cowboysfan Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 This team lost to even to Swann at Oval last year. We don't have luxuries of devastating Sehwag, Sachin, Dravid and Laxman to play well on rank turners. quite true but England are really pathetic against the spinning ball,its our only chance and every one of the pitches should be a rank turner.
Trichromatic Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 quite true but England are really pathetic against the spinning ball' date='its our only chance and every one of the pitches should be a rank turner.[/quote'] Rank turner will make it even probably as it will work against our batting. Even Clarke took 6 wickets on rank turner. India's best chance would be on pitches which have some help for spinner, but aren't bad for batting either.
Feed Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Even one Cook can spoil the broth... Cook practically batted the whole day — 360 minutes — to construct a brilliant 112* (251 balls, 13x4) and was ably supported by Samit Patel (82*, 145 balls, 12x4), easily the more attacking of the two, to defy the hosts on a wicket that was on the slower side. More... Even one Cook can spoil the broth... Nov 1, 2012, By Derek Abraham | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA It’s official. Kevin Pietersen is Yuvraj Singh’s bunny and there’s no denying that. The “pie-chucker”, who certainly doesn’t bowl “left-arm filth”, got the better of England’s comeback man for the sixth time in all forms of cricket. That moment of deja vu was, however, overshadowed by an excellent 153-run unbeaten stand between Alastair Cook and Samit Patel. The left-right duo, which came together at the fall of Ian Bell’s wicket (133/4), had taken England to 286/4 when stumps were drawn on Day Two of the three-day warm-up game at the Brabourne Stadium on Wednesday. Cook practically batted the whole day — 360 minutes — to construct a brilliant 112* (251 balls, 13x4) and was ably supported by Samit Patel (82*, 145 balls, 12x4), easily the more attacking of the two, to defy the hosts on a wicket that was on the slower side. Suresh Raina, who hasn’t been granted the ‘luxury’ of fielding a specialist spinner, employed himself, Yuvraj, Manoj Tiwary and Murali Vijay. The quartet bowled 38 of the day’s 87.1 overs and gave away 123 runs. England, who required a solitary delivery — the first of the day — to wrap up the India ‘A’ innings, suffered an early jolt when Nick Compton fell to an away-going delivery from Ashok Dinda in the second over. Run machines Cook and Jonathan Trott faced a few testing minutes, the latter painting an ugly portrait of himself and his body curving convex when Dinda bounced him. The ball, though, flew over the wicketkeeper’s head for a boundary. Later in the over, Trott broke the shackles with a glorious drive through extra cover. There was no looking back after that. Both batsmen played each of the seven bowlers used in the first session with relative ease. England, who took lunch at 74/1, lost Trott in the fifth over after the break when Trott was bowled during his attempt to execute a classical backfoot punch off Raina. And then arrived Pietersen, the man everyone wanted to watch. Pietersen has seldom done well in tour games, but his quickfire 23, with three fours and a six off Raina, prompted many to believe that this was the day. Expectedly, Raina summoned Yuvraj who duly did the job. KP gave his good friend the charge and was out caught and bowled. Bell came and went, but new man Patel was hell-bent to make it count. And in the company of his skipper, he did just that. India ‘A’ were left counting the runs for the remainder of the day (49 overs) and the same is likely to continue on Thursday. Iframe: Open in new window .
