Discussing Dominica test, 2011

[asterix]

Bhajji shared his work load with Yuvi in WC too but it was Yuvi who was doing major share of work :hehe:

:giggle: Yeah, UV shared the workload and became the senior partner..Pathetic situation...

[Sidhoni]

Discussing Dominica test, 2011

Raina cn not replace a full time spinner. he will remain only part timer like shewag and tendulkar.

Who is saying that he will be a full-time spinner? Remember, He's a batsman first.

[kabira]

first of all, were they going to ball 15 overs in last 45 mins of play?? I reallly doubt. Realistically only 10 to 12 overs were remaining. But I think we should have tried bit more. Should have promoted bhajji, quick 20 from him and then another quick 15-20 from Dhoni would have made it reallly interesting.

[Crookbond]

first of all, were they going to ball 15 overs in last 45 mins of play?? I reallly doubt. Realistically only 10 to 12 overs were remaining. But I think we should have tried bit more. Should have promoted bhajji, quick 20 from him and then another quick 15-20 from Dhoni would have made it reallly interesting.

Yes, we saw how quick fire he was in the first innings on a better batting pitch. 12 of 42 balls

[Midfielder]

first of all, were they going to ball 15 overs in last 45 mins of play?? I reallly doubt. Realistically only 10 to 12 overs were remaining. But I think we should have tried bit more. Should have promoted bhajji, quick 20 from him and then another quick 15-20 from Dhoni would have made it reallly interesting.

Atleast this strategy was worth trying. Think tank was brain dead.

[gaurav92]

Yes' date=' we saw how quick fire he was in the first innings on a better batting pitch. 12 of 42 balls[/quote'] But hes capable of scoring quickly :facepalm:

[CSK Fan]

Guys, stick to watching IPL and dont judge test cricket by your expectations based on T20. There is a vast difference in quality between tests and T20 on Chennai pitch.:giggle:

Yes because in the past teams like Australia have not tried and succeded in winning from such positions. And this was WI for God's sake. Cant we score at under 4 per over for half a day? And i think I have watched more test ricket than you and I know the difference between trying and failing as compared to chickening out

[Crookbond]

Yes because in the past teams like Australia have not tried and succeded in winning from such positions. And this was WI for God's sake. Cant we score at under 4 per over for half a day? And i think I have watched more test ricket than you and I know the difference between trying and failing as compared to chickening out

I am not sure if we can compare this to Australia's Adelaide Test 2006 if this is what you are hinting at. Especially, since you have watched test cricket one can easily make over the difference in that pitch and this pitch. While I agree to your point that we could have given a better try, I can't compare this to Australia. More so, because Australia was also playing in home conditions.

[Sidhoni]

Ya, I heard at the start of the series, that this might bi his last series, I hope not, should be completing 10,000. :hatsoff:

[mukul002]

Why would a series win over seas worry MSD? We are critical enough when team India do not take advantage of a winning position , or just play badly to clinch defeat from the jaws of victory . So why the glum faces when a tactical decision to ensure a series victory pays off? Had Team India batted recklessly to chase the total with everything to lose if they were not successful , would MSD been chastised for taking such a gamble ? It should be remembered that the side which went to the west indies was the Indian Second String team , and did commendably to win the series away from home without 3 or 4 of their first team players . even up to a year ago this would have been unthinkable the India could win a series away from home without som e of their star players . The biggest plus in the test series has been Praveen Kumar as he has been miserly in giving easy runs to the opposition batsmen and caused them uncertainty by his Terry Alderman style of bowling . Kumar has proved once again that he could cause the England batsmen a liot of problems in English conditions , whether he opens the bowling with Zak (provided Zak is fully fit ) or as a third seamer .

