Old guy Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 but i still think he needs to prove his fitness ,form,rhythm really cant afford another guy who isnt 100 percent
bulbul Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Sree bhakts are increasing by the day like Virus
CG Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Sree bhakts are increasing by the day When a player is out of team ,no of People supporting his inclusion increases then when he comes in to the team opp happens.
MCcricket Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Sreesanth is a lost cause, all hype no substance, unless he hits his head looses his memory and wakes up there is no hope.
rkt.india Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 You mentioned in particular conditions also' date='Mcgrath and walsh were never fast they were 130-140 and there are others too,Pace+Movement is what we should be looking for.[/quote'] so what did i say. 85 mph comes between 130-140 and that is good pace with consistency and seam-swing.
rkt.india Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 lol dont talk facts dude,all people care for is speed,speed.so what if hes been crap for last 4 year.hes phaashttt.if the same(or even less terrible)performances r shown by a slower bowler,he'll be out in 3-4 games the guy averages 37.5 in tests ffs,does he really deserve a place,fit or not? dont kid sreesanth is not even fast.
Dravid_TheWall Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 i know.. he wasnt really handled well and i said that for stats.. even if u bring numbers in.. u gotta chose the least bad in out case :( sreesanth..has performed better than ishant.. like the guy who posted stats..said numbers dont lie against major oppositions sreesanth was succesful 2 times ishant none.. I did post the numbers myself many months ago, and Ishant's figures were much poorer. Yet look at his support. Sree is capable of match winning spells. Yes he isn't perfect but we don't have many 136-145k bowls who have mastery over swing. He has won praise from Donald, Kirsten and Chappell. Yadav is looking promising but we need some experience on this Aus tour.
Laaloo Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 I did post the numbers myself many months ago, and Ishant's figures were much poorer. Yet look at his support. Sree is capable of match winning spells. Yes he isn't perfect but we don't have many 136-145k bowls who have mastery over swing. He has won praise from Donald, Kirsten and Chappell. Yadav is looking promising but we need some experience on this Aus tour. Lol Sree bowling 145 KPh? HE was hovering around 128 last time I saw and didnt get past 137 in England. Stop pulling stuff out of ur ass!!
bulbul Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 one thing i agree with Dravid_The wall... Ishanth was overhyped...whenever he gets out of Test team he will get lot of support even after 4 years playing cricket i dont think he still cemented his place
deathmonger Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 i have got news that sreesanth was involved in a close accident yesterday by one of my friends (he lives in sree's neighbourhood).
BeautifulGame Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 3 test matches and who excpet zak in recent years has won us that against a top team As i said we are comparing him to likes of ishant' date='munaf,rp singh, and others who have palyed in the same time and [i']same matches they avergaed more than sreesanth.He averaged 30 till 2010 last yeasr he averages 70+ but even zak had same problem but he fixed his career sree has to do the same. In recent years Sreesanth is the worst bowler in International circuit behind Lakmal of Srl.What on earth are u about? 3 test matches? Ishant have won more than far more matches than Sreesanth for certain.ishant won the man of the series against both Aussies and West Indies.Tell me a single series Sree santh has bowled consistently inlast 4 years? And if u want to compare single match performances in a series like Sreesanth's all 3 5-wkt hauls again Ishant has done much more than Sreesanth as a bowler and he is 23 whereas Sreesanth is nearly 29 and made test debut 5 years earlier than Ishant. Sreesanth has cost us more matches with his lack of common sense in bowling than winning.Even in the SA match when he took 5 wkt haul he bowled so awfully with the new ball in 1st spell that it nearly put the match beyond us.Thankfully Zaheer abrought us back with some controlled bowling. I have nothing against Sreesanth and i am not denying he is probably the best choice for 5th seamer slot if fit for Aus tour and certainly is a better option than the likes of Irfan.But to call him someone who is some sort of match winner is laughable.Atleast Ishant has won us matches against weak opposition consistently.Sreessanth even struggled against Bangladesh. The problem with Sreesanth not only he struggles against top teams like Ishant does he even bowls awfully against even weaker teams too.Because he doesnt have the attitude or patience and more often than not he is a liability for the team unlike Ishant.
J P K Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 i have got news that sreesanth was involved in a close accident yesterday by one of my friends (he lives in sree's neighbourhood). thats bad what happened to him ? is he alright ?
