chainsmoker1985 Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 The speed guns are probably about 5 K faster Oh Really !! Then Zaheer Khan was bowling at only 120-121 k most of the times, right ! What stupidity ! :haha: Do you guys understand the meaning of conditions, the atmosphere, the weather, the food, the air(heavier or lighter), the pitch level, the ground level, the soil, the importance of a big series and the preparations for a big series? Bloody clowns start questioning speed guns. Answer me, can't a bowler raise his standards up by 5 ks. If Ishant was bowling at 145 in India, why can't he raise his standard to 150 k? can't you see, he was bowling continuously around 150 k in his first spell, not 1 odd ball. I don't understand you guys, you have problems when a bowler don't bowl at good speeds and you people start questioning speed guns when a bowler bowls at good speeds
kabira Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 for some reason we always see 7 to 10Ks added in pace when we tour in Australia.
peterparker Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 if ishant picks up wickets then india would nail aussie batsman..the two bowlers are keeping it tight and picking wickets regularly..and secret of test match win is to chip away with wickets regularly
saneindian Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 for some reason we always see 7 to 10Ks added in pace when we tour in Australia. On the last Aus tour or in 2003, none of our bowlers hit 140 in test matches. Top speed was 138-139 from RPS in 2008. Ishant was around 133-134 in the tests he played, Irfan around 131-132.
CG Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 What we need is more consistency from Ishant and some luck for him as well to convert all those missed edges into wickets. Even 2-3 wickets from him would help the other 3 bowlers. More so we need the inswinger back ,When he was bowling well ,some time he used to spray ball down the legside as his wrist was falling and he was losing pace so he changed his action now he has a more upright seam and ball is further back in his hand but has lost the big inswinger he had ,He was umplayable for right handers in 2008 you name it guys like kallis,ponting were struggling as the ball was cutting inside so much and some straightened but now its straight up and down stuff,I would well sacrifice 5kmph for the inswing to be back.
CG Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 The flying bail The flying bail The speed gun told us Ishant Sharma bowled seriously fast today. In his mid-afternoon spell, he kept hitting the late 140s, and even crossed 152kph once. Just how quick was it? When he bowled Michael Clarke, hitting the top of the stumps, the leg bail flew over MS Dhoni's hand. It went so far that if that had that been the ball, the batsmen might have contemplated a second.
chainsmoker1985 Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Man, even Australians are so impressed by Indian pace attack that there are 2 Indian pacers who can bowl at 150 k clicks. Everyone in Aus is saying- India has found their 3rd quality seamer. They were not even expected this in their wildest dreams, from India's pace attack. Common question in Australia atm- are these Indian bowlers
CG Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Man' date=' even Australians are so impressed by Indian pace attack that there are 2 Indian pacers who can bowl at 150 k clicks. Everyone in Aus is saying- India has found their 3rd quality seamer. They were not even expected this in their wildest dreams, from India's pace attack. Common question in Australia atm- are these Indian bowlers[/quote'] Before the series ian chappel wrote indian attack is not as good as nz attack.
punjabi_khota Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 On the last Aus tour or in 2003' date=' none of our bowlers hit 140 in test matches. Top speed was 138-139 from RPS in 2008. [b']Ishant was around 133-134 in the tests he played, Irfan around 131-132. No. He was hitting 140s at times during those spells.
MCcricket Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 if you compare Ishant' date='Umesh & Aaron to Morkel , de Langa , Steyn , Cummins , Patterson then the Indian trio look like Medium pacers[/quote'] By the way it is Pattinson and what makes u say that , do they bowl at 200 mph lol, they are as fast if not faster then DE LANGA WHO BOWLED MID 140 TO HIGH 140'S, CUMMINS THE SAME, sTEYN'S AVERAGE PACE IS 138 TO 142 K, OR MAYBE U ARE CONFUSING URSELF WITH mph and kph lol:fishing:
saneindian Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 No. He was hitting 140s at times during those spells. Might have done that for a ball or two, but his average was around 133-134. In fact bowled a plenty of deliveries at 128-129. Here, these bowlers have hardly bowled a ball below 140.
kabira Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 ^no Ishant ws younger then and he was consistenly hitting 140 and mid 140s then. Speed GUns have no uniformity...Even Siddle's speed are better than what he did in SA. Even MJ was in late 130s an early 140s in SA and I have seen him bowl late 140s in Australia. Speed Guns needs to be calibrated properly all over.
saneindian Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 ^no Ishant ws younger then and he was consistenly hitting 140 and mid 140s then. Speed GUns have no uniformity...Even Siddle's speed are better than what he did in SA. Even MJ was in late 130s an early 140s in SA and I have seen him bowl late 140s in Australia. Speed Guns needs to be calibrated properly all over. How come the same speed guns show Zak bowling 128-129 and Ashwin/Lyon bowling at 85-90? Watch Siddle bowl in SA vs how he's bowled in Australia. You will see the difference and the reason why he is hitting 150. Same with Yadav and Ishant, the ball was flying on a track that has more bounce than a normal MCG wicket.
Lord Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 How come the same speed guns show Zak bowling 128-129 and Ashwin/Lyon bowling at 85-90? Watch Siddle bowl in SA vs how he's bowled in Australia. You will see the difference and the reason why he is hitting 150. Same with Yadav and Ishant, the ball was flying on a track that has more bounce than a normal MCG wicket. the track has nothing to do with speed,its out of the hand.speed guns in Aus do tend to show higher speeds.Ishant's max in WI series was 146,now hes hit 150 couple of times already
kabira Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 >How come the same speed guns show Zak bowling 128-129 and Ashwin/Lyon bowling at 85-90? see its percentages...if you are bowling at 140, 7 ks is about 5%..so margin of error is around 5%. Lower your speed, lower is difference. Zak did bowl few around 139 and early 140s. There is definately difference..
kabira Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 >Same with Yadav and Ishant, the ball was flying on a track that has more bounce than a normal MCG wicket. Speed are not measured off the track, its off the hand.
saneindian Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 the track has nothing to do with speed' date=its out of the hand.speed guns in Aus do tend to show higher speeds.Ishant's max in WI series was 146,now hes hit 150 couple of times already I know that. But tell me where would you see a pacer putting the extra effort? On a dead track or a track where there is more life? A speed gun can't be wrong if it shows 4-5 pacers in a match consistently over 140. BTW the same speed gun also showed some deliveries of Umesh' over post tea at 134 and 137. The moment he put in the extra effort, he was up to 145-146. As for Ishant he was around 147-148 and consistently over 140 in WI as well where the track had more bounce. You could see him run harder and trying to bowl fast today, could be due to frustration at not picking too many wickets, or the way Yadav has been bowling or due to the team management giving the two pacers the license to go flat out and bowl at their quickest.
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