[Crookbond]

Opportunity lost for India in hard-fought series win http://es.pn/nLZv2j In the end both teams said they are happy. From the outside it appeared West Indies should be a happier unit than India who never quite stamped their authority. They won the series but was that ever in doubt against this West Indies batting line-up? This series was about testing out the youth for India but barring Suresh Raina and Ishant Sharma, not many stood up. And their decision to pull out of the chase on the final evening without really having a go at it was puzzling. And revealing. West Indies lost the ODI and the Test series but they slowly reached a point where they were fighting as a unit. The victory lap with thousands cheering them on at Dominica signalled that. The crowd recognised that the team had fought. Sometimes the way the opposition views you at the end can give a fair idea about how the battle went. Here is Duncan Fletcher on West Indies: "I think they have improved all the time. I think Ottis Gibson is doing a great job. I have come here before with England and watched them in England and watching the way they just have put it together, they are definitely moving up. I wouldn't like to be another touring side and come out here and face them if this improvement continues. The bowlers did very well. The batters slowly got better and better as the series went. I was also impressed with how they put it together off the field. How they did the warm-ups. They acted as a team and they looked like a professional unit which is good to see." Here is what Sammy said about India: "With 15 overs to go and 86 runs required, and considering the calibre of players they have like Dhoni and guys who could hit the ball, I thought they would give it a go being one up … I was surprised they shut the shop." India left you with that kind of strange taste in the mouth. West Indies would have gained a lot from this tour. The bowlers impressed and the middle order is slowly beginning to take a solid shape. Marlon Samuels played an innings of substance in the second Test, Shivnarine Chanderpaul showed he has plenty to offer as a batsman, Darren Bravo showed glimpses of his talent, and Kirk Edwards came to the fore. The main worry will be the openers. Adrian Barath showed he has problems against the seaming delivery and he still hasn't found a stable partner. Sammy led the team with passion, bowled his heart out but as long as he doesn't contribute with the bat, the questions will continue. Ian Bishop, the former West Indies fast bowler, reckons he has done enough to continue in this team as a captain for another year till West Indies unearth another leader. India's strengths are obvious. Ishant Sharma impressed and the bowlers were pretty good though by the end they were down and out physically. The batting was mixed. Virat Kohli and Suresh Raina did what the other was supposed to do. Many felt Raina would show weakness against the short ball and that Kohli would grab his opportunity. The reverse happened. M Vijay failed, S Badrinath never got a chance in the Tests after his poor performance in the ODIs, Abhinav Mukund showed grit and seized the opportunity. The series started and ended with two vital dropped catches. If Sammy had caught Rahul Dravid in the first Test who knows what might have happened there? If Dravid had caught Chanderpaul in the final Test what could have been the result? Those turning points indicate how well-fought the games were. India usually always dominated because West Indies' batting was weaker but it wasn't a cakewalk by any means. India were lifted out of the hole in the first Test by Raina and Harbhajan Singh; Dravid played the rescue act in the second innings; VVS Laxman was the saviour in the second Test. It was never easy. It was that kind of series. The pitches were tilted towards the bowlers and the groundsmen should be thanked for providing us with an enjoyable series. India won but with this West Indies batting line-up, they would see the 1-0 margin as an opportunity lost.

[rkt.india]

I do not understand why who ever is writing only talks about West Indies batting line up being weak. What kind of batting line up we had. They do not think about that just once. Three debutant Mukund, Kohli, and PK, two batsman in Vijay and Raina only 10 tests old, Mithun only 3 tests old, Munaf has not had played tests for a long time. VVS Laxman only in form player with Dravid struggling since 2007 with his batting. Many here on ICF were doubting if we can loose this series and who to blame then?

[Sehwag1830]

WTF is crapinfo talking ? Opportunity lost for India in hard-fought series win http://www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-india-2011/content/current/story/522704.html Wasn't this a second string Indian side ?:giggle:

[urbestfriend]

Absolutely agree with the article , wtf you are talking?

[goose]

Inexplicable from India. Carrying on at Dominica demanded less balls than the declaration in the 2nd test. The sight of the Windies celebrating the shaking of hands following 'no prospect of either team winning' was hard to swallow.

[Crookbond]

Dhoni's excuse to not chase a t Dominica Maahi Ve ! via Cricinfo

[ganeshran]

This thread will be merged with the one discussing the Dominica Test. :D

[CSK Fan]

I am not sure if we can compare this to Australia's Adelaide Test 2006 if this is what you are hinting at. Especially, since you have watched test cricket one can easily make over the difference in that pitch and this pitch. While I agree to your point that we could have given a better try, I can't compare this to Australia. More so, because Australia was also playing in home conditions.

All I am saying is Australia wouldnt have given up without a try. Take it as you want

[Yoda-esque]

Cannot believe that people are still discussing this...

[Crookbond]

All about chases Nice cartoon on Cricinfo http://es.pn/p1CPGx