maniac Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 TBH Quality Pace attacks have always done well against India in Indian conditions....SA for one always does extremely well in India,Aus has always run us close.....This English team undoubtedly has the best pace attack from England to tour India in the last 25 years.Swann is an added bonus. Compare this to the bowling we had in England, so as much as I would like to see OP's prediction come true,there is a very slim chance of that happening, Lets not look too deeply at the 3-0 to Pak and 1-1 to SL...If any that might work in their favor as they have had enough time to assess their weaknesses especially in batting because as far as their bowling goes they did more than decently against Pak and SL
CG Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Such negativity in this thread :finger:.We have always been lions at home.If we get pitches like 1990s we still would whitewash anybody.Considering english weakness against spin india should win 3-0,4-0.Our batting lineup is out of form and english batting lineup is not in great form either and they have a new opeining combination and frankly broad has been struggling wiht his bowling. Before Australia series in 2008 when mendis destroyed us in srilanka .there was a headline- Old Heroes New hope Today- New Heroes New Hope
Trichromatic Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Such negativity in this thread :finger:.We have always been lions at home.If we get pitches like 1990s we still would whitewash anybody.Considering english weakness against spin india should win 3-0,4-0.Our batting lineup is out of form and english batting lineup is not in great form either and they have a new opeining combination and frankly broad has been struggling wiht his bowling. Before Australia series in 2008 when mendis destroyed us in srilanka .there was a headline- Old Heroes New hope Today- New Heroes New Hope How many teams did we whitewash in 90s? I guess only England once. India's home performance is great because we don't lose matches, we don't win every test.
Number Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 India's home performance is great because we don't lose matches, we don't win every test. It's difficult as there are so many flat pitches in India so a draw is always highly possible. Also even Saffers(since their return to cricket) haven't won more than 2 tests at home in a series. (except 2 times when they had 2 long series against WI).
Trichromatic Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 It's difficult as there are so many flat pitches in India so a draw is always highly possible. Also even Saffers(since their return to cricket) haven't won more than 2 tests at home in a series. (except 2 times when they had 2 long series against WI). I doubt anyone predicts saffers to whitewash strong teams. They aren't dominating that way yet.
India-KXIP fan Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Such negativity in this thread :finger:.We have always been lions at home.If we get pitches like 1990s we still would whitewash anybody.Considering english weakness against spin india should win 3-0,4-0.Our batting lineup is out of form and english batting lineup is not in great form either and they have a new opeining combination and frankly broad has been struggling wiht his bowling. +1 irritating as fark reading all the "won't be anymore than 1-1, our batmen out of form, but bell and cook are gonna play spinners easily" :wall:
King Tendulkar Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Yuvrajs part time spin takes 5 wickets. Our main spinners will cause havoc against the english
Crookbond Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 We got what we wanted out of the game: Anderson “It was always going to be tough after the flight and playing so soon after landing in India, but I think we got what we wanted to get out of the game,” said Anderson at the end of the drawn encounter. “The bowlers got a decent workout and we had a couple of batsmen getting decent hits, so that’s pretty much what we wanted.” “We got a couple of guys getting hundreds, a couple of fifties and the lower order chipped in with some useful runs as well and that’s what we have to do if we want to win Test matches here,” said Anderson when asked if Yuvraj, not a specialist spinner, picking five wickets was a bad sign for the English batsmen. “Spinners are going to get wickets against us, especially on day three on a turning track.” http://www.wisdenindia.com/cricket-news/wanted-game-anderson/33003
achilles Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Cook is the only rated batsman in their side anyway. KP will bat with vengeance but if you take Cook out, it is quite a rubbish batting order.
indiaregulator Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Ah sorry didnt know trott bell prior kp are rubbish players Realistically they are far more established than tiwary, pujara, dhoni and kohli as test players....
Crookbond Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Trott, Pietersen and Cook are good players. Bell could against spin - spinning in his pants?
saneindian Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 :facepalm: Why is 3rd match Haryana vs England and not BP XI vs England. Or even one of the neighboring states! Surely talented players from neighboring states will also play? :nervous: Those who have not scored a duck in last FC knock are eligible, do you have any specific name in mind?
Number Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Those who have not scored a duck in last FC knock are eligible' date=' do you have any specific name in mind?[/quote'] Will they select players from other states too for this Haryana vs England game? Like Pujara and Shikhar Dhawan are playing for Mumbai A.
indiaregulator Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Will they select players from other states too for this Haryana vs England game? Like Pujara and Shikhar Dhawan are playing for Mumbai A. But has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
SLICKR392 Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Meanwhile Broad has found a company in India to dress up his barbie dolls.
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