vvvslaxman Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I don't understand this business of Pakistan produces talents...: Going by their definition of talent even i am talented :hysterical: Link to comment
ucilite Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I know the score reads 9-0 in Australia's favor and we the fans have to live with that, but this team played much better cricket than that and any neutral fan would agreed to that. However, no one can deny that this team has some real issues! To begin with, Yousuf should never have never been appointed the captain. From the Woolmer days it was common knowledge that this guy was no captaincy material. After their debacle in Sydney this team lost all its mojo. Unlike many international teams, Pakistanis could never come out of the shell and for them the tour was over!!! Secondly, Inti and has to GO as he is useless. This team is much better off having no coach than to have him as its coach. Last but not least, Permanently Confused Board. As long as it will remain under the government, we cannot expect to see any improvement. When the patron of the board is a thief like Zardari what better could you expect? Its wishful thinking at my part, but Pakiis should hand over the test captaincy to Younis for Test and for ODIS and T20s unfortunately Beast is the only option. If it was up to me, I would strip Afridi of his chance to make an example out of this moran....but we all know that PCB doesn't have the balls to make a decision like that. Link to comment
Sooda Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Yeah if theyd held a few catches it would have been 2-1 at least in the tests. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Overconfidence in some players. Each captain, or senior having an attitude that he wants to perform better then his other team mate. The team had and still has some selfish dudes playing. Link to comment
Karan114 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Yeah if theyd held a few catches it would have been 2-1 at least in the tests. If their openers had batted better they might have won a game. If their fast bowlers had taken more wickets they might have won a game. If their middle-order had scored more runs they might have won a game. If their spinners had taken more wickets they might have won a game. And that pretty much applies to every team that loses in cricket. So how pointless is saying "if theyd held a few catches it would have been..."? Bad fielding, like bad batting and bad bowling, is just a weakness/failing on part of the side. Link to comment
king2be98 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I'm afraid when we look back my friend, history will show the 3-0 Test series drubbing, Pakistan did compete in those matches, but nobody will remember the whole match, but everyone will remember the result. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Yeah if theyd held a few catches it would have been 2-1 at least in the tests. I really cannot understand this logic behind "If catches had been taken" for a team like Pakistan. Fine it's a valid excuse if someone like Ponting or Dravid or Boucher drops a catch, because normally they won't. How can it be used as an excuse for the likes of Farhat, Butt, and Akmal? It's not a matter of bad luck that they were not able to catch the ball as it would be for Ponting, it's a matter of clearly and consistently sucking in one aspect of cricket everywhere, everyday without failure. To attribute ifs and buts to such a happening doesn't make sense. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I know the score reads 9-0 in Australia's favor and we the fans have to live with that, but this team played much better cricket than that and any neutral fan would agreed to that. However, no one can deny that this team has some real issues! To begin with, Yousuf should never have never been appointed the captain. From the Woolmer days it was common knowledge that this guy was no captaincy material. After their debacle in Sydney this team lost all its mojo. Unlike many international teams, Pakistanis could never come out of the shell and for them the tour was over!!! Secondly, Inti and has to GO as he is useless. This team is much better off having no coach than to have him as its coach. Last but not least, Permanently Confused Board. As long as it will remain under the government, we cannot expect to see any improvement. When the patron of the board is a thief like Zardari what better could you expect? Its wishful thinking at my part, but Pakiis should hand over the test captaincy to Younis for Test and for ODIS and T20s unfortunately Beast is the only option. If it was up to me, I would strip Afridi of his chance to make an example out of this moran....but we all know that PCB doesn't have the balls to make a decision like that. Three stnadard blame games. 1) Captain 2) Coach 3) Cricket board They probably contributed towards 25% of it. 75% comes from the player themselves. They are simply not good enough against Aussies. That is the real truth. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I'm afraid when we look back my friend' date=' history will show the 3-0 Test series drubbing, [b']Pakistan did compete in those matches, but nobody will remember the whole match, but everyone will remember the result. Much like Bangladesh competes with opposition in few sessions. Link to comment
ucilite Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Three stnadard blame games. 1) Captain 2) Coach 3) Cricket board They probably contributed towards 25% of it. 75% comes from the player themselves. They are simply not good enough against Aussies. That is the real truth. ok genius. seems like you have it all figured out then :hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment
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Texy Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 what happened to the pak team? seriously.... I used to at least admire them somewhat along with hating them...but this new team seriously lacks respect Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 ok genius. seems like you have it all figured out then :hysterical::hysterical: Yea it is genius to say management will fix your batting line up against pace bowling. They have been losing 12 tests in a row against Aussies over a decade. So many management, so many coach, so many captains have changed. Your team is still losing Link to comment
Ram Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 They're suffering from a debilitating case of lack of self-belief that is spreading like cancer. It first started out with the mediocre players in the team (Farhat, Iqbal, Sami, Misbah etc) and has now spread to the rest of the guys. One look at their team and the talent is obvious, but when you see guys like Yousuf, Younis, Akmal etc struggle to just put bat to ball or hang on to the dolliest of catches, you know that the team has completely lost faith in its ability to win cricket matches. And the proof of that is their knack of losing matches that they should have easily won (Test match at Sydney, today's T20). The team as such has no plan, no strategy, no well defined roles, no expectations. They're just getting on the field hoping for the best. That sort of attitude wont cut in international cricket. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 You could say Australia is the most professional team in the world. Pakistan is the least professional team in the world. When these two teams meet we all know what to expect regardless of management, captain, coach, trainer. Link to comment
patriot Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 :haha::haha::haha:. Whats the harm in recyling taLUNT ? Link to comment
pakkfann1287 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 lol recycling picture! Link to comment
azanian Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 The Pakistanis are always taliking about talented cricketers in their millions on the streets of Pakistan but I have yet to see one on the cricket field. How many Pakistani batsmen will make it in the Zimbabwe side? The truth is none. Link to comment
achilles Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 EGO - screws their team up. It rampant during Imran's time and its common even today. Link to comment
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