coffee_rules Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 Yes, just like everybody could be bought. SC is not impartial all the time. Maybe TN hiired good lawyers. There is no easy answer to which side to pick. Thanks to good rains in the last few years, TN wants KRS to hold more water. Only when mettur dam water level goes down all hell will break lose.
The Outsider Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 India did not heed to the dangers of building big dams and got a lot of jingoistic support from trying to ape what western countries stopped doing decades back recognizing the dangers. Wait till the Narmada Dam fiasco happens to unfold in front of us.
Mariyam Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuX5LTG4qfo&feature=topvideos_music]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuX5LTG4qfo&feature=topvideos_music[/ame]
ViruRulez Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Calling all southies - What is this Mullaperiyar Dam conflict and why is not being resolved amicably? Whenever I go to any news site I see this Mullaperiyar Dam issue mentioned frequently. I am still not sure why are the two states not agreeing and reaching an amicable solution. From what I can understand, it is being said that if there is a big or medium-big earthquake this might break the dam and kills lakhs of people. Instead, Kerala is proposing a new Dam to be built after breaking the archaic dam so that the lives of Indians belonging to the state of Kerala can be saved. I do not see why is it a big issue whereas it should have been easily resolved by replacing the archaic dam with the new one for everyone's safety especially in an earthquake prone area as it is mentioned. FFS in other states opposition parties and people are not even willing allow the govt. to complete half-constructed dams (eg. the mega dam at Assam-Arunachal border) which would have resolved electricity problem for a North east, East and even North India. In those cases, they are not even willing to allow a smaller dam to be built. Whereas in this case, it is just that the Dam will be replaced by a new one which would be more robust and safe. So, WTF is the problem and why are the two states fighting instead working on building the dam. The other day I read Tamil Nadu govt. even banning a movie made on the dam issue. WTF is going on. This sounds terrible especially in two states with high rate of literacy and well enough development compared to northie and eastie states. :blink:
Stuge Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 We all have a thread for mullaperiyar .This fight between politicians is sick .They should be drowned in periyar lake ,
ViruRulez Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Did not know that. Maybe it can be merged. But really pathetic to see people playing politics when there is possibility of death of human lives. And more importantly when a replacement and safer dam would probably built in its place.
achilles Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 No one cares about the water or the people. They are busy playing petty politics and one-upmanship games to show whose the boss. The people have NO say in this situation.
The Dark Horse Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 According to engineers, the dam is robust enough to last many hundred years. In spite of that the TN government has strengthened it. Kerala's politicians are broadcasting fake news to people through documentaries...even if the dam breaks all the water will go to the idukki dam which is 45 kms below mullai periyar in a slope.. They say none of the people will be affected since idukki has a huge storage capacity. Kerala has proposed to build a new dam, which if built none of the water can be given to TN even if they are willing to.
nikred Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Stop calling me for the issues that have nothing to do with my state. :mad:
cowboysfan Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 According to engineers' date=' the dam is robust enough to last many hundred years. In spite of that the TN government has strengthened it. Kerala's politicians are broadcasting fake news to people through documentaries...even if the dam breaks all the water will go to the idukki dam which is 45 kms below mullai periyar in a slope.. They say none of the people will be affected since idukki has a huge storage capacity. Kerala has proposed to build a new dam, which if built none of the water can be given to TN even if they are willing to.[/quote'] so you trust a 100 year old dam made of mud(surkhi to be precise) to hold up during an earthquake?
The Dark Horse Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 so you trust a 100 year old dam made of mud(surkhi to be precise) to hold up during an earthquake? kallanai, the oldest dam in india is in tamilnadu was built in 2nd century AD and is still in use...Having said that im not in a position to trust or not trust....im just typing what engineers have told Edit: its the oldest in the world wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Anicut
coffee_rules Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 India did not heed to the dangers of building big dams and got a lot of jingoistic support from trying to ape what western countries stopped doing decades back recognizing the dangers. Wait till the Narmada Dam fiasco happens to unfold in front of us. India/China have no other way to generate electricity or irrigate vast lands to feed the increasing population. Other countries can get cheap oil to fuel their coal power plants or even have vast natural resources/rivers.
Stuge Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 India did not heed to the dangers of building big dams and got a lot of jingoistic support from trying to ape what western countries stopped doing decades back recognizing the dangers. Wait till the Narmada Dam fiasco happens to unfold in front of us. what is other option ? Nuclear Plants ??
The Dark Horse Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Mullaperiyar, Idukki dams safe, experts tell panel Allaying the apprehensions of the people of Kerala and Tamil Nadu, the two technical experts of the Supreme Court appointed-Empowered Committee (EC) on Tuesday informed the Committee that the recent tremors in that region did not have any impact on the Mullaperiyar and Idukki dams and that the dams were safe. The two members — the former Secretary to the Union Ministry of Water Resources, C.D. Thatte, and retired Chief Engineer, Central Water Commission, D.K. Mehta — had inspected all the dams in and around the Mullaperiyar catchment area to ascertain their safety in the wake of the recent earthquakes. The inspection came after Kerala filed an application seeking to bring on record the recent earthquakes and pleading for an oral hearing. The Committee had asked two of its members to conduct an on-the-spot inspection and submit a report. The report was submitted to the EC's head, the former Chief Justice of India, A.S. Anand. The other members on the Committee are retired Supreme Court Judges K.T. Thomas (representing Kerala) and A.R. Lakshmanan (representing Tamil Nadu). At Tuesday's meeting, the EC considered the report and the objections raised by Kerala during the inspection of the dam. The report concluded that the tremors did not have any impact on the Mullaperiyar dam and there was no danger to its safety. The Committee took serious exception to the objection raised by Kerala that the views of the two members could not be construed as the views of the EC. It was pointed out that the EC had passed a resolution at an earlier meeting authorising the two technical members to carry out the inspection. The procedure adopted by the members could not be faulted by the Kerala government, it said. The EC also considered the reports, studies and investigations conducted by various agencies constituted by it to go into the safety of the Mullaperiyar dam. Informed sources told The Hindu that all except one agency submitted their reports and they were discussed at the meeting. The various tests and studies undertaken by the Committee are: scanning the up-steam face of the dam using remote-operated vehicle and digital camera by the Central Soil and Materials Research Station (CSMRS), Delhi; non-destructive test by the Central Water and Power Research Station (CWPRS), Pune; cable anchor stress test; study by the Geological Survey of India; bathymetric survey by the CWPRS; material testing by the CSMRS and the CWPRS; seepage study by the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC); flood study by the Central Water Commission (CWC); testing of the cores by the CWPRS/ CSMRS; in situ tests and stability check, both by the CWPRS; and checking of measuring instruments used in the dam. The panel will meet again on January 24 and 25 to consider the modalities of finalising its report to be submitted to the Supreme Court, as its term ends in February. The panel once again rejected Kerala's request for copies of reports of various agencies, stating that such a request had already been rejected. http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2772026.ece
hari504504 Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 they should build a new dam if there is even a chance that it might fail' date='you can never predict when earthquakes occur.we had an earthquake in Oklahoma which registered almost 6 on the richter even though the region is not seismically active or known for earth quakes.[/quote'] wasn';t that because of fracking by the oil companies ?
KhanSaab Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 wasn';t that because of fracking by the oil companies ? Its just a possibility. Need more research.
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