rkt.india Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 :haha: :rotfl: irfan pathan was never a cricketer of the year...correct urself Irfan Pathan was also cricketer of the year few years ago(in 2004-05 i guess?). So whats your point? :hmmm: IP was never a cricket of the year...
CommonMan Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 irfan pathan was never a cricketer of the year...correct urself he was emerging player of the year.. :winky:
rkt.india Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 he was emerging player of the year.. :winky: there is a lot of difference in emerging player and cricketer of the year...Ian bell and Ajanta mendis also won emerging player, now wt they are?
jusarrived Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 Overhyped bowler. agreed , infact a crap bowler imo . I have rarely seen him get a wicket of a good ball .
gaurav92 Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 agreed ' date=' infact a crap bowler imo . I have rarely seen him get a wicket of a good ball .[/quote'] Now are u serious.Hes a very good bowler, slingy action, good and effective release point.He in the past 3 years have taken most number of wickets for Aussies in Tests, so you can't call him a crap bowler. And you say u haven't seen him take wicket of a good ball, He uses some variation in pace and also bowls in with the angle that troubles most right hand batsman.He has troubled Sehwag more than even Brett Lee with the angle at which he bowls.
jusarrived Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 Now are u serious.Hes a very good bowler, slingy action, good and effective release point.He in the past 3 years have taken most number of wickets for Aussies in Tests, so you can't call him a crap bowler. And you say u haven't seen him take wicket of a good ball, He uses some variation in pace and also bowls in with the angle that troubles most right hand batsman.He has troubled Sehwag more than even Brett Lee with the angle at which he bowls. MJ is a very defensive bowler & like you said gets his wickets only cos of the angle he bowls ...I have seen his spells where he got wickets for Aus , which was mostly rubbish & lucky wickets in between . Shewag tends to get frustrated against such bowlers & not surprising hes given his wicket to MJ a few times . Not many ozs rate him either .
gaurav92 Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 ^Well in the kind of cricket arena with the flat decks and quick outfields, if a batsman gets a think edge for 4, it is the worst moment for a bowler, and this bowler produces wickets and is not given wickets in the end.He has bowled tightly in the middle overs and in tests has used the angle to make the batsman play as much as possible so in my view he is a great bowler.We may agree to disagree on that though since we are differing in opinion and neither of us will be able to convince the other :nice: I respect your opinion and u respect mine and lets end this discussion here itself before it gets heated up. Agree ?
jusarrived Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 Agreed , only on the last line though . :D btw I think we would do well against Pak ,
gaurav92 Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 Agreed , only on the last line though . :D Yes Of Course :cantstop: btw I think we would do well against Pak , :hmmm:
jusarrived Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 typo , meant 'he' would do well . Pak batsmen have a tendency to poke outside the off stump , more than others .
Bradman99 Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 agreed ' date=' infact a crap bowler imo . I have rarely seen him get a wicket of a good ball .[/quote'] Wtf do you watch man, he is the x-factor pretty much in the side. A lot of the wickets he gets, are off good balls. Never seen him get a wicket off a good ball? How about the one against Smith?
Lord Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 hes the fittest pacer going around along with Steyn.thats reason enuf to respect him
Clarke Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 He is a very good cricketer but TBH Harris is no less a bowler. Its good for Australia to have Hilfy, Dougie, Johnson & Harris as frontline bowlers with 3 of them playing in any particular game.
gaurav92 Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 ^Nannes and Siddle are good too.The reason i don't include Tait is because of his inability to bowl more than 4-5 overs in a spell.
Bradman99 Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 ^Nannes and Siddle are good too.The reason i don't include Tait is because of his inability to bowl more than 4-5 overs in a spell. Lets be honest, Tait is not a test bowler at all is he.. He's a 20/20 bowler and one day bowler, although even in one dayers it is possibly too much for him. By playing him in test matches, it would ruin the rest of his career.
