Deleted_User_1 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Anyone who says Gangs was ordinary sucks donkey's balls :finger: Link to comment
ludhianvi Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Should rahul dravid retire now??? - How about you all retire from posting bull crap about Rahul Dravid. A legend of cricket who has won plenty of games for India. For god sake, the guy has almost scored 12k runs in test cricket plus has scored almost 11k runs in ODIS and has saved India's @ss plenty of times in both the formats. and still continues to score at decent rate. The guy knows when to retire. You guys just shouldn't talk crap about him. Shut UP ALREADY.. RAHUL DRAVD - IN BOLD FRIGGIN LETERS.. Just to add to that, I recall watching a tv show called Cricket Controversies on NDTV a few years back and Navjot Sidhu had said something along the following lines about Dravid. It was in Hindi so may be lost in translation. Dravid is one person who will walk over broken glass for Team India :hatsoff: Link to comment
Shane Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Just to add to that' date=' I recall watching a tv show called [i']Cricket Controversies on NDTV a few years back and Navjot Sidhu had said something along the following lines about Dravid. It was in Hindi so may be lost in translation. Dravid is one person who will walk over broken glass for Team India :hatsoff: Excellent point Ludhi, If there ever has been a selfless cricketer to have donned the India Jersey its Rahul Dravid. Legend. :hatsoff: Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Excellent point Ludhi' date=' If there ever has been a selfless cricketer to have donned the India Jersey its Rahul Dravid. Legend. :hatsoff:[/quote'] Agree, wonder how people even think of degrading him. Link to comment
yoda Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Guys ignore Manny_Pacquiao's posts in this thread. It is quite obvious now (wasn't to me earlier ofc) that he is posting just for the sake of needling posters. Good job btw. :winky: Link to comment
don_corleone840 Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 I know that i started this thread but calling dravid cancer and money seeker is just a disrespect to one of the greatest batsman of all time. Link to comment
spectre Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 More than that, he has fallen at Pujara's feet for some reason, and thinking that once Dravid goes, pujara will take his slot...hehe Who knows, he could be his lost cousin :giggle: Guys ignore Manny_Pacquiao's posts in this thread. It is quite obvious now (wasn't to me earlier ofc) that he is posting just for the sake of needling posters. Good job btw. :winky: Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Should rahul dravid retire now??? - How about you all retire from posting bull crap about Rahul Dravid. A legend of cricket who has won plenty of games for India. For god sake, the guy has almost scored 12k runs in test cricket plus has scored almost 11k runs in ODIS and has saved India's @ss plenty of times in both the formats. and still continues to score at decent rate. The guy knows when to retire. You guys just shouldn't talk crap about him. Shut UP ALREADY.. RAHUL DRAVD - IN BOLD FRIGGIN LETERS.. Bang on. The conspiracy theories about him in this thread are pathetic. Criticise his form if you want but barbs of selfish, greedy blah blah are sick! Stop acting like pakis. He goes on to the field, always has given 110% for his country and has been magnificent for us. One of Indias greatest warriors and this is how people now treat him. Shame on some of you! Link to comment
Ram Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Rahul Dravid must be thinking that the world is a pretty harsh place. There was once a time when he was a genuine burden in the middle order, but he has actually managed to resurrect his career in the last two years quite admirably. Since Dec 2008, he has played 15 tests, scored four 100s and six 50s in them and averaged 53.73 in the same period, which is actually higher than his career average. Not bad returns for a man on the verge of being dropped eh? But all it took was a good 2 hour innings from a debutant to ignite the debate all over again. Pujara IS an outstanding prospect, but I think fans should wait a little longer than the 90 balls he has faced in international cricket so far before rooting for him to replace a 11,000 test runs, true batting great. Just as a hypothetrical, I wonder if the cries to drop Dravid would have been as cacophonous had Pujara failed in the 2nd innings as well. If this was the Dravid of 2006-2008 and then we saw someone like Pujara come in and play the manner in which he did, then yes, there should be a credible debate as whether Dravid is now literally holding back youngsters at some serious cost to the team. But we have not come to that stage, at least not yet. But, if we just keep the facts aside for a moment and look at this debate from a philosophical point of view, a philosophy that encourages the induction of promising youngsters into the team in place ageing super-stars, that is definitely a credible point of view. But even if we were to take that stand, surely you cannot just let go of a legend, especially when he is actually performing pretty well. That is not how you deal in a professional set-up. It is disrespectful and sends the wrong message. Rather, the induction process should be gradual and done in a manner that does not hurt either the team’s chances nor the legacy of the legend in question. Maybe the Dravids could make make way for the Pujaras in lesser test series in the months ahead. Who knows, if we win the first 2 tests against NZ, we could ‘rest’ the seniors and give places to the younger batsmen who will be carrying their baton in the future. That Dravid will be replaced by the Pujaras, Vijays, Rahanes and Mukunds in the future is pretty inevitable. But that inevitability does not mean we voluntarily speed up the process. One of the refreshing aspect of the current selection panel is that they have allowed retiring greats to pick their own time and place to sing their swansong. Whether it was the retirement of Ganguly or Kumble, both the players went out on their own accord, when they were actually performing pretty decently. That is such a sharp contrast to the general practice in the subcontinent or even previous selection panels in India. I am sure they will accord the same courtesy to Dravid. He is not going anywhere, at least for now. Link to comment
