Sachin=GOD Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 That is because you have no leg to stand on. SRT averages in the 50's with a ton of others in the same era he played in while Bradman was in a league of his own averaging 100 while no one else crossed 60 during the era he played in. All this comparing across eras BS not withstanding Bradman was disputed while Tendulkar is bunched with a group of other greats like Lara' date= Ponting etc all good and worthy in their own way. :hmmmm2:
pensionplan Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 So I assume you are okay with folks who start watching cricket after Sachin's retirement simply ignore him when they talk about ATGs.LOL...
zen Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 what's derailed is the though process of the ..... :facepalm:
Sachinism Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Since this Tendulkar versus Richards thread has already been mauled beyond recognition from the original topic, thought I would bring up one point here. The irksome thing about Tendulkar fanatics is they just can't visualize him being the second best in anything. It's not good enough for them that Tendulkar is the most complete batsman of his times and arguably the second best overall. If someone makes a comment that Laxman has fared better in last innings chases or has pulled innings of the calibre of 281 or 96 for which Tendulkar has no match or something like Gavaskar's 221, they will not accept it or even let the other person have his opinion. They will start digging stats guru to come up with weird statistics or out and out lies to discredit other players like Tendulkar had no support in the 90s. Or if someone comments that Richards dominated bowlers like Tendulkar did not, they can't accept that Richards was the more attacking cricketer of the two - cue for them to rush to youtube and post some videos of Tendulkar's attacking innings. For them to get a good night's sleep it's simply not enough that Tendulkar is a once in a lifetime, all time legend of the game, they have to discredit each and every other batsman so no other batsman can even be better than Tendulkar in some particular aspect of batting. I think you're wrong here. The biggest issue is nimcompoops who find an area where Sachin doesn't come out top and set it as the benchmark for any great batsman just to bring Sachin down. Seen this time and time again. A whole new approach of looking at stats (i.e. RPT) is brought in to deride his greatness
mishra Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 That is because you have no leg to stand on. SRT averages in the 50's with a ton of others in the same era he played in while Bradman was in a league of his own averaging 100 while no one else crossed 60 during the era he played in. All this comparing across eras BS not withstanding Bradman was disputed No.1 in his era while Tendulkar is bunched with a group of other greats like Lara' date= Ponting etc all good and worthy in their own way in the era he played in. Pawnting???? A great???????????? :giggle: You know what, Bradman played against a combined team of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and England on his trip to India and averaged about 200........ :hysterical:
zen Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Seen this time and time again. A whole new approach of looking at stats (i.e. RPT) is brought in to deride his greatness How does RPT deride Sachin's greatness? .... I though Sachin's is already one of the greats May be yours is another case of like what someone said "For them to get a good night's sleep it's simply not enough that Tendulkar is a once in a lifetime, all time legend of the game, they have to discredit each and every other batsman so no other batsman can even be better than Tendulkar in some particular aspect of batting" As I had said. Ten ----> 15k in 180 tests Lara ----> 12k in 130 tests Diff: 3k in 50 tests .... so based on rpt, we can estimate or guesstimate that if a player of similar level got the opportunity to play 180 tests, he would have scored 15k or even more :P before someone feel the urge to state "original and eye opening" stuff like 'it is not possible to do this or that, blah blah" Note the term estimare/guesstimate
Cricket_2_Death Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 How does RPT deride Sachin's greatness? .... I though Sachin's is already one of the greats May be yours is another case of like what someone said "For them to get a good night's sleep it's simply not enough that Tendulkar is a once in a lifetime, all time legend of the game, they have to discredit each and every other batsman so no other batsman can even be better than Tendulkar in some particular aspect of batting" As I had said. Ten ----> 15k in 180 tests Lara ----> 12k in 130 tests Diff: 3k in 50 tests .... so based on rpt, we can estimate or guesstimate that if a player of similar level got the opportunity to play 180 tests, he would have scored 15k or even more :P before someone feel the urge to state "original and eye opening" stuff like 'it is not possible to do this or that, blah blah" Note the term estimare/guesstimate How can such guestimates/ifs/buts/coulda/woulda/shoulda/ nonsense even be taken seriously. I can't believe people are even bothering to argue against this guy and defend Sachin. Pakis come up with this exact mentality every time to suggest Inzamam Old Hag > SRT and people hardly bother, why is this guy even worth such an effort to argue with. It makes no sense for someone to intentionally try and degrade the most prolific batsmen from their nation unless they are trolling or being a typical Ponting/Inzamam fanboy. This is pitiful and pathetic, you come to a Indian Cricket forum to enjoy and discuss Cricket with other supporters of your team and you run into this typical Paki crap of bashing Sachin with absolute nonsense woulda/coulda/shoulda/if/but/guestimate crap.
