akshayxyz Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 ^ but that would not have changed his "away" average by any significant margin. He must score few triple/double hundreds in every country - before getting his due.
fineleg Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 If Viru adapts just a little bit to give some respect to bowlers on non-pattas he'll score a 50 easily. He just throws it away in over aggressive batting mode. He does the same self-destruct in ODIs too, though of late he has improved that.
asterix Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 He is a Dickhead.. As simple as that..He could've seen off Steyn and made merry on this pitch. But being a Dickhead..
Deleted_User_1 Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Is Sehwag a FTB? Me starting to wonder.....If you look at his averages on juicy tracks, it does not stand out. Show me some stats to convince otherwise. He does not employ any technique, mostly hand eye coordination and does not play the short ball that elegantly. How much can you rely on hand-eye coordination when the ball is moving in the air and off the pitch if you do not move your body? Hmmmmmmmm....
gaurav92 Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Already discussed :yawn2: http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=257398
fineleg Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Brendon McCullum does a Sehwag. Brain explosion of the day Having struck Gul for two sixes, McCullum was clearly in an aggressive mood. But just as he has done many times before, McCullum failed to temper aggression with sense and threw his wicket away. A short, wide delivery from Gul found the middle of McCullum's flashing blade, but it also flew straight into the hands of the deep-point fielder, who had been placed 10 metres from the boundary for exactly that stroke. Another start wasted.
akshayxyz Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Anyone can have a bad series, regardless of the form one carries in to it. Otherwise, no one will ever get out/in of good form!! Any one remembers the thread - "How much Sachin will score in India-NZ series" ?? - And supposedly it was on Flat tracks of subcontinent!!
zen Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Is Sehwag an outlier? In the contex of Indian TEST batting, can Sehwag be considered as an outlier, mainly for the amazing avg and SR combination India's batting since Sehwag's debut .... leaving BD and Zim out Nov 1, 2001 to Dec 1, 2011 Avg SR RPI RPT SR*Avg Sehwag 53 82 51 90 4330 Tendu 51 53 46 78 2676 Laxman 50 49 41 69 2459 Dravid 53 43 46 82 2261 Link MS Dhoni SR in tests is close to 60 but avg 37, Ganguly had a SR of 55 but again avgs 41, GG has a SR of 50 w/ an avg of 45 What's amazing about Sehwag is that he manages to do what he does opening the batting, when conditions tend to favor the quicks and the bowlers are fresher When he had some 5000 test runs, on some forum many folks were picking Vijay Merchant over him in At11 and I had said that Sehwag w/o a doubt is an AT great and he wouldn't have to wait to score 10k runs, he would be almost universally accepted as one when he reaches around 7k runs. I was wrong, he is not just an AT great but is more of an outlier in the group of batsmen of his time! He appears to be in a different league! Sehwag :hatsoff:
Old guy Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 he really wasnt good in south african conditions and in england he never proved himeself i dont remeb new zealand but in tests last time around it was gambhir who scored big not sehwag so tbh u cant compare him to tendulkar who has avg of more than 40 in every country or dravid all players are valuable in diff ways not saying sehwag isnt good over seas but u can only call him better if he performs there he always performed in australia but is unproven in swingy conditions
pensionplan Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Though VS is unique in his own way, I do not think as a total package (1st inning -2nd inning Combination, draw situations, varying conditions) he is as good as SRT, VVS and RD in Tests overall. That does not mean he is not good but others to me are better than him.
carnish Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 In the contex of Indian TEST batting, can Sehwag be considered as an outlier, mainly for the amazing avg and SR combination India's batting since Sehwag's debut .... leaving BD and Zim out Nov 1, 2001 to Dec 1, 2011 Avg SR RPI RPT SR*Avg Sehwag 53 82 51 90 4330 Tendu 51 53 46 78 2676 Laxman 50 49 41 69 2459 Dravid 53 43 46 82 2261 Link MS Dhoni SR in tests is close to 60 but avg 37, Ganguly had a SR of 55 but again avgs 41, GG has a SR of 50 w/ an avg of 45 What's amazing about Sehwag is that he manages to do what he does opening the batting, when conditions tend to favor the quicks and the bowlers are fresher When he had some 5000 test runs, on some forum many folks were picking Vijay Merchant over him in At11 and I had said that Sehwag w/o a doubt is an AT great and he wouldn't have to wait to score 10k runs, he would be almost universally accepted as one when he reaches around 7k runs. I was wrong, he is not just an AT great but is more of an outlier in the group of batsmen of his time! He appears to be in a different league! Sehwag :hatsoff: what the **** is SR*AVG :facepalm: Another legendary stat like RPT...
Magneto Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I would not pay much importance to Strike Rate in Test matches.
zen Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Oh forgot to mention, the 2 triples he has .... Again no other Indian has done that so far
zen Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I would not pay much importance to Strike Rate in Test matches. SR becomes important if you can play with that kind of avg (which is the highest despite fewer not outs) as it not only unsettles the bowlers but put pressure on the opposition which also helps other batsmen in some way ..... Getting a big score with high sr means you can give your bowlers more time to get 20 wkts
Magneto Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 But strike rates can be very misleading too. Please check out Sehwag's 2nd innings SR and averages. Had he blocked some 30 more balls in every second innings he played, India would have lost a lot less matches.
pensionplan Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 But strike rates can be very misleading too. Please check out Sehwag's 2nd innings SR and averages. Had he blocked some 30 more balls in every second innings he played' date=' India would have lost a lot less matches.[/quote']Excellent point. In fact there are matches where VS was the culprit in the 2nd innings of matches for throwing his wicket that put pressure squarely on the likes of VVS to save the day for us.
zen Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 But strike rates can be very misleading too. Please check out Sehwag's 2nd innings SR and averages. Had he blocked some 30 more balls in every second innings he played' date= India would have lost a lot less matches. Is that a joke?
pensionplan Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Is that a joke?Rett, I understand the importance of VS's contribution and the effect of his mere presense to the team. But there are games and situations where you can almost never count on him. For example in that Capetown Test last year we had to almost play out a day to save the Test which we had almost no chance to win but a loss there meant losing the series and the No.1 ranking. In that situation VS was the least reliable and as it turned out GG,RD,SRT,VVS all dug in and saved the day for us and in hindsight the series and No.1 Test ranking.
Old guy Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 strike rate is also very imp for example if it wasnt for sehwag against england we would not have been able to chase what 380-390 and in last test vs west indies if it wasnt for him we would not have even went for win... he scored run a ball 50 and others still werent able to get target also when he scores quickly bowlers confidence is hit.. and they start bowling defensively batsman can other end can get set and play long one.. more over when u score quicker u give urself more chance to bowl opposition out we dont play for draws we play for wins.. and when ur playing for draws sehwag isnt the best man.. even in that situation he may produce good innings like he did vs south africa (triple hundred) and was able to give u lead in quick time! and south africa were demoralized
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