Feed Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 Aussies name debutants Paine and Smith for Lords test Wicketkeeper Tim Paine and spinner Steve Smith will both make their Test debuts at Lord's against Pakistan. More... Aussies name debutants 13/07/2010 PA Sport Wicketkeeper Tim Paine and spinner Steve Smith will both make their Test debuts at Lord's against Pakistan. Australia captain Ricky Ponting confirmed on Monday that he would stick by the same team that played in the drawn two-day game against Derbyshire last week. Ponting confirmed Michael Clarke will continue batting at four - with Mike Hussey coming in at five - right the way through to the Ashes series against England later this year. Clarke has batted at four just seven times in his 60-Test career and averages only 16.67 in the position, compared to 56 when he comes in at five. But Ponting said: "I think his game's very well suited higher up the order against the newer ball, more than Hussey's is at the moment." "He has been our most consistent player and that is in all conditions around the world." "He has developed his game over the last couple of years and when guys are playing that well they need to be batting as soon as possible." "That is why he has moved up a spot and that is the way it will be, not only for this series but right through the Ashes as well." Australia was beaten by England at Lord's last year in the second Test of the 2009 Ashes series. Ponting believes it returns to the home of cricket stronger for it and he hopes that experience rubs off on Paine and Smith in particular. "The guys that have been here and done it before will hopefully be better for the experience of last time," he said. "We will be talking to the young guys about the enormity of the game. There is already enough pressure on them to be worrying about where they are playing and who they are playing in front of." "Playing your first Test is always a special occasion. It is something I have never forgotten 140-odd Test matches later." Pakistan warmed up for the Tests with two Twenty20 wins over Australia. Pakistan has lost 12 consecutive Test matches to Australia, dating back to 1999, but new captain Shahid Afridi believes there has never been a better time to beat the world Test champion. "Winning in any form of the game keeps morale high. We are confident," he said. "They don't have the same players like (Shane) Warne, (Glenn) McGrath and (Matthew) Hayden. It is a totally different team. This is a time you can take these guys." Afridi insisted Pakistan had solved its disciplinary problems and heads into Tuesday's first Test as a united force confident of victory. The 30-year-old Afridi came out of a four-year Test retirement to pick up the pieces after Pakistan's dismal tour of Australia earlier this year ended in bitter recriminations. The two previous captains, Mohammed Yousuf and Younus Khan, were both banned indefinitely for alleged infighting as part of widespread punishments dished out by the Pakistan Cricket Board following the 3-0 Test series whitewash, plus defeats in all six limited-overs internationals. The PCB later overturned the suspensions handed down to Shoaib Malik and to Younus, who was not selected for the tour of England, while Yousuf retired in protest. Afridi was a controversial replacement as captain, given he has not played Test cricket since 2006 and he received a two-match ICC ban for biting the ball during the one-day international in Perth. But Afridi believes he has ironed out the unrest and he is confident nothing will derail Pakistan as it enters back-to-back Test series against Australia and England. "The guys are united," Afridi said. "I am trying to keep the guys as close as I can. I take them for dinner and the communication problem is not there now." "We sit together and chat to each other. If they have any problems they can come to me and the coach and share them." "It is a difficult job, especially with the different cultures, and the different cities but I respect these guys and whatever their problems are I listen and talk to the management." "They are feeling good playing with my captaincy. I am trying to be a good man-manager."
Feed Posted July 14, 2010 Posted July 14, 2010 Katich to the rescue as Pakistan take charge Pakistan took the honours on a hard-fought opening day in the first Test match against Australia at Lord's, played in typical English conditions. More... Katich to the rescue as Pakistan take charge July 14 2010 London: Pakistan took the honours on a hard-fought opening day in the first Test match against Australia at Lord's yesterday played in typical English conditions. Under an overcast sky offering plenty of assistance to the pace bowlers, Australia struggled to 229/9 in the first Test between two overseas teams on English soil since the 1912 Triangular series. The Australians appeared to have weathered the early storm, reaching 171/2 after being asked to bat by Shahid Afridi following the loss of 90 minutes' play because of overnight rain. Shane Watson (4) and captain Ricky Ponting (26) had been dismissed either side of the lunch interval by left-arm paceman Mohammad Aamer, with Ponting moving past Brian Lara to take second place behind Sachin Tendulkar on the all-time Test run-scoring list. Simon Katich and Michael Clarke then added 120 at better than a run a minute before Mohammad Asif, bending the ball late with his pronounced wrist action off a full length, dismissed Clarke lbw for 47 with the final delivery before tea. Asif accounted for the obdurate Katich (80) caught behind with his third ball after the break, and bowled Marcus North for a third-ball duck to give him three wickets in seven deliveries. Wicketkeeper Tim Paine (7) and Steven Smith (1) made inauspicious Test debuts with the bat, the former caught behind off Umar Gul and the latter falling lbw to fellow leg-spinner Danish Kaneria. Kaneria beat Mitchell Johnson comprehensively with a googly and bowled the left-hander next ball for three. The players left the field for bad light with Michael Hussey unbeaten on 39. Katich could make little of the conditions or the bowling in the morning session. He was almost bowled off his pads by Aamer and survived a ferocious lbw appeal from a delivery which may have brushed his bat. The compact left-hander looked increasingly at ease after the interval, squeezing the ball through the field with his restricted bat lift ,while Clarke unfurled some delightful drives. Katich's 23rd Test half-century was his ninth since the fourth Ashes Test at Headingley last year. - Reuters
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