Is Jayawardene really amongst the great?

[kabira]

Sunny recently mentioned why has he been ignored. Can he be considered one of the greatest of the game? or even greatest from Lanka?? His record in other countries

in Australia 2004-2007 4 274 104 34.25 1 - - - - 3 0 view innings in Bangladesh 2006-2009 4 304 166 50.66 1 - - - - 6 0 view innings in England 1998-2006 7 511 119 42.58 2 0 - - 0 11 0 view innings in India 2005-2009 4 530 275 88.33 1 - - - - 1 0 view innings in New Zealand 2005-2006 4 194 141 27.71 1 0 - - 0 4 0 view innings in Pakistan 1999-2009 9 684 240 42.75 1 2 1/7 24.00 0 15 0 view innings in South Africa 2000-2002 5 314 98 31.40 0 0 - - 0 2 0 view innings in Sri Lanka 1997-2009 61 5663 374 65.09 18 4 2/32 41.75 0 92 0 view innings in West Indies 2003-2008 4 294 136 42.00 1 - - - - 3 0 view innings in Zimbabwe 1999-2004 5 253 100* 63.25

His record seem to be skewed by great home record

[kabira]

he has played only 46 tests outside Lanka avg. 44 Home avg is 65. Difference of 21, thats quite a lot about 32%

[vvvslaxman]

When the ball doesn't make any deviation he is great. Once it starts to move around he would start playing with his edge of the bat. On a dead flat tracks he is definitely great because he can pile up runs like Lara singlemindedly.

[kabira]

^so can he be modern day great??

[King Tendulkar]

Yes he is great. No doubts. People have to grow up and accept it

[Sachinism]

44 average outside home isn't bad at all. But as you've highlighted, he only has a decent average against England on good pitches with assistance for bowlers. Fail in Aus, NZ & SA

[Laaloo]

Those averages are a little too low in the current generation TBH

[Sooda]

He's a great in the way that Mohammed Yousuf is a great.

[vvvslaxman]

He's a great in the way that Mohammed Yousuf is a great.

Ya you are right. Sangakkara is a better all-season batsman than him.

[King Tendulkar]

44 average outside home isn't bad at all. But as you've highlighted, he only has a decent average against England on good pitches with assistance for bowlers. Fail in Aus, NZ & SA

Ponting also has a mediocre average in England and a appaling record in India. Is he amongst the greats?:punter:

[King Tendulkar]

Mo Yos greatness could well be defined by how he does in upcoming aus tour, although admittedly it is against a weaker aus attack then in the past. The fact he has a weak record in oz,sa and sl counts against him. He could be labelled a FTB

[Sachinism]

Ponting also has a mediocre average in England and a appaling record in India. Is he amongst the greats?:punter:

He's a very very good player, not great :P

[champ]

Ponting also has a mediocre average in England and a appaling record in India. Is he amongst the greats?:punter:

i think his avg will be in higher 40's .. thats not bad ??

[King Tendulkar]

i think his avg will be in higher 40's .. thats not bad ??

Only 44 in england and 21 in India. Suggests he cant play swing/seam or spin!

[Anakin]

BCL averages <50 in away

[King Tendulkar]

Well the conlusion I have come to after processing all the data is that Sachin is the best:--D

[DeXteR]

Not great but ...certainly a very good batsman. He has to improve his record abroad-aus nz and sa.

[coffee_rules]

He belongs to the second tier of current greats - Tier1 - Ponting, Lara, SRT Tier2 - Dravid, Kallis, Jayawerdene, Moyo, Pete Tier3 - Chanders, yewness, etc.

[King Tendulkar]

He belongs to the second tier of current greats - Tier1 - Ponting, Lara, SRT Tier2 - Dravid, Kallis, Jayawerdene, Moyo, Pete Tier3 - Chanders, yewness, etc.

Tier super 1 - Sachin Tier 1 - Ponting, Lara

[Ram]

You don’t score 9000+ test runs by merely being just ‘very good’. That is quite an elite club that he is now a part of. Whether Jayawardene is a great player already, is certainly up for discussion. But one thing’s for sure, he’s certainly knocking on the doors of greatness with brute force. If we’re really intent on it, we can puncture many statistical holes on the career balloon of most batsmen, applying filters that never existed before. Not surprisingly, it takes quite a while for a batsmen to graduate from the ‘Good’ club to the ‘Great’ club. That tag does not come that easily. Guys like Ponting, Dravid had to deliver for 4 even 5 seasons in a row to rise up into the rarified club. Seeing that, If J’dene wants to join them in that elite space, he probably has to keep up this level of performance for probably one season more (AND) put in some worthwhile performances in countries where his record seems most weak. If that happens, its probably inevitable, given the sheer mountain of runs he has been scoring, that he will considered ‘great’.