	42.58 	20 	46 	13
Javed Miandad (Pak) 	1976-1993 	124 	189 	21 	8832 	280* 	52.57 	23 	43 	6
Inzi (ICC/Pak)         1992-2007 	120 	200 	22 	8830 	329 	49.60 	25 	46 	15
ML Hayden (Aus) 	1994-2009 	103 	184 	14 	8625 	380 	50.73 	30 	29 	14
S Chanderpaul (WI) 	1994-2009 	121 	206 	32 	8576 	203* 	49.28 	21 	52 	13
IVA Richards (WI) 	1974-1991 	121 	182 	12 	8540 	291 	50.23 	24 	45 	10

[coffee_rules]

^ it will be 28 for Dravid today.

[Anakin]

To the OP, no he is not great. In fact, De Silva was a much better batsman than he is. This goes to show the decline in bowling quality and pitches in recent times.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Qadir was the single biggest reason that Pakistan were the only side during the 80s to give WI a run for their money - he was easily the best wrist and perhaps the best spinner in the world during that time. He might not have been a patch on the likes of Warne' date=' Murali, and Kumble but was certainly in the Saqlain, Harbhajan kind of league.[/quote'] from the articles i have read...windies had problems with the reverse swing of the pakistanis....pakistna had good pace attack then......qadir was good....but not as good as saqlain or bhajji may be more in mushtaq ahmed type league.........tooo much has been made of his 6 for 16 againist the windies in 1986 at faisla bad......much of his heroics againist the windies was in pakistan......in west indies he avgs a good 40.........

[Gambit]

Aravinda is quite easily the best Sri Lankan bat of all time. Mahila isn't even close to Sanga, forget Aravinda.

[The Outsider]

from the articles i have read...windies had problems with the reverse swing of the pakistanis....pakistna had good pace attack then......qadir was good....but not as good as saqlain or bhajji may be more in mushtaq ahmed type league.........tooo much has been made of his 6 for 16 againist the windies in 1986 at faisla bad......much of his heroics againist the windies was in pakistan......in west indies he avgs a good 40.........

Reverse swing was a factor in the '90 series, not in the '86 and '88 ones. Why is too much made of a 6/16 against the best side in the world by a distance? It deserves the praise. Do you think you will say "too much is made out of" Harbhajan's performance in the '01 series? Besides the Faisalabad win, he played crucial parts in the draws of both the '86 and '88 series. You need to look at it from the perspective of the WI side and resources around the world. There were great fast bowlers and great batsmen to challenge WI - the one thing lacking in any team was an attacking wrist spinner. It was that unknown factor which troubled the WI and resulted in 2 consecutive drawn series. During those times, he brought to the table the unknown element into the attack. There were the Aussies and England who also had good pace attacks but used to get regular wallopings from the WI.