f.b.m Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 This is supposed to be a contest between the number one and two teams in the world. Not just a contest but the contest. And yet this much is decided by the rotation of a 'tiny metal disc' . Apart from the fact that our bowlers are the new practitioners and heroes of non-violent submission, why do we always have to climb this extra hill? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1feEqgRZQI]YouTube - Pre-Game Coin Toss Makes Jaguars Realize Randomness Of Life[/ame]
dr_tooley Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Has a captain ever lost any more Tosses? 10 of of 11 by my count. I am fed up of fighting up hill from the get go because Dhoni can't win the toss. I know it is largely a matter of luck, but that's 10 out of 11 Dhoni has lost! I can understand the likes of Sehwag et al being hacked off if essentially every time Dhoni puts them behind the eight ball by his ineptness with. In all seriousness I would suggest that the someone else in the team now calls the Toss. Good luck to our batsman but this will be tough.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 this is like a defiance of statistical probability.
fineleg Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Why cant MSD ever send anyone else to the toss? Wont anyone in Team Mgmt suggest that? Cant he do that!??
fineleg Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 We can bid goodbye to SA series. Toss losses hurt real bad.
jf1gp_1 Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 i think you are making to big a deal out of it, yes the pitch has something for it for the bowlers but its a matter of application
fineleg Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Let us prepare designer spin pitches when SA tours us, and we'll see if the SA team will take it sportingly. We need pitches that turn from day-1 against those nincompoops when they tour us.
jf1gp_1 Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Let us prepare designer spin pitches when SA tours us' date=' and we'll see if the SA team will take it sportingly.[/quote'] where are the spinners to exploit such conditions ?
fineleg Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 ^ If we have designer spin pitches, then we can play all 3 of Ojha, Bhajji and Mishra - and on such turners they will be able to do a job against the SA batsmen (barring an exception or two) who wont be able to negotiate them well. Then we'll see what G.Smith and co will say.
someone Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 ^ If we have designer spin pitches' date=' then we can play all 3 of Ojha, Bhajji and Mishra - and on such turners they will be able to do a job against the SA batsmen (barring an exception or two) who wont be able to negotiate them well. Then we'll see what G.Smith and co will say.[/quote'] Excuses, again. The fact is if any team wants to number one, it has to adjust in any conditions. SA has done well in India and now it is India's turn to show that in SA but are failing so far.
akshayxyz Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 I hope this gets evened in WC, where the toss would matter even more.
zen Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 I am fed up of fighting up hill from the get go because Dhoni can't win the toss. I know it is largely a matter of luck, but that's 10 out of 11 Dhoni has lost! I can understand the likes of Sehwag et al being hacked off if essentially every time Dhoni puts them behind the eight ball by his ineptness with. In all seriousness I would suggest that the someone else in the team now calls the Toss. Good luck to our batsman but this will be tough. In a way it is sad that a team said to have the best batting line up is said to be so dependent on toss .... Our bowling is weak so if you wanted to win the toss so that our bowlers can be more effective then it's understandable but to feel bad because our batsmen have to bat first when they are touted to be amongst the best and the currently the best batting line up is a bit sad
Sachinism Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 In a way it is sad that a team said to have the best batting line up is said to be so dependent on toss .... Our bowling is weak so if you wanted to win the toss so that our bowlers can be more effective then it's understandable that you want to win the toss but to feel bad because our batsmen have to bat first when they are touted to be amongst the best and the currently the best batting line up is a bit sad This. I'd rather win the toss so our bowlers could have the best bowling conditions
cowboysfan Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 I hope this gets evened in WC' date=' where the toss would matter even more.[/quote'] think again,even the devil doesnt have such rotten luck.
cowboysfan Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 i was reading on bbc that dhoni has won just one toss away from home,just one.
SachDan Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Why Dhoni is more likely to spot a UFO than win a toss Today, MS Dhoni lost the toss. Yet again. He has lost 13 of his last 14 tosses in Test cricket, and surely the statistical odds of that are mind-bogglingly small. Since I’m not very good at math, I asked my friend, sports enthusiast and math wiz Mahek Vyas, to calculate the probability for losing 13 tosses out of 14. He says the magic number is 0.000854, or one in 1170. Long story short, you’re more likely to experience one of these freak incidents than lose 13 tosses out of 14: 1. You have never heard about global warming: 1 in 8 2. You will see a UFO: 1/14 3. You will get hemorrhoids: 1/25 4. You will be on a plane with a drunk pilot: 1/117 5. An airline will lose your baggage: 1/138 6. You will date a millionaire: 1/215 7. You become a New York Times best-selling author: 1/220 The last two lost tosses have resulted in South Africa inserting India in damp conditions. Centurion was lost. In Durban, India are struggling. Dhoni had earlier this year lost nine straight tosses, equalling Sunil Gavaskar’s record. He won one against New Zealand in Ahmedabad, before losing four more on the trot. Compare that with Gautam Gambhir’s record. He’s captained India five times this year in ODIs, winning each toss and each game. Sanjay Manjrekar tweeted earlier today: dont think it says anywhere that the nominated captain of the team has to go for the toss ……dhoni loses toss again The cricket rulebook doesn’t say that a captain’s presence is compulsory at the toss. Here’s what Law 1 (Players), Section 3(a) says about the toss: If a captain is not available during the period in which the toss is to take place, then the deputy must be responsible for the nomination of the players, if this has not already been done, and for the toss. In short, the vice captain can not only hand the team sheet to the umpires, he can also toss the coin in the captain’s place. Do we need another reason to send Gambhir out for the toss in Cape Town? http://in.yfittopostblog.com/2010/12/26/ms-dhoni-toss-record-durban/
cowboysfan Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 i am not sure dhoni's ego will stomach sending gambhir or somebody else for the toss but it must be done.
ch1234 Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 i think it is time we give "toss" a toss. In even-numbered match serieses (be it test or ODI or 20-20), each of the team should be considered winning the toss on equal occasions. In odd numbered serieses, the last match only should have throwing the coins up. It is not applicable, though, in multi-team tournaments. To decide the toss winners of the first match, there should be a toss, and the next should go to opposite team and third toss to the first toss-winner and to be continued in that method..
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