Yoda-esque Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 ^ Bete-Laal..Yeh ICF ka safar tou ab shuru hua hai aapkaa...raah mein aise kaiii posters milenege aapko :giggle:
Sachinism Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 How does RPT deride Sachin's greatness? .... I though Sachin's is already one of the greats May be yours is another case of like what someone said "For them to get a good night's sleep it's simply not enough that Tendulkar is a once in a lifetime, all time legend of the game, they have to discredit each and every other batsman so no other batsman can even be better than Tendulkar in some particular aspect of batting" As I had said. Ten ----> 15k in 180 tests Lara ----> 12k in 130 tests Diff: 3k in 50 tests .... so based on rpt, we can estimate or guesstimate that if a player of similar level got the opportunity to play 180 tests, he would have scored 15k or even more :P before someone feel the urge to state "original and eye opening" stuff like 'it is not possible to do this or that, blah blah" Note the term estimare/guesstimate Yup I spend hours twisting stats to back my points I couldn't care what others think, Sachin for me is without doubt the best batsman I have seen and thats all that matters. I just read and post in this thread to point out fallacies. I don't know what you're bolding that point for, I responded to that already. Talk about going round in circles
Cricket_2_Death Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 ^ Bete-Laal..Yeh ICF ka safar tou ab shuru hua hai aapkaa...raah mein aise kaiii posters milenege aapko :giggle: I can't understand Hindi to well, if that is directed at me can you tell me in English what it means or anyone else who can translate? Thanks
daryl1985 Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 How does RPT deride Sachin's greatness? .... I though Sachin's is already one of the greats May be yours is another case of like what someone said "For them to get a good night's sleep it's simply not enough that Tendulkar is a once in a lifetime, all time legend of the game, they have to discredit each and every other batsman so no other batsman can even be better than Tendulkar in some particular aspect of batting" As I had said. Ten ----> 15k in 180 tests Lara ----> 12k in 130 tests Diff: 3k in 50 tests .... so based on rpt, we can estimate or guesstimate that if a player of similar level got the opportunity to play 180 tests, he would have scored 15k or even more :P before someone feel the urge to state "original and eye opening" stuff like 'it is not possible to do this or that, blah blah" Note the term estimare/guesstimate To be fair, you have to consider that SRT started his test career at 16 in this instance.