dial_100 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Rahul Dravid must be thinking that the world is a pretty harsh place. There was once a time when he was a genuine burden in the middle order, but he has actually managed to resurrect his career in the last two years quite admirably. Since Dec 2008, he has played 15 tests, scored four 100s and six 50s in them and averaged 53.73 in the same period, which is actually higher than his career average. Not bad returns for a man on the verge of being dropped eh? But all it took was a good 2 hour innings from a debutant to ignite the debate all over again. Pujara IS an outstanding prospect, but I think fans should wait a little longer than the 90 balls he has faced in international cricket so far before rooting for him to replace a true batting great. Just as a hypothetrical, I wonder if the cries to drop Dravid would have been as cacophonous had Pujara failed in the 2nd innings as well. If this was the Dravid of 2006-2008 and then we saw someone like Pujara come in and play the manner in which he did, then yes, there should be a credible debate as whether Dravid is now literally holding back youngsters at some serious cost to the team. But we have not come to that stage, at least not yet. But, if we just keep the facts aside for a moment and look at this debate from a philosophical point of view, a philosophy that encourages the induction of promising youngsters into the team in place ageing super-stars, that is definitely a credible point of view. But even if we were to take that stand, surely you cannot just let go of a legend, especially when he is actually performing pretty well. That is not how you deal in a professional set-up. It is disrespectful and sends the wrong message. Rather, the induction process should be gradual and done in a manner that does not hurt either the team’s chances nor the legacy of the legend in question. Maybe the Dravids could make make way for the Pujaras in lesser test series in the months ahead. Who knows, if we win the first 2 tests against NZ, we could ‘rest’ the seniors and give places to the younger batsmen who will be carrying their baton in the future. That Dravid will be replaced by the Pujaras, Vijays, Rahanes and Mukunds in the future is pretty inevitable. But that inevitability does not mean we voluntarily speed up the process. One of the refreshing aspect of the current selection panel is that they have allowed retiring greats to pick their own time and place to sing their swansong. Whether it was the retirement of Ganguly or Kumble, both the players went out on their own accord, when they were actually performing pretty decently. That is such a sharp contrast to the general practice in the subcontinent or even previous selection panels in India. I am sure they will accord the same courtesy to Dravid. He is not going anywhere, at least for now. Excellent post. I hope selectors are matured enough these days. RD is one heck of a player. We should nothing but respect him. He wills step out of his own. He will be the happiest guy once he sees that there is a guy ready to step in his shoes. Link to comment
TheWall Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 SA tour will decide whether Pujara can replace Dravid.... Link to comment
Precambrian Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Dravid must go Legend and all, but he's way over the hill... He made viewing today's match a torture.. Here was Sehwag who's going guns at the other end and surely a man of his experience knows atleast to rotate strike? I mean 12 out of god damn 57 balls? On the first morning of a test match on a flat wicket against an attack like NZ's??? God help us if this Dravid is the one who gets to fly to SA. Link to comment
Precambrian Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 And am not going to shy away from saying this again, even if he goes on to make a ton today of 123124234234 balls.. it is only going to hurt India in the long term. He is blocking Pujara's way now, despite having made next to nothing in the last 2 years or so. Link to comment
Ranjha Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I may also be inviting some harsh comments but I agreee...Dravid is done his test career and its time he retires.. Link to comment
graphic23 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Dont be fooled by Sehwag's quick scoring on the pitch. It is slow and its difficult to time your shots. I think he was playing for lunch in the last couple of overs. Wait to see how he performs after the break. Also, next to nothing? He's had significant contributions in the series vs. NZ in NZ and vs. Lanka in India. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Viru could have played some aerial shots on last six deliveries of Ryders over, if he really wanted to go for hundred before lunch. Not that he hasn't scored 14 runs of one over before in test match. After every over both are players talk, we don't know a jack about what they are talking. Dravid is smart enough to take single and give veeru strike. There is a plan, and they would have talked about it.. Let's not get started again. Link to comment
Roshanrocks Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 i will not leave dravid's side in his low phase... :headshake: atleast till the south african tour Link to comment
fineleg Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Legend and all, but he's way over the hill... He made viewing today's match a torture.. Here was Sehwag who's going guns at the other end and surely a man of his experience knows atleast to rotate strike? I mean 12 out of god damn 57 balls? On the first morning of a test match on a flat wicket against an attack like NZ's??? God help us if this Dravid is the one who gets to fly to SA. How long have you been watching Indian cricket? Dravid is always a VERY slow batsman especially in Tests. In the recent past, he has been a bit more aggressive in scoring pattern, but usually he is a very slow batsman, and has been a very successful batsman in the past too. So, Why are you suddenly jumping into the fire based on Dravid (of all people's) Strike Rate? :haha: Link to comment
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Bublu Bhuyan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 It's about facing reality. If SRT has to go through the lean patch that he went through in 2005/06, I'd be the first one to ask him to quit. Dravid has been a legend, but one needs to face facts. He is done, and he's not going to get any better at the age of 37 odd. He needs to gracefully quit. I respect and adore him for what he has done for Indian cricket, but it's time to look forward. It's not like he has another 3-4 years to go, he's already at the edge of his career. Tell me one thing, don't you think guys like M. Vijay and Pujara can do a job better than or at least as good as Dravid at present form. Link to comment
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