Sooda Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Good against pace and the moving ball- proved that on away tours opening for India in test cricket, once he settles his 'unorthodoxy' with the bat will be useful. Is probably livelier in the field. Itd be giving MV a very short stick indeed, but not sure how he is feeling after a not so great tourno thus far- Bit more of a long format cricketer? In a do or die game perhaps a punt is worthwhile Discuss.
achilles Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Sure. But MS doesn't agree with us. He may be wrong but he has his reasons. And Karthik is also a better batsman than Vijay in this form of the game.
Sooda Posted May 9, 2010 Author Posted May 9, 2010 ^Ya... more big match experience as well which will be useful today.
achilles Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Yes. Also, Karthik is a very feisty character and you need someone like him to take the attack back to the intimidative Windies.
gult Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Karthik is must for this game. He has performed really well when ever he was given a chance. His fielding is also excellent. He can come in place of Yusuf who is a pure garbage.
Zap_Brannigan Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Karthink has failed on lots of occasions given before. Vijay has had just 3 and has a 48 in one of them...Trust him!!
Lord Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Karthink has failed on lots of occasions given before. Vijay has had just 3 and has a 48 in one of them...Trust him!! against Afghanis at St . Lucia?totally different proposition.Karthik has got a good backfoot game,pulls well.plus has more attackin shots.all Vijay does is hoick it over midon or midwicket
Ranjha Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 This vijay dude sucks big time. Karthik is a must..better fielder and batsman.
Andy Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 against Afghanis at St . Lucia?totally different proposition.Karthik has got a good backfoot game' date='pulls well.plus has more attackin shots.all Vijay does is hoick it over midon or midwicket[/quote'] Yes Karthik > Vijay in 20-20. I hope he proves us wrong today unlike Pathan.
Sooda Posted May 9, 2010 Author Posted May 9, 2010 He dosent 'suck big time' and I partly agree with Zap..is a bit unfair on MV after just three matches, two of them agst world class attacks... but it has come to that, we need to make a bigish call that may well decide whther we win or lose...
Karan114 Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 but it has come to that' date=' we need to make a bigish call that may well decide whther we win or lose...[/quote'] So bringing in a guy who averages 17 in T20I cricket and strike rate 117 is going to be the call that will change our fortunes? Our problems are far deeper, with no top class bowlers and a batting line-up intimidated by short pitched bowling. Vijay has failed but replacing him with another weak player (don't get me wrong, I like Karthik and was impressed by his Test batting in 2007 as well but in T20 he is not that great) is going to make no difference if Gautam, Raina, Yuvi etc. get bullied by Roach and Taylor.
saneindian Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Why not send Yusuf Pathan as an opener? He cliks , we get the foundation for an imposing total. If he fails, well that doesnt change much cos we are in anyways not getting much from Vijay or GG.
jhakati Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Good against pace and the moving ball- proved that on away tours opening for India in test cricket, once he settles his 'unorthodoxy' with the bat will be useful. Is probably livelier in the field. Itd be giving MV a very short stick indeed, but not sure how he is feeling after a not so great tourno thus far- Bit more of a long format cricketer? In a do or die game perhaps a punt is worthwhile Discuss. umm no vijay is many leagues above karthik as a batsman
gaurav92 Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Murali Vijay and Karthik are two good pullers of the cricket balls.Doesn't matter much who opens, but what matters most is that the open well.
Sooda Posted May 9, 2010 Author Posted May 9, 2010 So bringing in a guy who averages 17 in T20I cricket and strike rate 117 is going to be the call that will change our fortunes? Our problems are far deeper' date=' with no top class bowlers and a batting line-up intimidated by short pitched bowling. Vijay has failed but replacing him with another weak player (don't get me wrong, I like Karthik and was impressed by his Test batting in 2007 as well but in T20 he is not that great) is going to make no difference if Gautam, Raina, Yuvi etc. get bullied by Roach and Taylor.[/quote'] Yeah, the problems are far deeper. Our bowling not being so great being one of them. But in the very short term- i.e today- Kartik for Vijay I think could be a call that will change our fortunes. Im only saying based on those test performances-which may not be a good way to judge it being a different format- he is a better option vs the short ball and should play... not to mention him being more experienced at this level. Its not easy to judge based on Average- Raina and Sehwag only average 20's in T20- and his SR isnt outstanding, but we know he can bat
diegovegaz Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 i'd stick to vijay opening i'll have kaarthick replacing yusuf in the team, and coming lower down the order we need a finisher
vvvslaxman Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Jinxathon for KKD today :cantstop: . Guys drop Oosup Pathan and pick both. KKD is a great later order finisher too.
The Dark Horse Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Jinxathon for KKD today :cantstop: . Guys drop Oosup Pathan and pick both. KKD is a great later order finisher too. ++ Whoever opens should grab the opportunity:pray:
veer Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 so if karthik fails.. another thread gonna start up with either vijay opening or rohit opening?? point is if you have someone with talent, you gotta have patience with him.. and not just randomly go with the next guy on couple of failures..
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