zen Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 To be fair' date=' you have to consider that SRT started his test career at 16 in this instance.[/quote'] Sure, but my point is for claims like just because SRT has 15k runs, he automatically becomes the greatest. Like even Gavaskar automatically become the greatest after becoming the first man to score 10 k runs .... The point was also against developing obsession for stats
zen Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 How can such guestimates/ifs/buts/coulda/woulda/shoulda/ nonsense even be taken seriously. I can't believe people are even bothering to argue against this guy and defend Sachin. Pakis come up with this exact mentality every time to suggest Inzamam Old Hag > SRT and people hardly bother' date=' why is this guy even worth such an effort to argue with. It makes no sense for someone to intentionally try and degrade the most prolific batsmen from their nation unless they are trolling or being a typical Ponting/Inzamam fanboy. This is pitiful and pathetic, you come to a Indian Cricket forum to enjoy and discuss Cricket with other supporters of your team and you run into this typical Paki crap of bashing Sachin with absolute nonsense woulda/coulda/shoulda/if/but/guestimate crap.[/quote'] Welcome to icf .... Appears as if it will be fun to have you around .... Large number of your 19 posts have already been devoted to "inzamamisque, pointing, pakiness, etc". That's the perfect way to show your ignorance first up but looking forward to more comical stuff If you came to ICF thinking that everything that is not related to ten is greatest will be rubbished and you can write anything on other greats, you will be disappointed :P
zen Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 ^ Bete-Laal..Yeh ICF ka safar tou ab shuru hua hai aapkaa...raah mein aise kaiii posters milenege aapko :giggle: Do you have anything to add to subject or you only comment on how other posters are, what they should do, what they should post, who is trolling, fishing, etc? May be you should join the FBI :P
Cricket_2_Death Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Welcome to icf .... Appears as if it will be fun to have you around .... Large number of your 19 posts have already been devoted to "inzamamisque' date=' pointing, pakiness, etc". That's the perfect way to [b']show your ignorance first up but looking forward to more comical stuff If you came to ICF thinking that everything that is not related to ten is greatest will be rubbished and you can write anything on other greats, you will be disappointed :P You don't know anything about me, but your display thus far on this thread along with your attacks on others and even me being a new member are sad. At least I'm not using ifs/buts/coulda/guestimate nonsense in any of my posts and attacking others for pointing it out. Yet you call me ignorant? This whole charade you are running is not good, degrading your own players is not what an Indian Cricket Forum should be about. I have not even set an opinion on a single player here as yet. I can call SRT a great player, I can call Lara a great player and yes I can call Ponting a great player. Who is going to attack or argue with me for it? I didn't do anything wrong by saying these players are great, the only person spouting this hate and encouraging it is you.
Sachinism Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 You don't know anything about me' date=' but your display thus far on this thread along with your attacks on others and even me being a new member are sad. [b']At least I'm not using ifs/buts/coulda/guestimate nonsense in any of my posts and attacking others for pointing it out. Yet you call me ignorant? This whole charade you are running is not good, degrading your own players is not what an Indian Cricket Forum should be about. I have not even set an opinion on a single player here as yet. I can call SRT a great player, I can call Lara a great player and yes I can call Ponting a great player. Who is going to attack or ague with me for it? I didn't do anything wrong by saying these players are great, the only person spouting this hate and encouraging it is you. :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: rett dikra give it a rest. Even the newbies are pwning your sorry behind
Yoda-esque Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Do you have anything to add to subject or you only comment on how other posters are' date=' what they should do, what they should post, who is trolling, fishing, etc? May be you should join the FBI :P[/quote'] Please let me comment on all these frivolous things only. I possess neither the acute intellect nor the command over this language unlike some of you to explain my point clearly. Besides,One needs all kinds of people on a forum.
Yoda-esque Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I can't understand Hindi to well, if that is directed at me can you tell me in English what it means or anyone else who can translate? Thanks This is the second time in a day that I am translating something from Hindi , but nevertheless what I meant to say was that.. "Kiddo , This is only the beginning of your journey at ICF.You will meet a lot of such August posters on your way".:winky:
Cricket_2_Death Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 This is the second time in a day that I am translating something from Hindi , but nevertheless what I meant to say was that.. "Kiddo , This is only the beginning of your journey at ICF.You will meet a lot of such August posters on your way".:winky: Ah I see, thank you! Your quote sounds pretty cool, almost Confucius like. How I wish it wasn't true but I already see it unfolding. :(( Now I'm going to get ready for the match tonight. I want to Spam the match thread with India support! This is what I joined the forum for, I hope many will be there cheering every boundary and wicket we pickup! :yay:
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