BeautifulGame Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 i know.. he wasnt really handled well and i said that for stats.. even if u bring numbers in.. u gotta chose the least bad in out case :( sreesanth..has performed better than ishant.. like the guy who posted stats..said numbers dont lie against major oppositions sreesanth was succesful 2 times ishant none.. So Aussies who were the best team at that time when Ishant won man of the series arent major opposition? :facepalm: Neither Sreesanth nor Ishant has been match winners for us against major opposition in recent times.The thing is Ishant atleast has been bowling well against weaker teams whereas Sreesanth has been thrashed even by Bangladesh. Frankly Ishant too probably is in last chance saloon.If he fails against Aussies he too should be sent to domestic cricket and regain his form.Luckily he has age on his side unlike Sreesanth. But when it comes to Sreesanth and Ishant Ishant is a far better choice than Sreesanth based on their careers as well as recent form.
rkt.india Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 So Aussies who were the best team at that time when Ishant won man of the series arent major opposition? :facepalm: Neither Sreesanth nor Ishant has been match winners for us against major opposition in recent times.The thing is Ishant atleast has been bowling well against weaker teams whereas Sreesanth has been thrashed even by Bangladesh. Frankly Ishant too probably is in last chance saloon.If he fails against Aussies he too should be sent to domestic cricket and regain his form.Luckily he has age on his side unlike Sreesanth. But when it comes to Sreesanth and Ishant Ishant is a far better choice than Sreesanth based on their careers as well as recent form. Ishant is one bowler who may not take hauls but he wont leak runs from the other end if the bowler from the end is bowling well that is what you need in bowling combination. You do not get all bowlers taking 5-fers. It is bowling in a combination and as team. Ishant does not let the pressure to loose and with his bounce and pace he should be handy in Australia anyway. If he just works in his seam position in this break that would be good for him and for the team and I am sure he would be doing that as he does not have any inclination to become a single, band master, or dancer and wants to spearhead Indian fast bowling attack. Another huge difference between the two is I-Shant and I am not Shant.:two_thumbs_up:
bulbul Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Ishant is one bowler who may not take hauls but he wont leak runs from the other end if the bowler from the end is bowling well that is what you need in bowling combination. You do not get all bowlers taking 5-fers. It is bowling in a combination and as team. Ishant does not let the pressure to loose and with his bounce and pace he should be handy in Australia anyway. If he just works in his seam position in this break that would be good for him and for the team and I am sure he would be doing that as he does not have any inclination to become a single' date=' band master, or dancer and wants to spearhead Indian fast bowling attack.:two_thumbs_up:[/quote'] i guess VK will do the same job :winky:... also it will increase the overrate and reduce effect on Dhin's hands :cantstop: * i put couple of smileys for u r benefit
BeautifulGame Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Ishant is one bowler who may not take hauls but he wont leak runs from the other end if the bowler from the end is bowling well that is what you need in bowling combination. You do not get all bowlers taking 5-fers. It is bowling in a combination and as team. Ishant does not let the pressure to loose and with his bounce and pace he should be handy in Australia anyway. If he just works in his seam position in this break that would be good for him and for the team and I am sure he would be doing that as he does not have any inclination to become a single, band master, or dancer and wants to spearhead Indian fast bowling attack. Another huge difference between the two is I-Shant and I am not Shant.:two_thumbs_up: True but in Australia he should be the attacking bowler IMO.His bowling suits Aus conditions better than any of our other bowlers so he should take lot more responsibility than being a containing bowler like he did in Indian conditions.Like how Sreesanth should have taken responsibility in England series which he failed to do. Either way even if Ishant bowls line and length consistently with good pace like he did in WI series he should have a lot of success hopefully:two_thumbs_up:
rkt.india Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 i guess VK will do the same job :winky:... also it will increase the overrate and reduce effect on Dhin's hands :cantstop: * i put couple of smileys for u r benefit But I suspect if VK can produce spells like Perth, Mohali, Eden, Barbados, St. Lucia, Nagpur, Lords, Galle, etc. and Ishant can, so just chill 4D. :two_thumbs_up:
rkt.india Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 True but in Australia he should be the attacking bowler IMO.His bowling suits Aus conditions better than any of our other bowlers so he should take lot more responsibility than being a containing bowler like he did in Indian conditions.Like how Sreesanth should have taken responsibility in England series which he failed to do. Either way even if Ishant bowls line and length consistently with good pace like he did in WI series he should have a lot of success hopefully:two_thumbs_up: Yes. that is why I said. He will be attacking with some pace and will still not give freebies and keep the pressure on.
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