Nightwatchman

[Lord]

isnt it supposed to used fading light?why did Ishant come in bright sunshine. personally I've never liked nightwatchman.disturbs the batting order n momentum of the innings,n unnecessarily gives the opposition a chance o claw back

[carnish]

laxman doesnot like to bat for a few overs..so ishant had to come... had it been sehwag, he would have surely said that he doesnot need a nightwatchman... but the others in the team are susceptible when they play for breaks... just what happened with sach today as described rightly by chappely in the post show... that sach was playing for the break hence had a little too much in his mind.

[peterparker]

nightwatchman is more irriating for the opposition captain as the longer he stays the longer he wipes out the deficit and removes pressure on the remaining batsman who can set the target

[Lord]

nightwatchman is more irriating for the opposition captain as the longer he stays the longer he wipes out the deficit and removes pressure on the remaining batsman who can set the target

but isnt the probability of getting out early far more?that would help regain the bowler's confidence.n the scoring options r far lesser.so scoring rate would suffer

[Old guy]

ya but laxman in at end of play if he would ve gotten out australia would be truly back its just to sheild batsman till morning

[CoverDrive]

one reason you could say laxman should have come is that with the new ball due in 15 odd overs Ishant will slow down the scoring rate. Laxman would have got time to settle in with the old ball and also score some valuable runs.

[Lord]

once again nightwatchman screws things up as it does more often than not.hate this thing

[RockStar]

Inform batsman like laxman or even dhoni would have also helped struggling dravid..

[carnish]

Nightwatchman got 11.. lax got 2... he did his job dude... laxman struggled... even dhoni was no good... only thing expected of ishu was not letting any more casualties last night... he didnot let it happen... plus this morning even dravid went before him... so why blame him??? :idunno:

[Clarke]

but isnt the probability of getting out early far more?that would help regain the bowler's confidence.n the scoring options r far lesser.so scoring rate would suffer

When it comes to the last few overs, the utmost priority is to preserve wickets and not give away the advantage gained by grinding out the umpteen overs faced earlier. Scoring rate is thus not a concern for that very day. If you're talking about the next day, the bowling team actually faces the pressure of getting the night watchman out so that they can have a crack at the other batsmen in line. The other factor, although not crucial, is that tailenders don't have the technique to lose their wicket to certain good deliveries. Kohli may nick one to the keeper/slips but Ishant won't always be anywhere close to the ball because of his lack of technique along with his mental ability to let go a lot of deliveries, something which many batsmen would not prefer.

[Dravid_TheWall]

I don't mind nightwatchman theory. Why would you expose a good bat for 2-3 overs? It is a horrible little period and certainly one where you don't want to waste a good batsmen. My only issue is the nightwatchman should be decent enough to score and stick around the next day for a little while. Ashwin should be nightwatchman. Ishant isn't good enough. Kumble was very reliable for this role back in the day.

[daryl1985]

I don't mind nightwatchman theory. Why would you expose a good bat for 2-3 overs? It is a horrible little period and certainly one where you don't want to waste a good batsmen. My only issue is the nightwatchman should be decent enough to score and stick around the next day for a little while. Ashwin should be nightwatchman. Ishant isn't good enough. Kumble was very reliable for this role back in the day.

I don't know. You want a night watchman with decent defensive technique but not someone who is too good IMO. People like Ishant, Jimmy Anderson and Morne Morkel are ideal Nightwatchman. Mishra was a good one for India in England but like Ashwin maybe he was a bit too good to be a nightwatchman.

[Lord]

When it comes to the last few overs, the utmost priority is to preserve wickets and not give away the advantage gained by grinding out the umpteen overs faced earlier. Scoring rate is thus not a concern for that very day. If you're talking about the next day, the bowling team actually faces the pressure of getting the night watchman out so that they can have a crack at the other batsmen in line. The other factor, although not crucial, is that tailenders don't have the technique to lose their wicket to certain good deliveries. Kohli may nick one to the keeper/slips but Ishant won't always be anywhere close to the ball because of his lack of technique along with his mental ability to let go a lot of deliveries, something which many batsmen would not prefer.

that doesnt make sense.u send the best batsmen equipped tp handle any situation,not worst.if we go by your logic,we should send the batsmen only wen its flat.in the 1st hour of the day wen the ball is swinging,we should send Ishant, n not 'risk' openers as Ishant will miss more than edging,ditto for 10 mins before lunch,or if a bowler is going thru a great spell,why risk main batsman,lets send Ishant,where does it stop? these are all challenges that a batsman is equipped to handle more than nightwatchman?if he cant survive two three overs in perfect light at the end of the day,what the heck is in the team for? nightwatchman tend to distort batting orders.plus they reek of negative mindset.its saying to the opposition'we dont trust our batsman to last these overs' instead of saying'we r on top n we'll sieze the inititative'.most times nightwatchman has caused collapses like in this match.Mohali last year also comes to mind.,where we collapsed to 124-8 b4 Laxman saved us.it hurts more than it works

[rkt.india]

Don't know whey teams do not start with tailenders up on seaming tracks.

[Lord]

Don't know whey teams do not start with tailenders up on seaming tracks.

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[rkt.india]

:cantstop:

it is better to lose tailenders with the new ball rather than front line batsmen, Buchanan and Greg Chappal must have tried that idea.:giggle:

[CG]

it is better to lose tailenders with the new ball rather than front line batsmen' date=' Buchanan and Greg Chappal must have tried that idea.:giggle:[/quote'] When you come at 4-4 the pressure will make the best batsman play like tailenders.

[Lord]

it is better to lose tailenders with the new ball rather than front line batsmen' date=' Buchanan and Greg Chappal must have tried that idea.:giggle:[/quote'] yeah as the tailenders r not good enuff to edge it,they will miss.:giggle:

[Lord]

When you come at 4-4 the pressure will make the best batsman play like tailenders.

[f.b.m]

Don't know whey teams do not start with tailenders up on seaming tracks.

Thats actually not a bad idea on so called new ball wickets. The main problem is if the bowling team decide to decapitate the tailenders.